Isiah

[hdhntr1]

Excellent points that I, along with all of the other posters do not know what one's practice habits are. What I do know is that I.Brown can penetrate and break down defenses and draw fouls which was much needed last night in a winnable game where we went for too long stretches of not being able to score a point or make a bucket. I love Vic Law and he is our most athletic player and a great defender, but he can not dribble and penetrate. His old St. Rita H.S. teammate, Charles Matthews knew that and overplayed his right hand leading to a turnover or turnovers and a dunk for UM. I.Brown was recruited because he can generate offense and if we play zone for 40 minutes as we have for the past number of games, we can mask defensive deficiencies of guarding man-to-man. But that is just my observation. But when our backup PG simply hands off the ball to a wing at the top of the key and retreats to a corner, our offense stagnates and Big 10 teams know this.

The big difference that Collin's brought to this team was D. It has not looked like that is a strength for Brown. One thing if you don't have the skills but work your butt off to improve. Something quite different if the opposite, have the attributes but blow them off. You play the first guy but the latter????? Yes you might get some points but what do you give up???

 

[ricko654321]

Excellent points that I, along with all of the other posters do not know what one's practice habits are. What I do know is that I.Brown can penetrate and break down defenses and draw fouls which was much needed last night in a winnable game where we went for too long stretches of not being able to score a point or make a bucket. I love Vic Law and he is our most athletic player and a great defender, but he can not dribble and penetrate. His old St. Rita H.S. teammate, Charles Matthews knew that and overplayed his right hand leading to a turnover or turnovers and a dunk for UM. I.Brown was recruited because he can generate offense and if we play zone for 40 minutes as we have for the past number of games, we can mask defensive deficiencies of guarding man-to-man. But that is just my observation. But when our backup PG simply hands off the ball to a wing at the top of the key and retreats to a corner, our offense stagnates and Big 10 teams know this.

I think the impression that Brown is such a great offensive player is pretty dubious. Last year he was 70-211 (33%) from the floor, and 19-67 (28%) from 3. With 39 turnovers. This year he has been better, reasonably efficient at 24-52 (46%, better than our overall team I'm sure) and 5-15 from 3 (33%). Those are decent numbers in a vacuum, but most of them have been rung up in garbage time. And dampening those stats he has a pretty gruesome 17 turnovers (against 21 assists). So for every 3 times he puts a shot up, he's turning the ball over once to the other team.

Still, that's prob at the margin a bit more efficient than our offense has been overall. His other limitations (defense and keeping others involved in the offense) notwithstanding, he's far from a savior but I think he would be helpful for a few minutes a game. Which is why I suspect the unconfirmed theory out there is true - or else that he has some lingering injury we don't see.

Either way, not sure it's worth the amount of speculation and worry that have been on it. Seems like this is about the 10th most important reason why we are underperforming this year. This is like the new version of last year's fixation on the missing scholarship from whichever that player was that everyone brought up over and over again...

 

[Max_Power]

Be honest, NU probably does not make the tournament if Brown does not bail the offense out at Rutgers last year. He hit the winning basket against Illinois this year.

I get what people are saying and if what posters are hinting at is true then he should be benched but he has, in limited minutes, hit big shots and contributed. I am disappointed because I hoped he'd average 8-10 ppg in 15 mpg this year as shock when the ball was not falling.

Regardless, this team is a massive disappointment to date and Brown is not even close to the most disappointing players, I'd go with Lindsey, BMac, then Brown.

 

[Walker Fan]

https://www.insidenu.com/2018/1/29/...ryant-mcintosh-playing-time-free-throws-stats

This article clearly makes the point with stats of where the offense goes when JA is on the court and it is not pretty. An article that properly analyzes the situation that I see in games.

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

I think the impression that Brown is such a great offensive player is pretty dubious. Last year he was 70-211 (33%) from the floor, and 19-67 (28%) from 3. With 39 turnovers. This year he has been better, reasonably efficient at 24-52 (46%, better than our overall team I'm sure) and 5-15 from 3 (33%). Those are decent numbers in a vacuum, but most of them have been rung up in garbage time. And dampening those stats he has a pretty gruesome 17 turnovers (against 21 assists). So for every 3 times he puts a shot up, he's turning the ball over once to the other team.

Still, that's prob at the margin a bit more efficient than our offense has been overall. His other limitations (defense and keeping others involved in the offense) notwithstanding, he's far from a savior but I think he would be helpful for a few minutes a game. Which is why I suspect the unconfirmed theory out there is true - or else that he has some lingering injury we don't see.

Either way, not sure it's worth the amount of speculation and worry that have been on it. Seems like this is about the 10th most important reason why we are underperforming this year. This is like the new version of last year's fixation on the missing scholarship from whichever that player was that everyone brought up over and over again...

Well said! I like Brown, but he is a liability! We need a four star recruit to back up Ash for a year! Ash has shown he can run our offense!