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The 3-2-1 going into Week 7

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The bye week is here and @mikefitz77 has three things we learned, two questions we're asking and one bold prediction after the Howard game.
 
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Thanks for the analysis, @mikefitz77.

re: QB
Have we heard anything on Gray? I’d be disappointed if we could write him off so quickly. I also wonder what Lausch looks like as a quarterback, and not as a gimmick.

Of course, Gray and Lausch are two more in the long line of NU quarterbacks recruited since Thorson with zero other P5 offers. So, you’re probably right that it’ll be a transfer situation again. Yuck.
 
I never played quarterback outside of rec league football on Long Field, where I was pretty darn good! That said, I have always suspected that one difference between good quarterbacks and not-so-good quarterbacks is their ability to anticipate and throw to a route instead of to an open man. This involves knowing your receivers and also being able to read the defense in order to, in a sense, predict where the openings are going to be.

When you watch a really good quarterback, you can see them throw the ball to a region on the field before there is even an open receiver. That may be a crossing route in the middle or a back shoulder throw along the boundary, or even just a long bomb. But your worse quarterbacks seem to only be able to throw the ball to a receiver that they can see is open. I feel like NU has had a lot of QBs like the latter. They need to see our guy beat the coverage before they feel comfortable throwing it.

To me, it seems like Ben Bryant does as good a job as anyone at NU in a long time at throwing the receiver open, whereas Sullivan looked afraid to let go of the ball all day. He only threw it if he saw space between the receiver and the coverage. To be honest, I always thought Clayton Thorsen had this problem a little bit too and it's what kept him from becoming a truly great NU quarterback. I would have thought that with a four year starter with his physical skills, we would have been a pass happy team that could really move the ball, but he never seemed to take that step developmentally.

I'd be curious to hear from others who know the game better than me if I'm correct in my thinking or way off base.
 
Thanks for the analysis, @mikefitz77.

re: QB
Have we heard anything on Gray? I’d be disappointed if we could write him off so quickly. I also wonder what Lausch looks like as a quarterback, and not as a gimmick.

Of course, Gray and Lausch are two more in the long line of NU quarterbacks recruited since Thorson with zero other P5 offers. So, you’re probably right that it’ll be a transfer situation again. Yuck.
Lausch sort of had a Notre Dame offer, didn't he? (Just not a scholarship offer.)
 
Lausch sort of had a Notre Dame offer, didn't he? (Just not a scholarship offer.)
He was going to ND to play baseball. Two-sport is really, really rare. A Qb who can’t play spring ball will not be a QB.

I never played quarterback outside of rec league football on Long Field, where I was pretty darn good! That said, I have always suspected that one difference between good quarterbacks and not-so-good quarterbacks is their ability to anticipate and throw to a route instead of to an open man. This involves knowing your receivers and also being able to read the defense in order to, in a sense, predict where the openings are going to be.

When you watch a really good quarterback, you can see them throw the ball to a region on the field before there is even an open receiver. That may be a crossing route in the middle or a back shoulder throw along the boundary, or even just a long bomb. But your worse quarterbacks seem to only be able to throw the ball to a receiver that they can see is open. I feel like NU has had a lot of QBs like the latter. They need to see our guy beat the coverage before they feel comfortable throwing it.

To me, it seems like Ben Bryant does as good a job as anyone at NU in a long time at throwing the receiver open, whereas Sullivan looked afraid to let go of the ball all day. He only threw it if he saw space between the receiver and the coverage. To be honest, I always thought Clayton Thorsen had this problem a little bit too and it's what kept him from becoming a truly great NU quarterback. I would have thought that with a four year starter with his physical skills, we would have been a pass happy team that could really move the ball, but he never seemed to take that step developmentally.

I'd be curious to hear from others who know the game better than me if I'm correct in my thinking or way off base.
I don’t know the game either, but I’ve seen what you’ve seen with Bryant anticipating or ‘throwing guys open’. Sullivan doesn’t have the confidence in his arm to do that.

The numbers won’t bear it out (cough cough OL), but I think Bryant is NU’s best pure thrower since Kafka.
 
Thanks for the analysis, @mikefitz77.

re: QB
Have we heard anything on Gray? I’d be disappointed if we could write him off so quickly. I also wonder what Lausch looks like as a quarterback, and not as a gimmick.

Of course, Gray and Lausch are two more in the long line of NU quarterbacks recruited since Thorson with zero other P5 offers. So, you’re probably right that it’ll be a transfer situation again. Yuck.
Haven't heard anything negative re Gray, just think he's in his first year on campus. The top four is so locked right now with Bryant, Hilinski and Sullivan being in Year 3 or later and then Lausch expanding the playbook. Not ruling out Gray being in the mix for the starting job next year, but I think the staff will try to bring another transfer in to battle Sullivan. If Gray earns a spot in that battle off 3rd/4th reps then he earns a spot.
 

The bye week is here and @mikefitz77 has three things we learned, two questions we're asking and one bold prediction after the Howard game.

When it's the sixth game of his fifth season and the line can't open holes in the running game or protect effectively against Howard, it may be time to look in the mirror elsewhere.
 
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When it's the sixth game of his fifth season and the line can't open holes in the running game or protect effectively against Howard, it may be time to look in the mirror elsewhere.
Wait... it's my fault?!?
 
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