Maybe it is time to put Berry on the bench.
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Needed that win! Will NEED Ty for this team to have success but it’s tough out there for him right now.
Yes, this is worth trying as we are playing 4v5 on offense & often 3v5 when Matt is not in a position to dunk. The other possibility as was said in another thread is to start KJ and see if he can handle the moment.
Ty missed an entire off-season of shooting. I hope it comes back soon.
We need to get Berry going. He has won us some games in the past with his shooting. Mullins just doesn't bring enough offensively. I like him better as a sixth man. Meanwhile, what's with Hunger? He can't finish around the rim. Nicholson is getting more minutes now that he can make some free throws ,but he needs some effective relief.
Hunger can't finish around the rim and is a real liability on defense. Looks like he just blanks out some times, and looks absolutely puzzled when his man slips behind him for a dunk.
Would like to see fitzsimmons get a few minutes instead of hunger. Hunger fouls way too much and is not bringing any offense.
It wasn’t there two years ago either. Precedent both ways and I hope it’s like last year.
But right now he needs to be benched. You can’t be 3 and D and suck at one let alone both.
Keep Berry in. He will start to hit it.
Shooters keep shooting. We need him to get back to form. Ty has a lot of rust to shake off.
I got shouted down for saying this a few games ago. He still has the green light to shoot but as a spark plug not a starter.
I don’t actually think this will happen, but worth a shot at this point.
He looks like he's still not 100% recovered to me. Seems to be a bit stiff-legged as he tries to move laterally.
Bad idea. You can see after all these years that Ty has a tendency to lose his confidence when his shot doesn’t go. When he hits a few, he usually gains the confidence and NU is way better. Without him in there you are playing 3-5 on offense. Benching him won’t light a fire on him, he isn’t that type of player. He needs the carrot not the stick right now.
I’d much rather go with the carrot, but how long would you go before you switch to the stick?
I'm in total agreement with this. Ty hasn't regained the quick jumping ability that he had, but he contributes valuable experience defensively. I trust his positioning and quick hands. Offensively the best he can do is catch and shoot at this point, and this can be streaky.
Ok. I compared him to Robbie Beran on another thread, sure sounds like the same mentality. If a guy can’t handle being benched, that’s a problem.
He spent the spring and summer rehabbing a torn meniscus. GMAFB.
Hard to say, I don’t know Ty at all. From the outside, he seems more fragile to that approach, if it was Big Matt, I would go to the stick quicker, but he has come around.
We don’t have Damian Lilliard on our pine. Who you playing and how long will it take before that player sucks?
It’s not unprecedented. He shot 29% from 3 over a whole season the year before he was injured.
He’s at 31% coming off an injury and we haven’t started conference play. He’s 1 for 12 against Dayton, Butler, and UNLV. I don’t think he’s going to shoot 57%(!) from the line for the rest of the season, but CCC has some decisions to make on his leash as the schedule will start to get a lot more challenging soon.
He’s at 31% coming off an injury and we haven’t started conference play. He’s 1 for 12 against Dayton, Butler, and UNLV. I don’t think he’s going to shoot 57%(!) from the line for the rest of the season, but CCC has some decisions to make on his leash as the schedule will start to get a lot more challenging soon.
Perhaps I'm a Collins apologist - but I'm gonna trust the dude who has coached him for 4 years and is with him at all the practices to defer on how to handle him.
As someone who used the "Collins apologist" phrase to challenge people's views a few years ago, I think thats not a thing anymore.
Although I am still completely opposed to the idea that coaches always knows what is right. They don't.
I wasn't arguing that coaches always know what is right. However, I'm willing to defer that in this case (and likely in the supermajority of cases) that Collins has more data and experience than I do to make a call on how to this particular player to get going.
By using "Collins apologist," I may have been anticipating a critique/pushback based on my previous witnessing of how this board works, which may not be present today. Point taken.
If we are going to win Big Ten games, we need Ty Berry back to what he was before the injury. CCC has always said shooters need to keep shooting. Berry hit two big second half 3s to help us hold off Montana State. If we had another 3-point marksman to replace him, okay, but KJ and Mullins have not shown that ability.
Honestly my impression is he's shooting too quickly, before he's fully set his feet and squared up to the basket. Ibsaw this problem with Audige and Langborg (his first few games only then he was aces). I think Berry is just too anxious to pull the trigger and needs to relax and let the game come to him a bit. The stroke still looks good and he's got the arc in his shots not the line drives from a couple years ago.
I've noticed this too. His passes are too slow and his shooting is too fast. Needs to get baby bear in there and make both just right.
I'm not saying Berry has the yips, but I think some shooters, when they're shooting well below they're capable of, start thinking about it too much. The best shooters don't think about it because the whole process is automatic (including the ball going on the hoop).
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