So, who do you despise more…
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The first time I went to a game at Notre Dame many years ago, I was cheering for the opponent. The ND fans were very nice to me. I went twice to cheer for Northwestern against ND. Again the Irish fans were great even after NU won. I have gone to scores of other ND games because my son went there. I have yet to find the arrogance that everyone attributes to the Irish faithful. I am bewildered by the hatred. Just because some of you might work with a couple Notre Dame a-holes hardly makes you experts on the fan base. My guess is some of you go at them with several chips on both shoulders. The knock on ND fans is baseless. Maybe the problem is not them. I write this because I’ve encountered undeserved belligerence from folks who go at me simply because I'm wearing ND gear. Physician, heal thyself.
Every fanbase has knuckleheads. Being from Chicagoland, I have probably been to 20 games in South Bend. I have never once seen opposing fans taking abuse there. I was wearing my NU gear for the Brian Kelly mismanaged debacle. If there every was a game to leave pissed as a ND fan, this qualifies. No issues at all. There are B1G schools where you getting treated NU much worse. At Wisconsin, I fear for my life sometimes!
I believe they get a lot of hate for a high percentage of over the top subway fans. They can be very vocal, with their only affiliation being Irish or Catholic. The admissions selectivity causes the perception of arrogance. Hey, but how is that different than NU? Been around graduates from both schools that give off this aura.
I know most don’t agree with this, but I was happy ND sent James home. Let’s see who he blames for this loss. I haven’t been to PSU, but their fans coming to NU can certainly be knuckleheads too with their dancing and taunting while Franklin throws unnecessary bombs to run up the score.
I despise PSU more only because I felt they didn't suffer enough for their transgressions several years ago.
As for Notre Dame, I think my hatred of them stems from something that goes way back to the 1980s and 1990s with their special love and considerations given to them by the media, like Tim Brown winning the Heisman or getting their own TV deal. It just became fun to root against them (like the Yankees or Duke basketball), partly because they were always good and partly because so many people gush over them. I always hated Nebraska for the same reason and have had special joy at their usual mediocrity since moving to the Big Ten.
I met my wife in 2002, and she's not a sports fan, so she knew nothing of 1995. I've tried to explain many times just how enormous NU's victory over Notre Dame was in 1995, and I'm not sure she'll ever get it. If NU beat another team ranked in the top 10 and favored by 28 to start that run that year, it would have been a great upset, but it wouldn't have been the same. Freaking Notre Dame! Beaten by lowly Northwestern!
As for Notre Dame, I think my hatred of them stems from something that goes way back to the 1980s and 1990s with their special love and considerations given to them by the media, like Tim Brown winning the Heisman or getting their own TV deal. It just became fun to root against them (like the Yankees or Duke basketball), partly because they were always good and partly because so many people gush over them. I always hated Nebraska for the same reason and have had special joy at their usual mediocrity since moving to the Big Ten.
I met my wife in 2002, and she's not a sports fan, so she knew nothing of 1995. I've tried to explain many times just how enormous NU's victory over Notre Dame was in 1995, and I'm not sure she'll ever get it. If NU beat another team ranked in the top 10 and favored by 28 to start that run that year, it would have been a great upset, but it wouldn't have been the same. Freaking Notre Dame! Beaten by lowly Northwestern!
Both passing games were pretty pathetic, but Penn State was BAD BAD BAD pathetic. Aller was horrible, which isn't new for him. He's very lucky he only had one INT. Penn State also had ZERO completions to wide receivers, which is wild.
ND is going to be a sizeable underdog to whichever team wins tonight, which is fair. Their defense is legit and Leonard is enough of a gamer to beat a more talented team if they make mistakes, which is exactly how they beat Georgia, but a crisp Ohio State has way too much firepower on both sides of the ball for them to compete. Too much of these playoffs have been determined by the ordering of the bracket, particularly the Ohio State - Oregon pairing.
Yep, brackets really screwed up the sequence of games. Ohio State -Oregon should never have been a quarterfinal game.
