Yes, this is not 1997, yet many long for those days.Can Newton, Russel Wilson, Bo Nix, Michael Penex, and many more this year. It is college football for the last 20 years.
Yes, this is not 1997, yet many long for those days.Can Newton, Russel Wilson, Bo Nix, Michael Penex, and many more this year. It is college football for the last 20 years.
For the record, I still don't lock my door.I miss the days I didn’t have to lock my front door at night too.
Probably more entertaining that the offense this fall…Hilarious. Keep repeating the same joke, I’m sure it will get funnier every time.
Probably more entertaining that the offense this fall…
I could not share your honest opinion to any greater degree. It is really unfortunate what the college game is becoming.I am absolutely thrilled we signed him and have some relief on this unresolved issue.
That being said, I will be honest: it makes me sad that we have effectively become one of those schools just booking free agents for one-year deals. I get that we're just playing the game the way it needs to be played now, and there's certainly nothing "wrong" with it, but I miss the days of watching a QB develop and see a Baz or Thorson mature over the years.
Precisely. Our QB turnover and uncertainty is a hole we dug for ourselves. (the coaching staff actually)I don’t think it’s “the way it’s played” that’s caused this run of transfers as much as it’s “No P4-level high school quarterback envisioned himself in a Bajakian-Fitz offense.”
I don’t care to run through the list of NU quarterbacks since Thorson, but we can be sure that the two most notable are the ones suing the school for hazing. Basically, none were good.
If this goes right, Lausch gets two years — when he’s really ready — starting in ‘25. Then lettuce hope that Romain or the next two recruits are ready for ‘27.
NU’s inadequacy forced us into…five years of stop gaps. Six? Seven?
I optimistically do not think NU will be looking for its quarterback in the portal 12 months from now.
In the meantime, we’ve got a kid that’s been recruited, I think, three separate times by NU. He should be *fun*!
This is not just our problem. 43 of 69 P5 schools started a transfer QB last year, which included us. It is happening again this year. I like the redistribution of QBs. We picked up two good ones in the last 5 years that gave us winning records. But yes there were the ones who did not turn out as desired. Hopefully Wright will be good for our system. If we can put together an OL, the team will be fun to watch. I do hope we develop QBs from high school going forward but we are in the same boat as the majority.Precisely. Our QB turnover and uncertainty is a hole we dug for ourselves. (the coaching staff actually)
We could never compete for the very top high school players even before NIL. Either they could not meet enrollment standards or they wanted a bigger stage to show their talent. But remember we get the same big media check that all B1G schools get regardless of our fan base. We will be seen by a wider audience than ever before. It is why we have nice things. I think NiL changes college sports but I cannot yet conclude it puts us in a bad position. How much more money do we get over Stanford and Duke or any school not in the SEC or B1G? It will make a difference in the next ten years and I think our NIL will be competitive enough. It’s a lot of hope, but my guess is we can bring in graduate transfers that could never get in our undergrad program. So experience players who can immediately start. At least that is my hope.I could not share your honest opinion to any greater degree. It is really unfortunate what the college game is becoming.
I am not quite as thrilled with the move as you appear to be. Our most recent free agents at least were proven starters. I must only conclude our NIL war chest was not up to the task in the current market. I wonder how long it will be before the fan base chides management for not paying more in free agency.
But for how long? The duration of the current TV contract? If college football embraces free agency, then what in the long run makes NU any more attractive than Stanford? Or Boisie State? Or Fresno State?We could never compete for the very top high school players even before NIL. Either they could not meet enrollment standards or they wanted a bigger stage to show their talent. But remember we get the same big media check that all B1G schools get regardless of our fan base. We will be seen by a wider audience than ever before. It is why we have nice things. I think NiL changes college sports but I cannot yet conclude it puts us in a bad position. How much more money do we get over Stanford and Duke or any school not in the SEC or B1G? It will make a difference in the next ten years and I think our NIL will be competitive enough. It’s a lot of hope, but my guess is we can bring in graduate transfers that could never get in our undergrad program. So experience players who can immediately start. At least that is my hope.
I think this is especially good if we are playing at the lake side and the winds are whipping.The QB's ability to run is a very, very good thing for NU.
Smaller stadiums are happening everywhere. It is a product of the enhanced home experience being better for the casual fan. The NFL stadiums are getting smaller too. The concept is to have a better experience for those corporations who buy the luxury boxes. Our tradition was a program with the longest losing streak and decades of bad football. I don’t long for those days.But for how long? The duration of the current TV contract? If college football embraces free agency, then what in the long run makes NU any more attractive than Stanford? Or Boisie State? Or Fresno State?
At some point our tradition gets trumped by the numbers. We will be playing in a downsized stadium built principly for musical acts while others will draw more in attendance and NIL dollars from larger alumni bases and regional fans.
I could not share your honest opinion to any greater degree. It is really unfortunate what the college game is becoming.
I am not quite as thrilled with the move as you appear to be. Our most recent free agents at least were proven starters. I must only conclude our NIL war chest was not up to the task in the current market. I wonder how long it will be before the fan base chides management for not paying more in free agency.
Because maybe Lujan and Braun know what the hell they’re doing? They happen to have won a handful of national championships between the two of them, so they’ve earned some slack in my book. Wright is better at this point than Sully.I guess I must be missing something. We exchanged one mediocre QB for another.
Hooray.
Why are we supposed to be delighted about this?
Lujan's offense runs the ball and then exploits the reaction of the defense with play action passes and shots down the field. This new QB can absolutely fly! He will greatly enhance our run game with zone read runs and veer reads. We have not had these possibilities in forever!!! Definitely keeping the backside of all defenses at home and honest. 22.1 mph speed in the open field is amazing. Go 'Cats, a new era of offense. Best of luck.Because maybe Lujan and Braun know what the hell they’re doing? They happen to have won a handful of national championships between the two of them, so they’ve earned some slack in my book. Wright is better at this point than Sully.
Thanks for pointing this out. I'll never forget the combination of Colter and Venric Mark. The speed we had on the edge was the envy of the Big 10: Michigan and OSU respected the heck out of it. With Wright and Henning on the roster among others, I'm stoked to see what the O looks like next year. And even if Wright isn't a gunslinger, it is likely he has more throwing ability than Kolter did.Lujan's offense runs the ball and then exploits the reaction of the defense with play action passes and shots down the field. This new QB can absolutely fly! He will greatly enhance our run game with zone read runs and veer reads. We have not had these possibilities in forever!!! Definitely keeping the backside of all defenses at home and honest. 22.1 mph speed in the open field is amazing. Go 'Cats, a new era of offense. Best of luck.
Henning is a really interesting name to mention. Certainly was mentioned as a do-everything type last season, but didn’t hit any home runs in the running game.Thanks for pointing this out. I'll never forget the combination of Colter and Venric Mark. The speed we had on the edge was the envy of the Big 10: Michigan and OSU respected the heck out of it. With Wright and Henning on the roster among others, I'm stoked to see what the O looks like next year. And even if Wright isn't a gunslinger, it is likely he has more throwing ability than Kolter did.
They're completely different types of players though.I guess I must be missing something. We exchanged one mediocre QB for another.
Hooray.
Why are we supposed to be delighted about this?
Oh come on now, don't be ridiculousWe will be playing in a downsized stadium built principly for musical acts
I initially thought you were referring to Jason Wright and Noah Herron, but that you butchered the spelling like TurkWright and Henning
You have gotten so used to inept offenses that haven’t innovated with the times. We all have to a certain extent. I’m not sure that Lujan is the second coming of Mike Leach but my hope is that he’s going to do some things on the offensive side of the ball that we haven’t seen at NU since Walker was running the program. College football in 2024 all but demands innovation on offense and I for one am excited to see how the Lujan experiment plays out. Give the dude a season or two.I guess I must be missing something. We exchanged one mediocre QB for another.
Hooray.
Why are we supposed to be delighted about this?
I think we’re going to see a very different offense with Lujan and Wright. The running game (both RB and QB) may be much more dynamic which will be exciting, but I hope Wright has a good enough arm for the downfield passing game that definitely helped us win games last year.You have gotten so used to inept offenses that haven’t innovated with the times. We all have to a certain extent. I’m not sure that Lujan is the second coming of Mike Leach but my hope is that he’s going to do some things on the offensive side of the ball that we haven’t seen at NU since Walker was running the program. College football in 2024 all but demands innovation on offense and I for one am excited to see how the Lujan experiment plays out. Give the dude a season or two.
Yeah guy, that’s why I said mostly. Let’s name championship QBs who didn’t transfer (JJ, Bennet, Tua, Trevor).I’ll let Joe Burrow know
There are a ton of top qbs from elite teams that were transfers. Penix, Ewers, Fields to name a few. Elsewhere in this thread, someone pointed out that a majority of p4 teams had transfer QBs (including NU)Yeah guy, that’s why I said mostly. Let’s name championship QBs who didn’t transfer (JJ, Bennet, Tua, Trevor).
Yeah, I made a point that if you look at the rosters of the teams that make the playoffs regularly (ga, bama, osu Clemson etc) their rosters are largely players they recruited out of high school. They use the portal to fill in gaps (including QB). Some doofus mentioned Burrow to refute the point. I’ll chalk it up to poor reading comprehension.There are a ton of top qbs from elite teams that were transfers. Penix, Ewers, Fields to name a few. Elsewhere in this thread, someone pointed out that a majority of p4 teams had transfer QBs (including NU)
I disagree. Correlation is not causation. Just because the very top team in certain years had a recruited QB doesn't mean you have to in order to succeed. Until the system changes, most people will have a transfer QB. There is enough money, enough freedom and enough emphasis on the QB that it will take a while to settle in.Yeah, I made a point that if you look at the rosters of the teams that make the playoffs regularly (ga, bama, osu Clemson etc) their rosters are largely players they recruited out of high school. They use the portal to fill in gaps (including QB). Some doofus mentioned Burrow to refute the point. I’ll chalk it up to poor reading comprehension.
Georgia had 24 transfers this year. I’ll excuse Alabama because of new coach, but they had 39. Ohio State had 25. Only Clemson has managed to have the same number of transfer as us with 12. So most of those regular playoff teams have seen their rosters depleted. Isn't that one reason Saban retired?Yeah, I made a point that if you look at the rosters of the teams that make the playoffs regularly (ga, bama, osu Clemson etc) their rosters are largely players they recruited out of high school. They use the portal to fill in gaps (including QB). Some doofus mentioned Burrow to refute the point. I’ll chalk it up to poor reading comprehension.
His point is baseless, if he has a point.Georgia had 24 transfers this year. I’ll excuse Alabama because of new coach, but they had 39. Ohio State had 25. Only Clemson has managed to have the same number of transfer as us with 12. So most of those regular playoff teams have seen their rosters depleted. Isn't that one reason Saban retired?
Whatever. Since more than just me take issue with the comment, reading comprehension indicates that there are more than just me as a doofus.Yeah, I made a point that if you look at the rosters of the teams that make the playoffs regularly (ga, bama, osu Clemson etc) their rosters are largely players they recruited out of high school. They use the portal to fill in gaps (including QB). Some doofus mentioned Burrow to refute the point. I’ll chalk it up to poor reading comprehension
Saban retired because roster management is now a 24/7 365 day job and he is 72 years old.Georgia had 24 transfers this year. I’ll excuse Alabama because of new coach, but they had 39. Ohio State had 25. Only Clemson has managed to have the same number of transfer as us with 12. So most of those regular playoff teams have seen their rosters depleted. Isn't that one reason Saban retired?
I don’t get it. Your point seems to be that elite teams build their roster from high school recruits and retain them. We do the exact same thing with a much higher retention rate. So we are doing what elite teams do. If your point is that the elite teams get elite high school recruits, that has always been true. So, what are you trying to prove?Saban retired because roster management is now a 24/7 365 day job and he is 72 years old.
Again, the elite teams build their rosters thru high school recruiting and supplement through the portal. Bud Elliot does the work for me. His blue chip ratio does not include transfers and the teams at the top recruit HS at the highest level.
My point is that you can’t win at the highest level relying on transfers. That’s what i said about 10 posts ago!I don’t get it. Your point seems to be that elite teams build their roster from high school recruits and retain them. We do the exact same thing with a much higher retention rate. So we are doing what elite teams do. If your point is that the elite teams get elite high school recruits, that has always been true. So, what are you trying to prove?
Good. I look forward to Ohio State doing poorly this year.My point is that you can’t win at the highest level relying on transfers. That’s what i said about 10 posts ago!
They have 6 incoming transfers this year. Again, the vast majority of players on the elite teams were recruited out of high school, not picked from the portal. But you Keep banging on that drum.Good. I look forward to Ohio State doing poorly this year.
In five years there will be 15 concerts per year. In ten years, after NU football is relegated, there will be 25 concerts. After this, more.Oh come on now, don't be ridiculous
In five years there will be 15 concerts per year. In ten years, after NU football is relegated, there will be 25 concerts. After this, more.
The stadium is being built principly to create a venue outside City of Chicago labor requirements and tax regimes, enabling talent affiliated with NU’s sports licensing partner IMG Learfield to book their performing artist talent so that all parties generate increased revenues and profit.
It’s hardly ridiculous. It’s NU’s plan for the future.
That survey NU fielded to season ticket holders a couple of years ago (the one that sought our opinion on about five forms of elite seating arrangements) was undoubtedly a test of the concept you suggest. I’m shocked that they got results from that survey that would encourage them to proceed. NU football is too big a risk to be the main draw in that kind of plan, given the potential (or likelihood per me) that NU doesn’t have a chair in the mega conference musical chairs game. For any chance to have the numbers work, they need to pair NU tickets with other big events (i.e. major concerts) to draw significant interest from corporations and other wealthy luxury box buyers.Smaller stadiums are happening everywhere. It is a product of the enhanced home experience being better for the casual fan. The NFL stadiums are getting smaller too. The concept is to have a better experience for those corporations who buy the luxury boxes. Our tradition was a program with the longest losing streak and decades of bad football. I don’t long for those days.
What attracts people to NU is what always attracted them to NU. A good education (NIL is not going to make all D1 athletes rich fir life), a chance to play in the B1G with coast to coast media coverage, and enough alum contributing to NIl that can make us competitive. So, yes we will have the edge over non-P2 schools.
You are beating the drum. Ohio State dumped 25 players who were their high school recruits into the portal. They then added 5 players who will start in the 22 positions including the quarterback. Sure they kept most of their very best recruits but they relied heavily on the portal to shape their team. They used the portal to get rid of players they don’t want, but you just looking at those 6 players they added and say they did not rely on the portal. It is BS. They are playing games with people who they recruited out of high school.They have 6 incoming transfers this year. Again, the vast majority of players on the elite teams were recruited out of high school, not picked from the portal. But you Keep banging on that drum.