Scottie

[IGNORE2]

FWIW, while Tre's FG% is down 5%, his assist to turnover ratio is significantly improved. He is averaging about .75 more assists per game while averaging .25 fewer turnovers. The result is an assist to turnover ratio of 2.74 this year as opposed to 1.79 last year. Rebounds and steals are up a tick, too, in addition to his scoring a point and a half more a game. Our problems extend much further than Tre's shooting and playmaking.

I stand partially corrected. And next year, I really hope nobody on this Board dare raise an argument at any point in the season that we don't know what we have in Lindsey or Ash, or they simply lack experience, should it become relevant. But that ship was sent away this year.

Those that find me annoying are really not going to like me next year if we are still missing a schollie on the team, we still have gaps in the starting rotation, we still have question marks all around the roster. And if I'm wrong, I will stand before you and acknowledge my complete ignorance and paranoia.

 

[willycat]

Irrelevant. If they had a schollie and wanted the NU education then it doesn't matter -- unless they are asked to leave. We have seen many of scholarships ride the pine and now we have one walking around campus.

So, I don't think it is a fair assumption to believe that they were not asked to move along as they did not fit the plan.

Why do you continuously bring up that a few players were "run off the team"? two of the four you mentioned transferred to differ schools and played, while one decided that if he couldn't play his chosen position, then he will not play BB at all. One young man continues to hold onto his basketball schlorship and chooses not to play basketball. If he thinks that he is treating his former teammates fairly, then I think he needs to think again. Either transfer to another program, come back and play for NU or stay at NU but find other ways to pay for his education.

 

[IGNORE2]

Why do you continuously bring up that a few players were "run off the team"? two of the four you mentioned transferred to differ schools and played, while one decided that if he couldn't play his chosen position, then he will not play BB at all. One young man continues to hold onto his basketball schlorship and chooses not to play basketball. If he thinks that he is treating his former teammates fairly, then I think he needs to think again. Either transfer to another program, come back and play for NU or stay at NU but find other ways to pay for his education.

Source for your Vasser 'facts?'

Or, alternate version, He was asked to transfer, couldn't find a program to his liking and asked to stay, was not allowed to return and is now enjoying his NU schollie. Prove me wrong.

 

[Styre]

One young man continues to hold onto his basketball schlorship and chooses not to play basketball. If he thinks that he is treating his former teammates fairly, then I think he needs to think again.

He was promised a four-year scholarship and now he has one. Asking him, as you're implying, to voluntarily give up his scholarship to a top-flight university so the team he's no longer a part of can win more basketball games is insulting to the intelligence.

But I'm not surprised you're less concerned about his academic well-being now that he's off the basketball team. You're a college sports fan, after all.

 

[Medill90]

Source for your Vasser 'facts?'

Or, alternate version, He was asked to transfer, couldn't find a program to his liking and asked to stay, was not allowed to return and is now enjoying his NU schollie. Prove me wrong.

Isn't "He said he wanted to transfer" more accurate than "he was asked to transfer"?

And, once a player indicates he will transfer why is the staff obligated to take him back?

 

[mikewebb68]

Honestly, I have never been overly impressed with Tre. I think he had a great clutch shot, scored a lot of points on way too many shots but has been a black hole with the ball and liability on D. But his points and clutch shot made it palatable. Talk to me about his FG% or assist turnover ratio compared to last year. Now he lost his shot, he is our one and out machine (really wish we had the +\- stats) and should be returned to 6th man duties at the least.

It's like football all over again with you. This season is great. So what another year with no NCAA, who cares no post season. The kids played their little hearts out so let's hand out participation trophies. The level of apathy on this board is ridiculous for 'sports' fans. I could understand the average NU student unmoved by athletics not caring about winning, but why the heck are you wasting your time following sports and a sports board? Surely you have a journal to read or comicon to attend.

Whenever you pontificate in the future about being attacked by other posters, I will be certain to replay with a link to this post. I can choose to be a sports fan of my alma mater in any way that I want' thank you very much. And that choice will never be the way you choose to be a fan. Never been to Comic Con or read a journal, but have a wonderful life, job, wife and son and love my Wildcats in a way that is most certainly not apathetic. But carry on with your nonsense belittling other posters as usual in a way that is never funny, but always bitter; must make you feel good I guess.

 

[IGNORE2]

Isn't "He said he wanted to transfer" more accurate than "he was asked to transfer"?

And, once a player indicates he will transfer why is the staff obligated to take him back?

And how many in this world have announced their resignation...after being ask for it?

 

[IGNORE2]

Whenever you pontificate in the future about being attacked by other posters, I will be certain to replay with a link to this post. I can choose to be a sports fan of my alma mater in any way that I want' thank you very much. And that choice will never be the way you choose to be a fan. Never been to Comic Con or read a journal, but have a wonderful life, job, wife and son and love my Wildcats in a way that is most certainly not apathetic. But carry on with your nonsense belittling other posters as usual in a way that is never funny, but always bitter; must make you feel good I guess.

Ok Mike - you have always been the picture of hospitality to me. You are right, I'm sorry, I had no to reason to summarize the nature of your posting like that. I hope you and your beautiful family will accept my deepest apology as I go crawl back into my cold and lonely cave... You should try to read more - it enlightens

 

[willycat]

Isn't "He said he wanted to transfer" more accurate than "he was asked to transfer"?

And, once a player indicates he will transfer why is the staff obligated to take him back?

Exactly Medill. He's not back because he's not a Big 10 type player and he asked to transfer out. Now he should do what he wanted to do and get on with his education and BB career. I would imagine that UIC and Chicago State would have a schlorship available.

 

[willycat]

He was promised a four-year scholarship and now he has one. Asking him, as you're implying, to voluntarily give up his scholarship to a top-flight university so the team he's no longer a part of can win more basketball games is insulting to the intelligence.

But I'm not surprised you're less concerned about his academic well-being now that he's off the basketball team. You're a college sports fan, after all.

Styre, I think it's wonderful that he is getting his education but let's not forget that he quit on the team and is using a schlorship intended for a basketball player. Yes I'm a fan, as likely most of the posters on this board and yes I would also like to NU win more games.

 

[Medill90]

And how many in this world have announced their resignation...after being ask for it?

It was reported here that it was open knowledge on the team through the second half of last season that he would transfer.

It doesn't make him a bad guy for having a different opinion of his capabilities than the staff. And I don't criticize him at all for sticking around and getting as many NU classes -- and possibly an NU degree -- under his belt.

I also don't blame Collins for gladly waving goodbye and, it true, not wanting him back on the team.

This is all opinion that I've written before. There's really nothing new on the Vasser issue. Those otherwise critical of Collins consider it Creaning. Those supportive of Collins see nothing there.

The most off base comments IMO are those who think he should be let back on the team because NU is shallow at guard. Clearly the relationship is severed and if he plays college basketball again it ain't going to be at NU.

And rather than our having to find a villain maybe we should be pleased that guys like Turner and Vasser are allowed to stay and finish. Doesn't that speak volumes about the difference of this program and too many others?

I'm repeating myself so I'll stop posting on this topic. I promise.

 

[IGNORE2]

It was reported here that it was open knowledge on the team through the second half of last season that he would transfer.

This is all opinion that I've written before. There's really nothing new on the Vasser issue. Those otherwise critical of Collins consider it Creaning. Those supportive of fference of this program and too many others?.

Lots of 'reports' on the Michigan site too. Pretty self serving this 'report.' Funny thing - NU doesn't give up full rides like that. First hand knowledge here covering revenue and non-revenue sports. And, I agree, if true, all is just wonderful. NU rising above cut throat athletics and allowing a boy to get a free ride after he realizes that he doesn't fit the bill.

Sorry, but no way. Maybe the Michigan alum will buy all the PR from the MI athletics, and maybe a bunch of you will stretch reality to keep your perception flawless, but not me. The simple fact that Vasser is on an athletic ride says something is amiss.

I do hope those backing NU on the Vasser situation are in no way attacking Harbaugh. Height of hypocracy, that is.