Siemian Success Awesome -- but also damning of our OL/Playcalling

[Grafcat]

So happy to see him shine last night.... 3 TDs! We've seen him do the awkward but effective juke move he scored on.

But isn't it a bit incriminating that we had this solid NFL-level QB and didn't even have him the full time starter? And we couldn't give him even a modicum of protection to allow him to not be running for his life? With just an average Big Ten O-line he would have been injured less and dominant.

That he was not more successful at NU seems to fit with the narrative of the O-line continuing to derail us in recent years.

But hey -- awesome for him!

 

[Hungry Jack]

3...2...1...

 

[DaCat]

Screw it. Just as we should've converted Kain Colter to wide receiver early in his career, we blew our chance to convert Trevor Siemien into the next ankle-breaking running back with a self-reported 4.3 speed. We saw what could have been when Trevor went one-on-one against Joey Bosa.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

Screw it. Just as we should've converted Kain Colter to wide receiver early in his career, we blew our chance to convert Trevor Siemien into the next ankle-breaking running back with a self-reported 4.3 speed. We saw what could have been when Trevor went one-on-one against Joey Bosa.

Payback for this one?

 

[Hungry Jack]

Screw it. Just as we should've converted Kain Colter to wide receiver early in his career, we blew our chance to convert Trevor Siemien into the next ankle-breaking running back with a self-reported 4.3 speed. We saw what could have been when Trevor went one-on-one against Joey Bosa.

That totally whales.

 

[DarthCat]

Payback for this one?

Remind me. Was that flagged?

 

[gocatsgo2003]

Remind me. Was that flagged?

Honestly don't know. Was just the first collegiate photo of Siemian and Bosa that I could find in Google Images.

 

[PURPLECAT88]

So happy to see him shine last night.... 3 TDs! We've seen him do the awkward but effective juke move he scored on.

But isn't it a bit incriminating that we had this solid NFL-level QB and didn't even have him the full time starter? And we couldn't give him even a modicum of protection to allow him to not be running for his life? With just an average Big Ten O-line he would have been injured less and dominant.

That he was not more successful at NU seems to fit with the narrative of the O-line continuing to derail us in recent years.

But hey -- awesome for him!

Or you could say "Kudos to our coaching staff for taking a player who couldn't even win a B1G starting job in his first 3 years and turning him into a viable NFL starter."

But who am I to step on your convenient narrative?

 

[hdhntr1]

So happy to see him shine last night.... 3 TDs! We've seen him do the awkward but effective juke move he scored on.

But isn't it a bit incriminating that we had this solid NFL-level QB and didn't even have him the full time starter? And we couldn't give him even a modicum of protection to allow him to not be running for his life? With just an average Big Ten O-line he would have been injured less and dominant.

That he was not more successful at NU seems to fit with the narrative of the O-line continuing to derail us in recent years.

But hey -- awesome for him!

TS was hardly healthy when he was here. Dinged up or worse much of the time. Not many are going to argue that the OL was stellar and his lack of mobility hurt him. That KC got ahead of him and was more mobile is the reason TS did not start in front of him. Play calling favored what the coaches felt gave us the best chance to win and that play calling favored using KC ahead of TS but it was good enough to take advantage of his skills when they brought him in.

You have to remember the reason for the spread. It was to improve the chances of a less talented team. That is the reason we have continued to use it. Because we are often less talented than our opponents. .

 

[BigCatWilliam]

Or you could say "Kudos to our coaching staff for taking a player who couldn't even win a B1G starting job in his first 3 years and turning him into a viable NFL starter."

But who am I to step on your convenient narrative?

O really? If he was still at Northwestern,he'd still be on the sideline with his "paws up"! Fitz promised Kain the job when he burned his shirt as a freshman.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

O really? If he was still at Northwestern,he'd still be on the sideline with his "paws up"! Fitz promised Kain the job when he burned his shirt as a freshman.

No he didn't.

 

[GlideCat]

So happy to see him shine last night.... 3 TDs! We've seen him do the awkward but effective juke move he scored on.

But isn't it a bit incriminating that we had this solid NFL-level QB and didn't even have him the full time starter? And we couldn't give him even a modicum of protection to allow him to not be running for his life? With just an average Big Ten O-line he would have been injured less and dominant.

That he was not more successful at NU seems to fit with the narrative of the O-line continuing to derail us in recent years.

But hey -- awesome for him!

Between our O-Line and Denver's O-Line, I think TS might get confused if he had reasonable protection.

j/k

 

[EvanstonCat]

Or you could say "Kudos to our coaching staff for taking a player who couldn't even win a B1G starting job in his first 3 years and turning him into a viable NFL starter."

But who am I to step on your convenient narrative?

Now you're just being difficult.

 

[EvanstonCat]

TS was hardly healthy when he was here. Dinged up or worse much of the time. Not many are going to argue that the OL was stellar and his lack of mobility hurt him. That KC got ahead of him and was more mobile is the reason TS did not start in front of him. Play calling favored what the coaches felt gave us the best chance to win and that play calling favored using KC ahead of TS but it was good enough to take advantage of his skills when they brought him in.

You have to remember the reason for the spread. It was to improve the chances of a less talented team. That is the reason we have continued to use it. Because we are often less talented than our opponents. .

Seems Trevor is doing just fine with as shitty an OL in the League. That excuse is repeated as much as it is ridiculous. As is the notion that he's a complete statue. Joey Bosa's ankles would disagree with you.

 

[ColumbusCatFan1]

That excuse is repeated as much as it is ridiculous. As is the notion that he's a complete statue. Joey Bosa's ankles would disagree with you.

As ridiculous as implying Trevor broke Joey Bossa's ankles?

Seriously though, watch a replay. Bossa overan the play and didn't break down properly. I'm in complete agreement that Trevor has some mobility (injuries while at NU muted that part of his game in college) and his fake was clever, but let's not go overboard.

Given the play of OL & WRs in 2012-13, as well as losing Mark, Colter clearly gave the offense the best chance to succeed most weeks. Kain was a leader, a gifted athlete and knew how to make things happen when plays went south. He provided a decent amount of what Persa (who I believe was the perfect QB for McCall's O) brought to Mick's scheme and bailed out the offense on many a third down. He also may have ended up a better passer had it not been for the shoulder injury.

The Denver Broncos and the Northwestern Wildcats are different entities. Apples to oranges.