nonspecific thoughts on this wildcat team

[haywood jahblowme]

- this team currently sits as one of the most successful NU teams ever in terms wins at 19 with a chance of 20 regular season wins (as far as I can tell has never been done - or was this done in 09 and we lost in NIT round 1?). a win tomorrow and 1 postseason win and this team will have the most wins all-time
- BC won 20 twice with NIT wins 09/10,10/11
- BC won 19 once in 11/12
- BC won 17 once in 08/09

- other than that we have been so dismal minus a run in the 1930's! kudos to BC for getting the ball running and kudos for collins for being successful in building something

- as far as i can tell NU has never tallied double digit big ten wins sans 30/31 and 32/33, a win tomorrow gives us 8.
- BC won 8 in 11/12, 08/09, 03/04
- Falk won 8 in 82/83
- we won 8 once in the 60's, and a few times in the 50's

- bmac, falzon, skelly, pardon were on the floor with tre at psu. have to think those same guys with vic law will be our core 5 next year with lindsey and the incoming frosh as the main squad... the youth movement will soon be here. who will be back up PG? law? ash?


no real point to this thread other than appreciating where we are as a program in the dismal history and excited for the future. hope olah and tre get a senior day win.

 

[NJCat83588]

- this team currently sits as one of the most successful NU teams ever in terms wins at 19 with a chance of 20 regular season wins (as far as I can tell has never been done - or was this done in 09 and we lost in NIT round 1?). a win tomorrow and 1 postseason win and this team will have the most wins all-time
- BC won 20 twice with NIT wins 09/10,10/11
- BC won 19 once in 11/12
- BC won 17 once in 08/09

- other than that we have been so dismal minus a run in the 1930's! kudos to BC for getting the ball running and kudos for collins for being successful in building something

- as far as i can tell NU has never tallied double digit big ten wins sans 30/31 and 32/33, a win tomorrow gives us 8.
- BC won 8 in 11/12, 08/09, 03/04
- Falk won 8 in 82/83
- we won 8 once in the 60's, and a few times in the 50's

- bmac, falzon, skelly, pardon were on the floor with tre at psu. have to think those same guys with vic law will be our core 5 next year with lindsey and the incoming frosh as the main squad... the youth movement will soon be here. who will be back up PG? law? ash?


no real point to this thread other than appreciating where we are as a program in the dismal history and excited for the future. hope olah and tre get a senior day win.

You are correct. NU has never won 20 regular season games.

 

[shakes3858]

Law will not be back up point guard. Ash or Brown will be. Lindsey and Ash or Brown will be the SGs. Falzon and Law will split the 3. Rappolas will take a majority of the time at the 4 with Skelly getting spot duty. Pardon and Benson at the 5.

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

Sorry,but Smelly is a stud and will get lots of minutes. Ditto for Ash.

 

[Walker Fan]

Big one today as NU can win 20 regular season games for its first time in history. Hopefully, the seniors Demps and Olah can finish the regular season well.

A couple of points from Thursday night. Tre played more forcefully and aggressively and played his best game of the year. His dunk on the drive in the first half and his key basket taking the ball to the hoop in the second was critical. McIntosh's basket at the end of the half was one of the best plays of the season. I did not like his TOs at the end of the game. Also, I was impressed with Skelly's activity and effort and getting his hands on balls in the passing lanes. We need the guys to create turnovers. I hoped that Lindsey's athleticism and long wing span would also be able to do so, but it has not happened much. Hopefully, Law's athleticism will also do so. Was also impressed with Falzon and Pardon on Thursday grabbing key rebounds and Pardon had some key offensive put backs. As stated in earlier posts, the nucleus of McIntosh, Falzon, Pardon, Skelly and Law is a sound foundation. Hopefully, Lindsey continues to develop and Ash and the frosh come in to fill in the rest of the lineup.

I found it annoying that the announcers kept on referring to PSU's allegedly great recruiting class coming in. I checked afterwards and saw that they have two 4 stars coming in and 2 3-star recruits coming in. They did not mention NU's recruiting class of 4 star Rapolas I., 4 or high 3 star recruit (depending on which service you check) C Barrett Benson who had 7 Big 10 offers and the all-time leading scorer from the state of Washington Isiah Brown. Also, Law returns to play and he is a 4-star recruit. So I think NU can argue that they have 3 4-star players and a 3-star player with very high potential coming in next year to fill key and needed positions on the team while PSU has two 4-star wing or SG players who will be splitting time with #23 and #0.

Did anyone else notice that Va. Tech beat the ACC leading Miami Hurricanes in Blacksburg for the their second top 10 win of the season (beat UVA) and are 18-13 and 10-8 in the conference. Our win over them in Blacksburg looks much better.

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

Did anyone else notice that Va. Tech beat the ACC leading Miami Hurricanes in Blacksburg for the their second top 10 win of the season (beat UVA) and are 18-13 and 10-8 in the conference. Our win over them in Blacksburg looks much better.

People were definitely wrong about them being a "terrible" team. They've proven themselves a very solid ACC team. Beating them on the road was a good win.

 

[NJCat83588]

Did anyone else notice that Va. Tech beat the ACC leading Miami Hurricanes in Blacksburg for the their second top 10 win of the season (beat UVA) and are 18-13 and 10-8 in the conference. Our win over them in Blacksburg looks much better.

Yep. Buzz is doing good work in Blacksburg. NU has 2 very good wins, Wisconsin and Va Tech.

 

[olshin]

Absolutely crazy that we've played 30 games and by RPI only 3 have been surprises. And even 2 of those come with a catch ...
We beat Wisconsin early in Gard's tenure right after some major turmoil. They pulled it together big time after they played us.
We lost to Penn State in Olah's first game back.

 

[willycat]

Law will not be back up point guard. Ash or Brown will be. Lindsey and Ash or Brown will be the SGs. Falzon and Law will split the 3. Rappolas will take a majority of the time at the 4 with Skelly getting spot duty. Pardon and Benson at the 5.[/

Law will not be back up point guard. Ash or Brown will be. Lindsey and Ash or Brown will be the SGs. Falzon and Law will split the 3. Rappolas will take a majority of the time at the 4 with Skelly getting spot duty. Pardon and Benson at the 5.

Think that CC will want both Law and Falzon in the game together as much as possible. The shooting guard spot will go to Law, backed up by Lindsey. Ash is not a SG and Brown is a total un-known.

 

[pawildcat]

- this team currently sits as one of the most successful NU teams ever in terms wins at 19 with a chance of 20 regular season wins (as far as I can tell has never been done - or was this done in 09 and we lost in NIT round 1?). a win tomorrow and 1 postseason win and this team will have the most wins all-time
- BC won 20 twice with NIT wins 09/10,10/11
- BC won 19 once in 11/12
- BC won 17 once in 08/09

- other than that we have been so dismal minus a run in the 1930's! kudos to BC for getting the ball running and kudos for collins for being successful in building something

- as far as i can tell NU has never tallied double digit big ten wins sans 30/31 and 32/33, a win tomorrow gives us 8.
- BC won 8 in 11/12, 08/09, 03/04
- Falk won 8 in 82/83
- we won 8 once in the 60's, and a few times in the 50's

- bmac, falzon, skelly, pardon were on the floor with tre at psu. have to think those same guys with vic law will be our core 5 next year with lindsey and the incoming frosh as the main squad... the youth movement will soon be here. who will be back up PG? law? ash?


no real point to this thread other than appreciating where we are as a program in the dismal history and excited for the future. hope olah and tre get a senior day win.

Into the 1970s, it was relatively hard to attain these win totals as teams seldom played more than 19-24 games a year. With today's scheduling, even a relatively mediocre team can play 30 or more games in a year.

 

[NJCat83588]

Into the 1970s, it was relatively hard to attain these win totals as teams seldom played more than 19-24 games a year. With today's scheduling, even a relatively mediocre team can play 30 or more games in a year.

True. Winning percentage is a much better yardstick, and IF the Cats win today their winning percentage will be 64.5%, just 13th best in school history. The great 1930-31 team under Dutch Lonborg went 16-1 (94%). But this team will have the second best winning percentage since I've been alive (only the 1958-59 Bill Rohr team was better at 68.2%, and that team reached a high of 6th in the AP Poll). So it ain't exactly chopped liver!

 

[iubaseball]

until NU gets a real big time facility, instead of a glorified high school gym, do not look for much respect from any of the networks that covers bball. Yes NU has a nice class coming in, but look around at the rest of the big ten, and you will find that NU does not really gain any ground on anyone and other then Rutgers, may lose ground to a lot of people in the big ten, At some point collins will get frustrated with the lack of facilities, and never being able to get into the top seven or eight in the league. and I do not think it is a stretch to say that if coach K does retire in the next two years or so, coliins will be their new coach

 

[NUCat320]

until NU gets a real big time facility, instead of a glorified high school gym, do not look for much respect from any of the networks that covers bball. ... At some point collins will get frustrated with the lack of facilities, and never being able to get into the top seven or eight in the league. and I do not think it is a stretch to say that if coach K does retire in the next two years or so, coliins will be their new coach

Re: facilities
Tell that to Duke.

The practice facilities need an upgrade, but W-R has potential to be one of the best home court advantages in the conference. Cameron is a dump. W-R is "our" dump.

Capel is likely Coach K's successor. But if, five years down the road, CCC were even considered to take over a national powerhouse, suffice to say that NU fans would be very happy with what must have been accomplished.

 

[shakes3858]

Re: facilities
Tell that to Duke.

The practice facilities need an upgrade, but W-R has potential to be one of the best home court advantages in the conference. Cameron is a dump. W-R is "our" dump.

Capel is likely Coach K's successor. But if, five years down the road, CCC were even considered to take over a national powerhouse, suffice to say that NU fans would be very happy with what must have been accomplished.

Yeah, if Collins gets the Duke job it'll be after taking us to the elite 8... Twice. I'll give him a big hug and pat on the ass, thank him for what he did for NU, and wish him luck at Duke.


Also, I thought Lumpkin was graduating in my assessment above.

 

[DaCat]

As long as Collins is successful at NU, my belief is that he ain't going anywhere. Chicago is his home, and as long as he keeps getting support from the university as he has been with Morty and Phillips, there really is no reason for him to leave. I hope he believes he will someday (soon I hope) be competing for a place in the Final Four on a consistent basis at Northwestern.

 

[iubaseball]

nucat320, W/R has the potential to be one of the most advantagious places in the Big ten. Wow, tell that to the people who have toplay against MSU at the Breslin Center, or having to play IU at Assembly Hall, or the Kohl center in Madison, or Mackey Arena, or Carver Hawkeye arena, to name a few. W/R does not even compare to Cameron Indoor Stadium. NU is at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to facilities in the entire big ten, including Rutgers. Yes Rutgers is terrible, but they play in a much better place. Your administration has done nothing to make your place anything more than a pretty nice high school gym. Until you destroy your gym and build a big time arean, like almost everyone else in teh power five conferences have, NU will always be a program that struggles like crazy to even get to a top seven spot. Those are just facts

 

[julescat]

nucat320, W/R has the potential to be one of the most advantagious places in the Big ten. Wow, tell that to the people who have toplay against MSU at the Breslin Center, or having to play IU at Assembly Hall, or the Kohl center in Madison, or Mackey Arena, or Carver Hawkeye arena, to name a few. W/R does not even compare to Cameron Indoor Stadium. NU is at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to facilities in the entire big ten, including Rutgers. Yes Rutgers is terrible, but they play in a much better place. Your administration has done nothing to make your place anything more than a pretty nice high school gym. Until you destroy your gym and build a big time arean, like almost everyone else in teh power five conferences have, NU will always be a program that struggles like crazy to even get to a top seven spot. Those are just facts

You are so right. It's all about the fu^^ing gym. That's a fact.

 

[Windy City Cat Fan]

You are so right. It's all about the fu^^ing gym. That's a fact.

I'm guessing too IU just needs to redo their football stadium and they'd finally become a real football program

 

[DaCat]

nucat320, W/R has the potential to be one of the most advantagious places in the Big ten. Wow, tell that to the people who have toplay against MSU at the Breslin Center, or having to play IU at Assembly Hall, or the Kohl center in Madison, or Mackey Arena, or Carver Hawkeye arena, to name a few. W/R does not even compare to Cameron Indoor Stadium. NU is at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to facilities in the entire big ten, including Rutgers. Yes Rutgers is terrible, but they play in a much better place. Your administration has done nothing to make your place anything more than a pretty nice high school gym. Until you destroy your gym and build a big time arean, like almost everyone else in teh power five conferences have, NU will always be a program that struggles like crazy to even get to a top seven spot. Those are just facts

W-R can get rocking and be an absolute home advantage for the Cats. We've seen it before. Your point is that without a posh arena NU will never win consistently. That's bull. Let Rutgers continue being terrible in their posh arena. Also unlike football, a small student body and alumni base like that of NU does not create as big of a challenge to fill seats for basketball. Win consistently and W-R can be a bee's nest every game.

 

[willycat]

W-R can get rocking and be an absolute home advantage for the Cats. We've seen it before. Your point is that without a posh arena NU will never win consistently. That's bull. Let Rutgers continue being terrible in their posh arena. Also unlike football, a small student body and alumni base like that of NU does not create as big of a challenge to fill seats for basketball. Win consistently and W-R can be a bee's nest every game.

Now if NU can somehow get the purple seat crowd to actually come to the games or give their tickets to someone who will. Hey, maybe Chicago can annex the NU campus and build them an arena or Evanston will do it. Then again they are Evanston, so no way.

 

[Styre]

W-R can get rocking and be an absolute home advantage for the Cats. We've seen it before. Your point is that without a posh arena NU will never win consistently. That's bull.

Is it okay if I agree with all of this but still want us to knock down W-R and build a new arena?

 

[thewildcat2011]

Is it okay if I agree with all of this but still want us to knock down W-R and build a new arena?

You full well know it's not.

 

[DaCat]

I think we should relocate Deering Libary and build a new arena on Deering Meadow.