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If anyone who reads this board gambles on sports (not NU related) -

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I want to tread carefully here because of NU's football gambling issue two decades ago, but this is a bit of a public service annoucement.

Personally I don't gamble on sports (or anything) apart from throwing in a dollar or two in a March Madness office pool - that's about it.

But if anyone partakes - this might be of interest.


Evan Fournier seemed poised for a big night. The New York Knicks’ guard tends to torch the Boston Celtics, his previous team, and Beau Wagner, an attorney in the Chicago area, couldn’t believe that DraftKings was giving Fournier just 50-to-1 odds of being the top scorer when the Knicks faced the Celtics in January.

A serious sports bettor, Wagner, 42, wagered $1,000 on Fournier. Stars like Jayson Tatum and Julius Randle were favorites to be the game’s top scorer, but in Wagner’s eyes, Fournier’s odds were too good to pass up.

He was right: The Knicks’ sharpshooter scored a game-high 41 points.

Wagner tweeted a screenshot of his $50,000 winning ticket, and the official DraftKings account retweeted it with the caption, “BEAU KNOWS BETTING.”

A printout of the tweet hangs on Wagner’s wall. But his appreciation for DraftKings quickly gave way to resentment. A day after his Fournier bet, Wagner discovered that DraftKings wouldn’t let him bet more than $100 on an NBA game. A few days later, he tried to place another prop bet through the online sportsbook and wasn’t allowed to put down more than $3.63.

“The major problem I have is that DraftKings used my ticket to make it seem like you can win big, just like they do in their commercials,” Wagner said. “You promote my tweet and literally the next morning, I’m limited.”

DraftKings isn’t alone. Many U.S. sportsbook operators are seeking to boost profits by weeding out winning customers. Bettors who show signs of savvy are being limited faster and more aggressively than in the past, based on interviews with 20 bookmakers and accomplished bettors. As a result, Americans who are trying to make sports gambling their livelihood — or at least a profitable side hustle — are going to extreme lengths to evade limits: betting through proxies, sprinkling in deliberately dumb bets and wearing team jerseys when betting in person in an effort to pass as a “square.” Some have even returned to unregulated bookies, who don’t limit their action nearly as much.

Although some states, such as New Jersey, prohibit sportsbooks from banning rule-abiding customers simply for winning, imposing different limits on different customers is allowed nationwide.

Sophisticated bettors, or “sharps,” point out that if they aren’t allowed to bet more than pocket change, they might as well be banned. Asked about that apparent loophole, a spokesperson for New Jersey’s Division of Gaming Enforcement said, “We are not in a position to evaluate hypotheticals.”

Dan Hartman, director of Colorado’s Division of Gaming, said there is no right to be a professional sports gambler. “It’s a form of entertainment,” he said.

Several leading sportsbooks, including DraftKings, either declined or did not respond to interview requests for this story.
 
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Casinos have barred known card counters for years, right?

This issue of cherry picking seems ripe for legislation. Businesses can always claim the right to refuse service, but this could become an exception in exchange for rights to operate a sports book.
 
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The "little guy" isn't going to win here. On the basis of organization alone, the sports books know what they're doing and have govt relations people to cover everything.

Fun fact for those who aren't really into online sports betting...in Illinois you cannot bet on in-state college teams...so as a Northwestern fan I cannot bet on NU games. I assume this is to avoid anyone just looking up a player in the directory, inviting him to lunch and offering him a decent payday to shave points, although I don't know that this is an effective enough deterrent for anyone who would actually go this far.
 
Hey look gang! It's our dear old friend TheodoreAtkinson. So good to see him posting again. He is a true, long-time Wildcat fan. Why, I remember hanging out with him outside Ryan Field before many a game. I'm so glad to see this valuable endorsement from such a trusted board member. I can't wait to click on that link!!


(Note.... this is sarcasm 😑 )
 
The "little guy" isn't going to win here. On the basis of organization alone, the sports books know what they're doing and have govt relations people to cover everything.

Not so sure about that. I showed this article to a friend who likes to play a game or two (but in the 20 dollar range) and he said "What, I had no idea, **** Draft Kings" and hasn't made a bet since.

Imagine if 60 Minutes did a piece on this....
 
Not so sure about that. I showed this article to a friend who likes to play a game or two (but in the 20 dollar range) and he said "What, I had no idea, **** Draft Kings" and hasn't made a bet since.

Imagine if 60 Minutes did a piece on this....
Guys who bet online don't watch 60 Minutes.

And at the end of the day, this affects a very, very small population of people - overlaps with guys who play fantasy football "professionally." Most of us only dream of hitting a big one once or maybe twice.
 
I have no interest in sports betting because I’m usually for the team that doesn’t win. So now I’m supposed to bet against the team for which I cheer? (It’s tough not ending sentences with prepositions. 😉) I’m schizophrenic enough without finding myself cheering for both teams at the same time.
 
Hey look gang! It's our dear old friend TheodoreAtkinson. So good to see him posting again. He is a true, long-time Wildcat fan. Why, I remember hanging out with him outside Ryan Field before many a game. I'm so glad to see this valuable endorsement from such a trusted board member. I can't wait to click on that link!!


(Note.... this is sarcasm 😑 )
It's odd, I don't know how these bots or whoever is paid to post stuff like this finds this content, this was a 2-month old post by Euro that suddenly got bumped by a gamblebot, then Mr Atkinson chimed in as well. Strange.
 
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