OT: Wow, what a mess at Stanford

[1830sherman]

And they don't even have an AD to clean it up. This might be just the job for Graggoyle.

from the Mercury News:

What hasn’t gone wrong for Stanford lately?

— The football program is coming off back-to-back 3-9 seasons under Taylor and faces a slew of challenges just to attain an acceptable level of mediocrity.

— The men’s basketball program, while led by a first-rate coach in Kyle Smith, hasn’t participated in the NCAA Tournament since March 2014.

— The women’s basketball program just experienced its worst season since 1987.

— The Cardinal’s new home, the ACC, is implementing a revenue distribution model that seemingly will make it more difficult for Stanford to compete in the major sports.

— The situation is no better financially, largely due to revenue woes. In the 2024 fiscal year, the Cardinal needed a $47 million subsidy from campus in order to balance their books, according to Stanford’s annual report.

— There is no athletic director, no interim athletic director and no timeline for naming a permanent athletic director.

— Meanwhile, president Jonathan Levin, who has been on the job since August, just implemented a hiring freeze and is undoubtedly preoccupied with the potential loss of hundreds of millions in federal funding.

(Regrets if this is paywalled)

 

[Sheffielder]

And they don't even have an AD to clean it up. This might be just the job for Graggoyle.

1. You answered your own question. If they don't have an AD, then no one is sticking their neck out to sort it all. As a total outsider it wouldn't surprise me to see Luck inserted into the position, given his high profile (but if I'm him, I would just say no thanks).

2. Graggoyle...first time I ever heard that. Made me laugh.

 

[FeralFelidae]

Maybe they (and Berkeley) would've been better off staying in the rebuilt Pac-12 conference.

 

[cedricmelons]

Glad we avoided Taylor as football head coach. Remember his name being mentioned on this board as a potential Fitz replacement. He's been under multiple investigations for bullying employees and NCAA infractions. I couldn't help but chuckle at this damning quote in the ESPN article below: One of the sources who spoke with ESPN on condition of anonymity said that, while Taylor is an "equal opportunity a--hole," his behavior more often targeted women.

Reports: Stanford coach bullied athletics staff

Troy Taylor remains on the job. In a statement released by Stanford, he said he had received counseling on "how I interact with others."

www.espn.com

 

[JournCat]

Maybe they (and Berkeley) would've been better off staying in the rebuilt Pac-12 conference.

College sports will be a healthier place when we reach an endgame of a football superconference (maybe with Premier League-style relegation and elevation?) and a return to regional conferences for everything else.

 

[stpaulcat]

Wondering how the federal funding freeze will affect NU? If academic programs need to be slashed, what do we expect will happen to athletic programs?

 

[TheC]

Wondering how the federal funding freeze will affect NU? If academic programs need to be slashed, what do we expect will happen to athletic programs?

Who needs academic programs? So 20th Century.

 

[WestCoastWildcat]

Stanford used to be noted for their top athletics program across the board in terms of quality and quantity. Their athletics program was a real leader. Now that they have fallen on rough times program cutbacks will happen there and with programs across the country. Dire times ahead for all universities with research freezes and cutbacks coming.

 

[FeralFelidae]

Wondering how the federal funding freeze will affect NU? If academic programs need to be slashed, what do we expect will happen to athletic programs?

NU will have to cut its ice hockey and men's lacrosse teams

 

[techtim72]

I have found the gross Federal contract amounts with select schools astonishing. Penn has $400 mil and Columbia has $100 mil in "contracts". Now I don't know whether these amounts represent annual revenue or are gross contract amounts with varying durations but still that's a chunk.

 

[EagerFan]

NU will have to cut its ice hockey and men's lacrosse teams

Won't anyone think of the players?

 

[mekCat]

I have found the gross Federal contract amounts with select schools astonishing. Penn has $400 mil and Columbia has $100 mil in "contracts". Now I don't know whether these amounts represent annual revenue or are gross contract amounts with varying durations but still that's a chunk.

Johns Hopkins is out $800 million, from USAID funding. Laying off 2000 employees. NU's over $1 billion in Grant funding is almost all federal dollars.

 

[CMcCat]

And they don't even have an AD to clean it up. This might be just the job for Graggoyle.

from the Mercury News:

What hasn’t gone wrong for Stanford lately?

— The football program is coming off back-to-back 3-9 seasons under Taylor and faces a slew of challenges just to attain an acceptable level of mediocrity.

— The men’s basketball program, while led by a first-rate coach in Kyle Smith, hasn’t participated in the NCAA Tournament since March 2014.

— The women’s basketball program just experienced its worst season since 1987.

— The Cardinal’s new home, the ACC, is implementing a revenue distribution model that seemingly will make it more difficult for Stanford to compete in the major sports.

— The situation is no better financially, largely due to revenue woes. In the 2024 fiscal year, the Cardinal needed a $47 million subsidy from campus in order to balance their books, according to Stanford’s annual report.

— There is no athletic director, no interim athletic director and no timeline for naming a permanent athletic director.

— Meanwhile, president Jonathan Levin, who has been on the job since August, just implemented a hiring freeze and is undoubtedly preoccupied with the potential loss of hundreds of millions in federal funding.

(Regrets if this is paywalled)

When I learned the NU whistleblower hailed from a Cardinal family I wondered if there would be any karma repercussions.

 

[techtim72]

Hadn't heard that number for NU. Really staggering as NU is not really strong in applied science. It doesn't have the labs that many major universities have. Johns Hopkins has the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and likely other major facilities I am unaware of. These facilities are fundamentally large US Government research facilities and their annual budgets are many multiples of millions.

I need to research how Hopkins tapped into the USAID pot. That agency was largely an operation to win hearts and minds for DOD and the intelligence community interests. Some food and medicines thrown in but not as much as thought.

PS Here's an article that will make your eyes pop. On Hopkin's Federal contracts. Turns out clinical trials are enormous business:

Johns Hopkins leads nation in research spending for 44th consecutive year

In FY22, JHU spent a record $3.4 billion—$1.6 billion more than the next highest institution on the annual list compiled by the National Science Foundation

hub.jhu.edu

 

[stpaulcat]

Y'all realize we are in deep shit, right?

 

[mekCat]

Most of NU's grant finding is in the medical school, which is where the big money is at most universities. Schools with med schools have big money, others not so much. NIH $$.

 

[T_Levine]

2024. 743 million

 

[Pasadena Bound]

Seems to me that Stanford’s pain is NU’s gain, at least in the short run. Geography will always be an issue in recruiting west coast athletes but with Stanford on its heels, NU should devote more resources to west coast recruiting. Until Stanford sorts out its problems, academically-oriented student athletes may say “no thanks” to the s-show in Palo Alto and say “I’m all in” to NU.

 

[techtim72]

I am not interested in getting into a political discussion. My observations are more general, expressing surprise at the level of Federal funding of so many major universities. The Feds are as influential if not more so than the BOTs. If the Feds were to meaningfully cut funding, there will be a big time impact to employment.

 

[WestCoastWildcat]

Johns Hopkins is out $800 million, from USAID funding. Laying off 2000 employees. NU's over $1 billion in Grant funding is almost all federal

It’s dire times for universities esp research dependent of Federal grants. We are heading towards Dark Ages. Lots of cutting edge research to be lost which will not be easy to recover. Future generations researchers will be lost too.

 

[corbi296]

It’s dire times for universities esp research dependent of Federal grants. We are heading towards Dark Ages. Lots of cutting edge research to be lost which will not be easy to recover. Future generations researchers will be lost too.

Hopefully it’s a temporary dark period.. Have to reverse course and come back to our senses in November 2027.

 

[KramerCat91]

Hadn't heard that number for NU. Really staggering as NU is not really strong in applied science. It doesn't have the labs that many major universities have. Johns Hopkins has the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and likely other major facilities I am unaware of. These facilities are fundamentally large US Government research facilities and their annual budgets are many multiples of millions.

I need to research how Hopkins tapped into the USAID pot. That agency was largely an operation to win hearts and minds for DOD and the intelligence community interests. Some food and medicines thrown in but not as much as thought.

PS Here's an article that will make your eyes pop. On Hopkin's Federal contracts. Turns out clinical trials are enormous business:

Johns Hopkins leads nation in research spending for 44th consecutive year

In FY22, JHU spent a record $3.4 billion—$1.6 billion more than the next highest institution on the annual list compiled by the National Science Foundation

hub.jhu.edu

I believe/suspect that John Hopkins does a lot of medical research in diseases that are more of an issue outside the US with USAID money.

 

[stpaulcat]

Hopefully it’s a temporary dark period.. Have to reverse course and come back to our senses in November 2027.

Are they now holding elections in the odd years?

 

[corbi296]

Are they now holding elections in the odd years?

I wish. 2028.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

I wish. 2028.

This country goes to sh*t every 4 years. Just ask 50% of the people.

 

[corbi296]

This country goes to sh*t every 4 years. Just ask 50% of the people.

The economic data says otherwise.

 

[stpaulcat]

I wish. 2028.

The death knell will sound in 2026 for he whose name shall not be spoken, or for the rest of us. Four more years of cowardice and kiss your good life and freedom good bye.

 

[hdhntr1]

Wondering how the federal funding freeze will affect NU? If academic programs need to be slashed, what do we expect will happen to athletic programs?

Nothing much as they come from different funding sources

 

[hdhntr1]

Won't anyone think of the players?

Name one (in Hockey and Men's Lacrosse)

 

[hdhntr1]

I have found the gross Federal contract amounts with select schools astonishing. Penn has $400 mil and Columbia has $100 mil in "contracts". Now I don't know whether these amounts represent annual revenue or are gross contract amounts with varying durations but still that's a chunk.

I think it is more than that. Kept hearing that Columbia had $400 million on the chopping block.

 

[hdhntr1]

Hadn't heard that number for NU. Really staggering as NU is not really strong in applied science. It doesn't have the labs that many major universities have. Johns Hopkins has the Jet Propulsion Laboratory and likely other major facilities I am unaware of. These facilities are fundamentally large US Government research facilities and their annual budgets are many multiples of millions.

I need to research how Hopkins tapped into the USAID pot. That agency was largely an operation to win hearts and minds for DOD and the intelligence community interests. Some food and medicines thrown in but not as much as thought.

PS Here's an article that will make your eyes pop. On Hopkin's Federal contracts. Turns out clinical trials are enormous business:

Johns Hopkins leads nation in research spending for 44th consecutive year

In FY22, JHU spent a record $3.4 billion—$1.6 billion more than the next highest institution on the annual list compiled by the National Science Foundation

hub.jhu.edu

I thought JPL was an offshoot of Cal Tech

 

[techtim72]

Right. Hopkins is the Applied Physics Laborarory sitting right out here in Maryland.

 

[hdhntr1]

And they don't even have an AD to clean it up. This might be just the job for Graggoyle.

from the Mercury News:

What hasn’t gone wrong for Stanford lately?

— The football program is coming off back-to-back 3-9 seasons under Taylor and faces a slew of challenges just to attain an acceptable level of mediocrity.

— The men’s basketball program, while led by a first-rate coach in Kyle Smith, hasn’t participated in the NCAA Tournament since March 2014.

— The women’s basketball program just experienced its worst season since 1987.

— The Cardinal’s new home, the ACC, is implementing a revenue distribution model that seemingly will make it more difficult for Stanford to compete in the major sports.

— The situation is no better financially, largely due to revenue woes. In the 2024 fiscal year, the Cardinal needed a $47 million subsidy from campus in order to balance their books, according to Stanford’s annual report.

— There is no athletic director, no interim athletic director and no timeline for naming a permanent athletic director.

— Meanwhile, president Jonathan Levin, who has been on the job since August, just implemented a hiring freeze and is undoubtedly preoccupied with the potential loss of hundreds of millions in federal funding.

(Regrets if this is paywalled)

What it really boils down to is all those silicon valley billionaires stopped sending them money for their athletic programs and they have to stand more on their own, Maybe harder to justify when the PAC isn't their conference anymore and even if it was it is a shadow of it's former self