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That's a very nice article. Think of the ND game and the drop passes by Jones alone! Both the ND game and the NIU game he should have thrown for over 300 yards and another 4 tds. He's way better than the way he played last year.
+1Katatonic...just like a typical NU fan to hijack a thread about TS to bash the coaches. Sigh.
Katatonic...just like a typical NU fan to hijack a thread about TS to bash the coaches. Sigh.
Is observing that a coach -- a well-paid staff member in a competitive conference -- didn't perform his best in a key situation considered "bashing"?
Hindsight is 20:20, drones and planes didn't exist, walkie talkies were a not heard of entity, and it was still a manly art of war to charge ahead and win the battle or attrition by absorbing as many bullets as you could, rather than use a different technique!!For the life of me I can't fathom why Lee committed to Pickett's Charge, when a flanking maneuver would have saved lives and increased the chances of a Southern victory.
Is observing that a coach -- a well-paid staff member in a competitive conference -- didn't perform his best in a key situation considered "bashing"?
How does it help the program that we both love enough to spend time on this message board discussing every little detail. Would you like someone that knows a tenth of one percent as you about your job criticizing your job performance? If you make hundreds of thousands of dollars as the coordinators do, would you say, I have it coming because I make so much money? I know I wouldn't. I would be insulted by the idea that some person that doesn't know what he's talking about is judging me and doesn't even have the guts to do it without anonymity.
If Lee had listened to Longstreet we might all be saying y'all now.For the life of me I can't fathom why Lee committed to Pickett's Charge, when a flanking maneuver would have saved lives and increased the chances of a Southern victory.
I appreciate the reasonable tone with which you make this point, but I couldn't disagree with it more. Part of taking a job like a major-college coordinator is the public scrutiny you face when things don't go well. Fans have no duty to say everything is fine after two 5-7 seasons -- and I don't think Fitz would say that, either. My personal rule is not to attack a student-athlete putting his body on the line for a (valuable, but still limited) scholarship. But the coaches getting paid to put them in the right position are fair game for criticism, as long as it's not personal. And if you think your opinion doesn't have value because you're not paid to coach football, why are you here?
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In this case, our opinions differ; however, why do you even bothering saying the negative opinion publicly? What good can it accomplish? How does it help the program that we both love enough to spend time on this message board discussing every little detail. Would you like someone that knows a tenth of one percent as you about your job criticizing your job performance? If you make hundreds of thousands of dollars as the coordinators do, would you say, I have it coming because I make so much money? I know I wouldn't. I would be insulted by the idea that some person that doesn't know what he's talking about is judging me and doesn't even have the guts to do it without anonymity.
Moreover, what if a player, a parent, a recruit... read what you wrote? Is that the image of our program you want to present to people? It's one thing to vent after a game. It's another thing to bring up tired points 236 days later.
For the life of me I can't fathom why Lee committed to Pickett's Charge, when a flanking maneuver would have saved lives and increased the chances of a Southern victory.
Katatonic...just like a typical NU fan to hijack a thread about TS to bash the coaches. Sigh.
Where exactly was there coach bashing in there?
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That is an opinion. The team lost it's best returning play maker in Mark due to a transfer and had an injury to it's second best returning play maker in Jones prior to the season. It also had issues with McEvilly being out which explains why the running QB had a great day up the middle. I don't remember who else was injured during the off season and going into that game. Additionally, 2 out of the first 3 drives went 3 and out. The coaches may not have had time to get the defense adjusted before they went back in. It also didn't take until halftime to adjust. The coaches changed the look of the defense during the 2nd qtr with Rubenzer which forced him into a pass and that lead to an Campbell interception. In my mind, the coaching staff did admirably keeping the team working and started a comeback after being down 31-7. Unfortunately, we didn't have enough that day to make up for the hole that we dug. Additionally as Fitz has stated, the team had to deal with the off season of unionization and that took away from the team's preparation.
We're both reasonable people and can come to our own opinions. In this case, our opinions differ; however, why do you even bothering saying the negative opinion publicly? What good can it accomplish? How does it help the program that we both love enough to spend time on this message board discussing every little detail. Would you like someone that knows a tenth of one percent as you about your job criticizing your job performance? If you make hundreds of thousands of dollars as the coordinators do, would you say, I have it coming because I make so much money? I know I wouldn't. I would be insulted by the idea that some person that doesn't know what he's talking about is judging me and doesn't even have the guts to do it without anonymity.
Highly unlikely Trevor will be drafted. He will likely be signed after the draft as a training camp QB with a long shot to make the practice squad of some team. NFL teams need guys to throw during training camp to preserve th arms of the roster QBs, and Trevor fits the bill very well.Katatonic didn't hijack a thread! He fleshed out reasons why TS performed poorly the last two years, and yes, poor coaching was responsible for some of his perceived failure as a QB (see Michigan game, 2014). So was sporadic poor OL and WR play. That said, I still question whether he's shown enough consistency and good decision making in pressure situations to merit being drafted.
The gamble is that he was injured each of his last two years. Is it a good idea to go after someone with that injury history? Cannot even get to his decision process etc because he was always injured. UFA is a possibility and if he can stay healthy, then maybe he can show them more but hard to use a draft pick on him.Just my opinion, but any team that drafts him is taking a gamble. Granted he was injured most of his last two seasons which affected his play, the OL play was not good at times, and our WR's performed poorly, but TS often doesn't see the field, makes poor throwing decisions and lacks the instincts to move around in the pocket and avoid sacks and batted balls. When he's on, he's great, Strong arm and nice touch (see Syracuse) but he often is off with his throws and reads. He should be a free agent pick. I wish him well, though. Afterall, Kafka made the NFL after tossing 5 picks against Auburn.
I doubt it. But he will almost certainly be singed as an undrafted free agent. Low risk for the signing team, good arm to have in camp.TS blowing up...report today states he's been contacted by 11 teams over the last two days. Might sneak into 6th or 7th round.
If Trevor gets drafted, it will be in the 6th or 7th round. If he doesn't get drafted, he will get a ton of offers to sign as an UDFA and ultimately that would be the best scenario for him because he could pick the situation that best suits him. I think Trevor has the potential to be a 10 year NFL QB but the key will be finding the right situation with the right depth chart and coaching (the Bears might be a good fit). Trevor's up and down career can be attributed to many of the things that have been mentioned in this thread but ultimately the biggest problem is that he was not an ideal fit to run the spread offense that NU and a lot of college football teams run. Trevor's skill set is much better suited to the NFL game and with some development in his accuracy and decision making, I think Trevor can have a nice career as a backup NFL QB. Reminds me a little of Frank Reich from his days as the backup QB with the Bills.