WildcatReport - College football on a slippery slope with NIL
Northwestern head coach Pat Fitzgerald thinks that college football needs to put some "guardrails" around NIL.
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We’re literally the only country in the world that pimps out young athletes under the guise of “education” and “amateurism” - meanwhile the “academic” institutions make millions off their efforts, and the coaches get rich. (Even “noble” NU “does it the right way” and exploits them to make bank). Every other country sends kids to pro leagues, where they work their way up to the top flight divisions. Our system is one big sham - and this latest NIL ridiculousness is the best thing that could ever happen.What did we think was going to happen?
What could go wrong?
Why are you putting education and academic in quotes?We’re literally the only country in the world that pimps out young athletes under the guise of “education” and “amateurism” - meanwhile the “academic” institutions make millions of their efforts, and the coaches get rich. (Even “noble” NU “does it the right way” and exploits makes Bank). Every other country sends kids to pro leagues, where they work their way up to the top flight teams. Out system is one big sham - and this latest NIL ridiculousness is the best thing that could ever happen.
The NFL and NBA were all too happy to farm out player development to the NCAA, and the NCAA loved generating billions. Now the tables have turned and they don’t know what to do, becuase every new NIL deal shows how badly they held athletes back. Hopefully this leads both pro leagues to create proper minor leagues, leaving NCAA football and basketball to resemble what college baseball and soccer look like now.
I regret that I have but one like to give to this comment.We’re literally the only country in the world that pimps out young athletes under the guise of “education” and “amateurism” - meanwhile the “academic” institutions make millions of their efforts, and the coaches get rich. (Even “noble” NU “does it the right way” and exploits makes Bank). Every other country sends kids to pro leagues, where they work their way up to the top flight teams. Out system is one big sham - and this latest NIL ridiculousness is the best thing that could ever happen.
The NFL and NBA were all too happy to farm out player development to the NCAA, and the NCAA loved generating billions. Now the tables have turned and they don’t know what to do, becuase every new NIL deal shows how badly they held athletes back. Hopefully this leads both pro leagues to create proper minor leagues, leaving NCAA football and basketball to resemble what college baseball and soccer look like now.
Richer, like Tennessee…Don't get me wrong, the kids deserve the money. But the current situation is definitely "rich get richer"
The Supreme Court ruling (which was unanimous at 9-0 if I recall) basically made it clear that the NCAA cannot limit it. And the language was pretty scathing. Instead of allowing it in some reasonable manner to begin with, the NCAA tried to fully restrict it, so then it got called into question as illegal / anti-competitive, and the Supreme Court smacked it down. So now we are at this place where they can't really do much about it. I suppose a legislative solution is possible, but why would any Congressman / woman want to do anything about it at this stage? Doesn't seem like a fun issue to take on that would win you much support, to go try to take away (or restrict) the ability of college students to make money?Is the NCAA intending to allow this to run unchecked and non regulated? Will courts allow regulation? A quandary only a legislative fix can likely resolve. Good luck with that. Representative Gonzalez, the last Representative to take on this ordeal is resigning.
Another Italian, name Arthur Fonzarelli, once said, words to the effect of: "grown men chasing a little ball around". I grow weary of it as well, and now follow only NUFB and MBB. Nothing else.My wife’s late Italian-immigrant grandfather once told me, “This is a ball country. Throw the ball. Kick the ball. Hit the ball. Nobody ever does any important work.”
I’ll add that they pay them millions not to do the important work. I’m rapidly losing interest in the whole project.
The NCAA has been on the clock to fix it since roughly 1994, which was the first season the NCAA tournament contract had a total value in the billions.Is the NCAA intending to allow this to run unchecked and non regulated? Will courts allow regulation? A quandary only a legislative fix can likely resolve. Good luck with that. Representative Gonzalez, the last Representative to take on this ordeal is resigning.
The Supreme Court ruling said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about NIL. It pertained to extra educational expenses paid by the university.The Supreme Court ruling (which was unanimous at 9-0 if I recall) basically made it clear that the NCAA cannot limit it.
Yeah - we need people to draw ever more attention to the social injustice of giving 18-year-old young adults educations worth tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars, free food and living spaces, free books, and free tutoring to play a game they love while also being able to cherry-pick the best looking girls on campus, revel in the stardom that accompanies college athletes, and receive expert coaching that may prepare the best of them for professional careers, where the money, the women, and the accoutrements are compounded. Yes, of course they also, with some effort on their part, may well receive a college degree. What shameful exploitation. The world is so corrupt. REVOLUTION NOW!!!We’re literally the only country in the world that pimps out young athletes under the guise of “education” and “amateurism” - meanwhile the “academic” institutions make millions off their efforts, and the coaches get rich. (Even “noble” NU “does it the right way” and exploits them to make bank). Every other country sends kids to pro leagues, where they work their way up to the top flight divisions. Our system is one big sham - and this latest NIL ridiculousness is the best thing that could ever happen.
The NFL and NBA were all too happy to farm out player development to the NCAA, and the NCAA loved generating billions. Now the tables have turned and they don’t know what to do, becuase every new NIL deal shows how badly they held athletes back - and what a joke “amateur sports” has always been. Hopefully this leads both pro leagues to create proper minor leagues, leaving NCAA football and basketball to resemble what college baseball and soccer look like now.
I assume you are a capitalist. The entire sports industry (from salary caps, the draft, amateurism) is exploitive of athletes. Yes, I many cases they are paid millions, but a true marketplace would value their worth in the tens of millions.Yeah - we need people to draw ever more attention to the social injustice of giving 18-year-old young adults educations worth tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars, free food and living spaces, free books, and free tutoring to play a game they love while also being able to cherry-pick the best looking girls on campus, revel in the stardom that accompanies college athletes, and receive expert coaching that may prepare the best of them for professional careers, where the money, the women, and the accoutrements are compounded. Yes, of course they also, with some effort on their part, may well receive a college degree. What shameful exploitation. The world is so corrupt. REVOLUTION NOW!!!
(By the way, different states, including Illinois, have enacted rules governing NILs.)
An aging booster says he likes things the way they have always been. Shocker.Yeah - we need people to draw ever more attention to the social injustice of giving 18-year-old young adults educations…
I assume you are a capitalist. The entire sports industry (from salary caps, the draft, amateurism) is exploitive of athletes. Yes, I many cases they are paid millions, but a true marketplace would value their worth in the tens of millions.
He's worse than that. He's a free market capitalist.I assume you are a capitalist.
LeBron was almost certainly worth more at his peak than he was paid to play basketball, but the cap and maximum salary levels made that an impossibility.He's worse than that. He's a free market capitalist.
But I do agree that college sports have been exploiting student athletes for decades. I think NIL is generally a step in the right direction.
As for the pros, they are generally compensated in line with their value. Guys like LBJ will always make more money from endorsements than from NBA salary (which is now $40M per year for the top guys. That's generational wealth for one season of work if you are not stupid with money).
You should note that players' unions negotiate the contracts with the sports owners, and in general they protect veterans at the expense of rookie/younger players.
Perhaps Brad Underwood should be compensated with books and Twitter endorsements.Yeah - we need people to draw ever more attention to the social injustice of giving 18-year-old young adults educations worth tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars, free food and living spaces, free books, and free tutoring to play a game they love while also being able to cherry-pick the best looking girls on campus, revel in the stardom that accompanies college athletes, and receive expert coaching that may prepare the best of them for professional careers, where the money, the women, and the accoutrements are compounded. Yes, of course they also, with some effort on their part, may well receive a college degree. What shameful exploitation. The world is so corrupt. REVOLUTION NOW!!!
(By the way, different states, including Illinois, have enacted rules governing NILs.)
He’s a part-time “teacher,” dude. Clearly he deserves an adjunct professor’s salary.Perhaps Brad Underwood should be compensated with books and Twitter endorsements.
Scholarships for revenue athletes are worthless. If they were poor, they would get aid, if they are rich they can afford it, if they are middle class, they can work at Home Depot for $17/hour and not put life and limb at risk for dear Ole Alma Mater. Scholarships are a scam for revenue athletesYeah - we need people to draw ever more attention to the social injustice of giving 18-year-old young adults educations worth tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars, free food and living spaces, free books, and free tutoring to play a game they love while also being able to cherry-pick the best looking girls on campus, revel in the stardom that accompanies college athletes, and receive expert coaching that may prepare the best of them for professional careers, where the money, the women, and the accoutrements are compounded. Yes, of course they also, with some effort on their part, may well receive a college degree. What shameful exploitation. The world is so corrupt. REVOLUTION NOW!!!
(By the way, different states, including Illinois, have enacted rules governing NILs.)
There are very few practicing capitalists left anymore.He's worse than that. He's a free market capitalist.
But I do agree that college sports have been exploiting student athletes for decades. I think NIL is generally a step in the right direction.
As for the pros, they are generally compensated in line with their value. Guys like LBJ will always make more money from endorsements than from NBA salary (which is now $40M per year for the top guys. That's generational wealth for one season of work if you are not stupid with money).
You should note that players' unions negotiate the contracts with the sports owners, and in general they protect veterans at the expense of rookie/younger players.
Every American capitalist believes in capitalist profits and socialized losses.There are very few practicing capitalists left anymore.
"I'm a capitalist! Yes I support the Federal Reserve buying $trillions in bonds and driving up the stock market. Yes I support enormous bailouts of businesses and industries that should be bankrupt because they couldn't defend against economic downturns."
You can't just change the definition of capitalism as needed.
Maybe you should look at college athletics historically and understand how the present situation evolved.A) the kids deserve the money
B) THE KIDS DESERVE THE MONEY
C) They are, or will no longer be, student athletes. These are NBA/NFL developmental leagues, subsidized by boosters and fans that are, as Seinfeld put it, rooting for laundry. NU was one of very few FBS bastions of student athletes, but that will go by the wayside
D) Through these new NIL/Portal lenses, we can clearly see what a laughable system this is, with approximately 15000 revenue athletes dragging along this ridiculous economic system which pays for thousands of other athletes, high-cost coaches and administrators, stadiums and other buildings, all in the name of dubious-value scholarships.
E) See A and B
If the kids deserve the money, then they should be making it in pro leagues.A) the kids deserve the money
B) THE KIDS DESERVE THE MONEY
Well, I'm 60 years old and have been following FB and BB (only) since I was like 10. I'm not into hand-wringing as a general rule, though I do love to complain. Perhaps you disagree, but I believe that the NIL/Portal, while finally getting some of the money to well-deserving revenue athletes, will change the dynamic of the game to the point where it is unrecognizable. Sort of like a greatly expanded version of BBall's "one and done" rule, except, in addition to, say, 50 Bball players that leave for the pros after a year, now we have an annual carousel of FB/BB players, in the thousands, that will deservedly transfer to greener pa$tures.Maybe you should look at college athletics historically and understand how the present situation evolved.
Looking at a snapshot of the present (only?) can lead to oversimplification and misunderstanding.
Feral, these now ARE pro leagues.If the kids deserve the money, then they should be making it in pro leagues.
Who's the employer? Who pays their salaries?Feral, these now ARE pro leagues.
Phatcat - You're okay with me. We are in the same generation... The money issues in college athletics have been there for a long time. Should players be compensated for athletics via scholarships? Should they be compensated because winning at sports is good for a school's image / spirit / reputation? Are scholarships enough? Should kids be paid like its a work/study job? Those were all legit issues to me...Well, I'm 60 years old and have been following FB and BB (only) since I was like 10. I'm not into hand-wringing as a general rule, though I do love to complain. Perhaps you disagree, but I believe that the NIL/Portal, while finally getting some of the money to well-deserving revenue athletes, will change the dynamic of the game to the point where it is unrecognizable. Sort of like a greatly expanded version of BBall's "one and done" rule, except, in addition to, say, 50 Bball players that leave for the pros after a year, now we have an annual carousel of FB/BB players, in the thousands, that will deservedly transfer to greener pa$tures.
Feral, these now ARE pro leagues.
Yea! The NCAA is for amateurs… who generate billions for coaches and institutions 🙄If the kids deserve the money, then they should be making it in pro leagues.
If I’m not mistaken, the BTN crews dedicated to covering amateur sports are compensated in tuition and per diem. I hear Robbie Hummel is particularly good at squirreling away some of that per diem through ‘buy one take one’ deals at Olive Garden.Yea! The NCAA is for amateurs… who generate billions for coaches and institutions 🙄
If they're good enough to be paid millions, why aren't they in the NFL or NBA? That's above the "minimum wage" in those leagues.Yea! The NCAA is for amateurs… who generate billions for coaches and institutions 🙄
If they’re not the attraction, why did March Madness generate $1B? Tell you what - let’s replace all the athletes with the students in the engineering departments and see how that goes!If they're good enough to be paid millions, why aren't they in the NFL or NBA? That's above the "minimum wage" in those leagues.
That doesn't answer my question. There's a reason I asked it.If they’re not the attraction, why did March Madness generate $1B? Tell you what - let’s replace all the athletes with the students in the engineering departments and see how that goes!
Italians are obsessed with soccer. Talk about chasing a little ball around all day.Another Italian, name Arthur Fonzarelli, once said, words to the effect of: "grown men chasing a little ball around". I grow weary of it as well, and now follow only NUFB and MBB. Nothing else.
It's entertainment, nothing more. The difference is that an event can now be made available to tens of millions at a time, meaning tens of millions of dollars have followed
Well, it might be because those leagues, together, can only absorb around 300 of the 15000 FBS/NCAA D1 MBB players per year. Doesn't change the dynamic of highly paid coaches/administrators/sports networks/heck even referees making money whilst the real entertainment is the indentured servants on the field.If they're good enough to be paid millions, why aren't they in the NFL or NBA? That's above the "minimum wage" in those leagues.