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Speed or a lack thereof

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At Key skill positions. If Kirtz and Tyus could have gone to the house that's eight more points and it would have been a tie game
 
At Key skill positions. If Kirtz and Tyus could have gone to the house that's eight more points and it would have been a tie game
Both got taken down by a single pursuer. Change directions and get the pursuer to stumble a bit
 
Both got taken down by a single pursuer. Change directions and get the pursuer to stumble a bit
Tyus had no chance to house that one, any of the other DBs would have run him down. Kirtz, too bad he didn’t have half a step more or that’s at TD.
 
There is absolutely no issue with this team’s speed. It is average and is a non issue in the outcome of the games.

Tyus is slow downfield for a RB for a fact. Kirtz is fine. Good athlete.
 
Tyus is slow downfield for a RB for a fact. Kirtz is fine. Good athlete.
Ok. What does that have to do with team speed? We have some fast guys, a lot of average guys and some slow guys for their position. Just like most teams. Speed isn’t the problem.
 
Ok. What does that have to do with team speed? We have some fast guys, a lot of average guys and some slow guys for their position. Just like most teams. Speed isn’t the problem.

We have MAAYYBBBEEEEE one fast guy on offense.
 
Like I said, this team is no different than most past NU Teams. Guys like Himon, Henning, Kirtz, Gordon, SaKa, etc. have good speed for their positions most other guys we have are average with some below average. Lack of speed is not the reason we aren’t winning games.

…which does not mean we actually have decent team speed.
 
It might be most helpful if NU had speed - and the corresponding technique - at the OL position. Makes all the skill position players look faster.
 
Yes it does. It’s all relative. Not relative to Georgia but certainly relative to most of the teams we play on our schedule.

“We used to win with mostly slow guys, why can’t we still win with mostly slow guys?”
 
Ok. What does that have to do with team speed? We have some fast guys, a lot of average guys and some slow guys for their position. Just like most teams. Speed isn’t the problem.

Responding to the earlier comment. Relative to team speed, IMO it seems like we are good at DB, sort of slow at LB, slow on the DL, unskilled on the OL, adequate at receivers, unskilled at TE, mixed at RB and slow at QB. Kind of a mixed bag. Like most so-so teams.
 
Responding to the earlier comment. Relative to team speed, IMO it seems like we are good at DB, sort of slow at LB, slow on the DL, unskilled on the OL, adequate at receivers, unskilled at TE, mixed at RB and slow at QB. Kind of a mixed bag. Like most so-so teams.
We aren't even looking so- so right now. We likely could end up 4-8, or even God help us 3-9 if by some way we find a way to lose to Purdue. Our defense is decent enough to keep us in most games. The offense is just plain lousy
 
Responding to the earlier comment. Relative to team speed, IMO it seems like we are good at DB, sort of slow at LB, slow on the DL, unskilled on the OL, adequate at receivers, unskilled at TE, mixed at RB and slow at QB. Kind of a mixed bag. Like most so-so teams.
We could have the Carl Lewis and Usain Bolt and it wouldn’t matter because we
Can’t block anybody. The oline is just beyond abysmal.
 
Responding to the earlier comment. Relative to team speed, IMO it seems like we are good at DB, sort of slow at LB, slow on the DL, unskilled on the OL, adequate at receivers, unskilled at TE, mixed at RB and slow at QB. Kind of a mixed bag. Like most so-so teams.
I am not so sure we are unskilled at TE. If you look at those guys, pretty much every one has got worst ( at least statistically) since they first stepped on the field. Gordon has showed skill and Albright has all but disappeared. The OL is so bad, they keep Charlie in there because he blocks better. It’s a jail break even with Charlie so they might want to try something else.
 
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I am not so sure we are unskilled at TE. If you look at those guys, pretty much every one has got worst ( at least statistically) since they first stepped on the field. Gordon has showed skill and Albright has all but disappeared. The OL is so bad, they keep Charlie in there because he blocks better. It’s a jail break even with Charlie so they might want to try something else.

Curious as to why we abandoned adding a 6th OL in place of a TE in obvious running situations. That’s been a mainstay in our gameplan over the last few years. Why not play Franks or Knox in that role?
 
Curious as to why we abandoned adding a 6th OL in place of a TE in obvious running situations. That’s been a mainstay in our gameplan over the last few years. Why not play Franks or Knox in that role?

Right, considering tight ends get targeted 1-2 times a game. I guess the tight ends are in there for the surprise factor. Based on teams bringing half the house every play I don't think they care if the tight ends run free.
 
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Right, considering tight ends get targeted 1-2 times a game. I guess the tight ends are in there for the surprise factor. Based on teams bringing half the house every play I don't think they care if the tight ends run free.

Even stranger considering the glimpses Gordon and Lang have given in recent seasons. Not sure why Jake has gotten away from utilizing them more in the passing game.
 
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On the end zone cam replay of the Tyus run, an OL threw up his fist in ‘to the house’ celebration less than five strides before Tyus was caught from behind. Frustrating, but also comical.
 
Ok. What does that have to do with team speed? We have some fast guys, a lot of average guys and some slow guys for their position. Just like most teams. Speed isn’t the problem.
Sorry but we tend to end up on the short end in speed compared to many teams we play
 
We have MAAYYBBBEEEEE one fast guy on offense.
I would say a couple. Hinmon but he is basically down the depth chart, Henning but he has been dinged up. Kitz at one point but gets dinged up as well. Whole lot less than our opponents
 
Like I said, this team is no different than most past NU Teams. Guys like Himon, Henning, Kirtz, Gordon, SaKa, etc. have good speed for their positions most other guys we have are average with some below average. Lack of speed is not the reason we aren’t winning games.
It doesn't help
 
We could have the Carl Lewis and Usain Bolt and it wouldn’t matter because we
Can’t block anybody. The oline is just beyond abysmal.
Maybe with those to they might be able to get separation quick enough for our QB to not be picking himself up after being sacked
 
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