My thoughts exactly. My twin girls will turn five when that happens. Maybe when they reach seven, I can see taking a trip to do those things and hit a Mens's BB game at night .Gotta love the Christmas market and ice skating rink.
Something I don't get: We'll soon have some of the priciest, splashiest facilities in all of college football (pretty great for basketball too). Unlike a lot of universities, we financed it privately. Why then are we not more competitive on the NIL front? I'm sure I'm missing an obvious point but when I look at the cost of these facilities, I don't get why we can't compete in NIL terms with (for example) a school like Indiana. Why not roll truckloads of cash in and get some one and done prospects?
And instead of cultivating the next tier of donors to support NIL, NU will be selling them luxury boxes in the concert space.Because the bulk of our football/athletic funding comes from one guy, who’s been spending his money on large capital-intensive stadiums.
And instead of cultivating the next tier of donors to support NIL, NU will be selling them luxury boxes in the concert space.
Then we'll see the return of the SEC bag-men to give their schools an extra advantage beyond what is allowed.NIL is going in-house with revenue sharing soon anyway.
Pat likes to have his name on buildings. And I get it: the building is there for decades but no one remembers who paid for our starting QB. Junior may have a different philosophy.Something I don't get: We'll soon have some of the priciest, splashiest facilities in all of college football (pretty great for basketball too). Unlike a lot of universities, we financed it privately. Why then are we not more competitive on the NIL front? I'm sure I'm missing an obvious point but when I look at the cost of these facilities, I don't get why we can't compete in NIL terms with (for example) a school like Indiana. Why not roll truckloads of cash in and get some one and done prospects?
Junior is an idiot.Pat likes to have his name on buildings. And I get it: the building is there for decades but no one remembers who paid for our starting QB. Junior may have a different philosophy.
OK I get that. On the off chance he is reading this, a suggestion: Putting great players and winning teams in those buildings will ensure more people actually see the name on the building.Pat likes to have his name on buildings. And I get it: the building is there for decades but no one remembers who paid for our starting QB. Junior may have a different philosophy.
Thanks - a second question then. As not-very-young NU alum I admit to participating in the "you'll work for us someday" chant, back in the days before we started winning. And anecdotally, our grads end up making good money, becoming captains of industry, finding fame in media and entertainment, etc. Have to wonder why - with our rich/famous alumni base we're reliant on one guy. Meanwhile, state schools where the main economy is corn farming beat us at NIL. I cast no aspersions on corn farming, but it isn't known to be lucrative.Because the bulk of our football/athletic funding comes from one guy, who’s been spending his money on large capital-intensive stadiums.
I think it’s cultural. At NU “winning” has not really been the priority for decades back to when it was much easier to do. Our NIL effort is raising money by auctioning off the detritus of our old stadium which we tore down to build a smaller - if shinier - one. So we don’t have the tradition of reaching for the stars but rather to revel in our elite excellence and athletic mediocrity.Thanks - a second question then. As not-very-young NU alum I admit to participating in the "you'll work for us someday" chant, back in the days before we started winning. And anecdotally, our grads end up making good money, becoming captains of industry, finding fame in media and entertainment, etc. Have to wonder why - with our rich/famous alumni base we're reliant on one guy. Meanwhile, state schools where the main economy is corn farming beat us at NIL. I cast no aspersions on corn farming, but it isn't known to be lucrative.
So what's the deal with us? Are we bad fans, cheaper than other alums, or both? I for one am cheap so I'm not judging - just wondering why we lag on NIL and presume we can't compete.
Thanks - a second question then. As not-very-young NU alum I admit to participating in the "you'll work for us someday" chant, back in the days before we started winning. And anecdotally, our grads end up making good money, becoming captains of industry, finding fame in media and entertainment, etc. Have to wonder why - with our rich/famous alumni base we're reliant on one guy. Meanwhile, state schools where the main economy is corn farming beat us at NIL. I cast no aspersions on corn farming, but it isn't known to be lucrative.
So what's the deal with us? Are we bad fans, cheaper than other alums, or both? I for one am cheap so I'm not judging - just wondering why we lag on NIL and presume we can't compete.
Because we lack a bunch of Buddy Garrity types.So what's the deal with us? Are we bad fans, cheaper than other alums, or both? I for one am cheap so I'm not judging - just wondering why we lag on NIL and presume we can't compete.
In addition to caring less about sports on average and a smaller alumni base than others, I suspect professional class vs. small business owner class has a lot to do with it. It’s a lot easier to throw in big bucks when it’s your own money. I don’t have data on this but big sports donors tend to be entrepreneurs versus, say, a top lawyer at Kirkland. We have a ton of alumni that fall into the latter but don’t have multi location car dealership owner fans and alumni… and we don’t have a lot of non alumni fans. And because we have fewer fans overall, there’s not a grassroots booster option for us with thousands of smaller donors.Thanks - a second question then. As not-very-young NU alum I admit to participating in the "you'll work for us someday" chant, back in the days before we started winning. And anecdotally, our grads end up making good money, becoming captains of industry, finding fame in media and entertainment, etc. Have to wonder why - with our rich/famous alumni base we're reliant on one guy. Meanwhile, state schools where the main economy is corn farming beat us at NIL. I cast no aspersions on corn farming, but it isn't known to be lucrative.
So what's the deal with us? Are we bad fans, cheaper than other alums, or both? I for one am cheap so I'm not judging - just wondering why we lag on NIL and presume we can't compete.
NIL is new, while we were raising $1.4-1.5 billion for the facilities over a 10-15 year period.Something I don't get: We'll soon have some of the priciest, splashiest facilities in all of college football (pretty great for basketball too). Unlike a lot of universities, we financed it privately. Why then are we not more competitive on the NIL front? I'm sure I'm missing an obvious point but when I look at the cost of these facilities, I don't get why we can't compete in NIL terms with (for example) a school like Indiana. Why not roll truckloads of cash in and get some one and done prospects?
NIL is new, while we were raising $1.4-1.5 billion for the facilities over a 10-15 year period.
Now that the facilities are finished, I expect us to start seeing NIL work here at NU. A big question is whether the Ryans will support it, we can't answer that now obviously.
Keep in mind also that donors are probably hesitant to trust outside 3rd parties without the blessing of NU (which can basically now be given in some manner). With NU directly supporting NIL post-2025 due to the legal settlement requirements, that will help direct donor $ alongside. All depends on the 10-15 families along with the Ryans that give big money to the school/athletics.
Just give it time, I expect us to have a decent presence in NIL once the stadium fundraising is finished.
I have to believe there is a lot of people that even though they give to the athletics program generally, don't like the idea of giving to pay athletes directly. I don't make a dent in anything with what I give, but I have questions if I will even be a supporter at all in the future once player are getting paid directly by the school. I think I would rather see college athletics go in the opposite direction where there are no scholarships, and only people that want to school there actually play for the school.Thanks - a second question then. As not-very-young NU alum I admit to participating in the "you'll work for us someday" chant, back in the days before we started winning. And anecdotally, our grads end up making good money, becoming captains of industry, finding fame in media and entertainment, etc. Have to wonder why - with our rich/famous alumni base we're reliant on one guy. Meanwhile, state schools where the main economy is corn farming beat us at NIL. I cast no aspersions on corn farming, but it isn't known to be lucrative.
So what's the deal with us? Are we bad fans, cheaper than other alums, or both? I for one am cheap so I'm not judging - just wondering why we lag on NIL and presume we can't compete.
The Genie has left the bottle. Is there a D3 team near you?I have to believe there is a lot of people that even though they give to the athletics program generally, don't like the idea of giving to pay athletes directly. I don't make a dent in anything with what I give, but I have questions if I will even be a supporter at all in the future once player are getting paid directly by the school. I think I would rather see college athletics go in the opposite direction where there are no scholarships, and only people that want to school there actually play for the school.
Then we'll see the return of the SEC bag-men to give their schools an extra advantage beyond what is allowed.
I really don’t see how you can prevent it now. NIL rulings favor the players. Everyone talks about how salary caps work in the NFL, but it does not prevent players from endorsing products or accepting money for an appearance. So teams may be capped on paying $22 million but that star QB can still make money “outside” of football. So, yes there will be “cheaters” but it just won’t be cheating.Aren't you?
I’ve heard this from several people actually and feel it myself to a degree. Bankrolling specific athletes would be essentially the minor leagues, officially. We will see where the proposed NIL legislation goes in 2025…I have to believe there is a lot of people that even though they give to the athletics program generally, don't like the idea of giving to pay athletes directly. I don't make a dent in anything with what I give, but I have questions if I will even be a supporter at all in the future once player are getting paid directly by the school. I think I would rather see college athletics go in the opposite direction where there are no scholarships, and only people that want to school there actually play for the school.
They have said, Turf.Will the new field be turf or grass?
Interesting side note, a physician in my group starred at RB for Duke and played for the Bengals. His only 2 D1 offers were Northwestern and Duke, and he chose Duke because it was grass and Dyche Stadium was turf at the time....
I would rather Bloomberg create a $1 billion nationwide scholarship program to make medical school free to students whose families made less than $80,000 attending any top 20 medical school but it is their choice. I’m sure a football program (or lack of one) was a non-factor in their donation. I’m pretty sure a lot of NU alum donate to our school based on many things other than our athletic program but then there are those who donate specifically because of our sports programs.Speaking of whale donors, Bloomberg donates $1 billion to JHU School of Medicine to make tuition free for most students (families making less than $300k).
Wonder if Bloomberg would be donating a bit differently if JHU had big time athletics?