At each of his FBS stops, Leipold has relied HEAVILY on taking talented transfers with shaky transcripts. Guys who were high major studs with transcripts that kept them from being able to enroll at the schools they’d originally committed to, etc. He’s a good coach, but he needs the right academic environment to succeed. No chance he makes it in the Big Ten, especially at Northwestern
Yeah transfers is the other issue; no way any Northwestern coach can rely on mass transfers.
He won 5 national championships and one runner up finish in 7 years at Wisconsin Whitewater. What more do you want? Have you watched his teams play? I have been following his career for a while. He is a great coach and would be an obvious take over Braun. You claim he is not proven enough yet you seem convinced that Braun can sustain success after just one season as an interim head coach. I hope Braun has a great career at NU and he clearly earned the opportunity but no one should be fooled into thinking the results this season create a high degree of confidence about what will happen next year and beyond. Braun was NU’s best option given the circumstances but he has a lot left to prove.
I agree jury is still out on Braun, my only point was a guy that already has the confidence of the team and 1 successful season makes more sense to run these next 2 "nomad" seasons than most of the other choices on that list.
Yes, Wake is small. But it is NOT "Elite". Their overall admissions rate for all students (25%) is much higher than NU (7%), and their requirements for athletics are much lower than NU. Wake is a much easier job than NU: weaker conference, lower admissions standards, better administration support and more local alumni and non-alum support.
Fair but it's like the closest analogue among good coaches out there that I think could succeed here quickly.
Sure - I’m the obtuse one. And assuming you believe all the reporting - cuz folks around here only do when it’s inline with their personal positions - your statement says nothing about the various coordinators that would probably like a HC position.
Hence, getting turned down by proven coaches and hiring a coach with zero FBS experience until this season. 2+2=4
My son and I toured Wake last month. Nice school, pretty campus. Our student tour guide listed as one of their famous alums a former contestant on The Bachelor. It didn't make the impression he intended, at least among the parents.
Averaging 7 wins is a lofty goal for NU. They will have 7 win seasons, but averaging 7, good luck with that as the administration just doesn’t care all that much,
Not sure what you are trying to say in the first paragraph. Do I think all the
Oh ok, no chores thinks the thread is done and should be shut down! GTFOHThis thread is just about out of gas and should be shut down. We have our coach and we should be rooting for Braun and the 'Cats going forward. I really don't care about the relative merits of the coaches we didn't hire!
Not likely at P5 level. Maybe below but not P5 Still much he has not experienced Heck HCs at those levels quit to take Coordination positions at P5 because it is a step up.
So, you and curdog surmise that Braun wouldn’t get any offer nearly as good as NU HC one but the NU HC is such a bad job that one might classify it as a career killer. Am I putting your points together succinctly?
Not sure if you are intentionally leaving out the key piece of info or if you just have trouble with reading comprehension. The NU gig is extremely unattractive now because of the current leadership. If/when Gragg and Schill are fired, the job would be much more attractive. Add in a new stadium and dare I say the job would be desirable for many coaches. Are we clear???
I agree Braun is the best guy at this point, but not with your reasoning. If Braun fails miserably in the next two years, there will not be many fans left to fill the new stadium. Schill and Gragg have already decimated attendance by their shenanigans. Two more years of nomadic misery and I don't want to think about what our Season ticket numbers will look like. Our hope is that we will have a new AD in two years and that Braun can win a bunch of games in the new, more competitive BIG.
So, you and curdog surmise that Braun wouldn’t get any offer nearly as good as NU HC one but the NU HC is such a bad job (due to a whole bunch of reasons regularly dileanted above) such that one might classify it as a career killer. Am I putting your points together succinctly now?
The kind of person who takes this job is the guy with little to no prospects! If NU didn’t hire Braun, where is he going? Best case is as DC for a P5 program. Holy moly are you dense.
So then you have low expectations for Braun since he would not really be qualified for a B1G HC position and if he was a bright, up and comer, he wouldn’t have taken the job. Interesting.
Btw, any of the rest of you feel Bruan is best described as a guy with little to prospects a week or so ago?
He has a lot fewer prospects than anyone on the list of coaches who said no (allegedly). I really have no idea what point you are trying to make.
That’s you. Not me. And while I’m not a fan of Gagg or shill, I also think the program moved forward with the PF departure. So I find all this BS about finding a HC to be dumb. If you disagree, ok - but I get a chance to challenge to assertions.
Sure - and none of the coaches went to MSU either. Nor were they coming to NU at any point in even if PF retired with a golden watch to be the next Bears coach. Jesus Christ also will not be accepting the position.
Now you are just making stuff up. I never said it was a dead end job or a career killer. My one and only point, that I will nake for the umpteenth (and last) time m, is that no established coach would take this job in its current iteration. It is very likely that the people who would make the hiring decision will not be around long. Anyone, especially coaches, want to know who they would be working for. Ergo, coaches are telling NU no.
