Thoughts on who will be the 2023 QB

[phatcat]

Maybe this coaching staff is just flat out bad at developing QBs out of high school

It is a pretty short list and they were all developed by McCall. A total of 3 by my count

 

[Katatonic]

^ That's being generous since none of those QBs (don't even recall Thorson doing so) have ever credited McC for their development)

Based on the QRS his numbers are better than any other B1G QB.

Does that include all the transfers into the conference?

Don't disagree. He was surrounded by some nice talent at Cinci, just like Hilinski was surrounded by some nice complementary talent at South Carolina when he looked great as a true freshman against Alabama. Again, I don't want to come across as someone who is not happy to have him on board because I am. He is a good player and our depth chart is screaming for more good players. Having said that, when I watched his games at Cinci I saw a player with some of the same problems I saw with Hilinski last year. A guy who struggled to make plays when forced to move from his spot. A guy with probably better accuracy than Hilinski but a player whose accuracy diminished quite a bit under pressure, which is not unusual. These type of players are not ideal fits for our offense and that is why I think the competition for the starting job between Bryant and Sullivan will be closer than many people believe. I, for one, am hoping that Sullivan emerges the victor because I just think having a homegrown, mobile player like him win the starting job will be much better for the health of the program in the short term and long term.

Don't necessarily need a "running QB," but a mobile QB who can throw accurately on the run.

But even then, such a QB needs targets who can get separation quickly and YAC.

Remember a game against Nebby, where the #1 and #2 receivers were knocked out by halftime (and had previously lost the real #1 WR in preseason), so while Siemian (throwing darts) still had a high completion % in the 2nd half, the O struggled to move the ball as defenders were in the receivers' back pockets and quickly tackled them for a short gain.

 

[hdhntr1]

If Bryant can get the first-team reps in practice and be our QB1, we could possibly win 4, 5, or even 6 games. Plus with that valuable experience, mastering the offense and gaining the trust and confidence of the team, he might lead the team to the top of the BIGW the next season.
Some can leap to the top, others have to climb the ladder.

He pretty much has to as Spring ball is behind us

 

[hdhntr1]

Are you sure about those reports last camp? I have heard conflicting things about the Qb race last summer. The reports I find more credible indicate it was close to a toss up and the coaches deferred to the more experienced player. That was a mistake in retrospect. This offense does not go without a QB who is a running threat. Sullivan is the only guy in the running that provides that skillset.

Sully really had no game time experience and our first game was against Nebraska vs a no name OOC foe. I don't really see how he would have been picked under the circumstances

 

[hdhntr1]

Please, not another year of QB's running for their lives.

OL needs to start proving it self

 

[stpaulcat]

OL needs to start proving it self

There you go! Why do people continue to say we need a mobile QB because of the our type of offense? What they may mean is because of our insufficient offensive line, which some say is being improved by Anderson. When will we see that offensive line we keep hoping for? A Mobile QB offers options a statue doesn't, and I agree is desirable at NU, although not to compensate for poor Offensive line play.

 

[corbi296]

There you go! Why do people continue to say we need a mobile QB because of the our type of offense? What they may mean is because of our insufficient offensive line, which some say is being improved by Anderson. When will we see that offensive line we keep hoping for? A Mobile QB offers options a statue doesn't, and I agree is desirable at NU, although not to compensate for poor Offensive line play.

It's not just about the OL. A mobile QB who can make plays off schedule helps the running backs be more effective and also gives the WRs/TE's more chances to make plays. Not to mention that it should also result in higher times of possession which helps the defense stay off the field and makes them more rested when they are on it. It just helps the entire team a lot. The kid we are recruiting this year, QB Aidan Glover, is the ideal QB recruit for us. From the sounds of things, we have a really good shot to get good news from him soon.

 

[hdhntr1]

There you go! Why do people continue to say we need a mobile QB because of the our type of offense? What they may mean is because of our insufficient offensive line, which some say is being improved by Anderson. When will we see that offensive line we keep hoping for? A Mobile QB offers options a statue doesn't, and I agree is desirable at NU, although not to compensate for poor Offensive line play.

A mobile QB adds a dimension and we are generally at the lower end of the conference in talent of our skill positions. Harder for our receivers to get separation so the added threat of the QB run makes the D account for more and allows different throwing angles as well. If we have more of a statue back there, our OL doesn't have to be just average but dignificantly better than average for us to succeed as we are often more limited in other weapons.

Even the best college programs often like to have mobile QBs because of the added dimension that it offers. Fields came out of dOSU for example

 

[hdhntr1]

It's not just about the OL. A mobile QB who can make plays off schedule helps the running backs be more effective and also gives the WRs/TE's more chances to make plays. Not to mention that it should also result in higher times of possession which helps the defense stay off the field and makes them more rested when they are on it. It just helps the entire team a lot. The kid we are recruiting this year, QB Aidan Glover, is the ideal QB recruit for us. From the sounds of things, we have a really good shot to get good news from him soon.

Of course we then have to be able to keep him as well

 

[Katatonic]

It's not just about the OL. A mobile QB who can make plays off schedule helps the running backs be more effective and also gives the WRs/TE's more chances to make plays. Not to mention that it should also result in higher times of possession which helps the defense stay off the field and makes them more rested when they are on it. It just helps the entire team a lot. The kid we are recruiting this year, QB Aidan Glover, is the ideal QB recruit for us. From the sounds of things, we have a really good shot to get good news from him soon.

Again, depends on what you mean by "mobile QB" - a "running QB" as opposed to a QB who uses his legs to extend passing plays, or in the rare occasion, a QB (like Persa) who could do both.

It's not exactly like McC and Fitz had Kafka and Thorson run the ball a lot once they had a better command of the O, or used Siemian's scrambling ability (pretty much just used it in the 4th Q of the M00N game, which was too late to secure the comeback).

A big disappointment was never developing Thorson as a QB who could extend passing plays.

A mobile QB adds a dimension and we are generally at the lower end of the conference in talent of our skill positions. Harder for our receivers to get separation so the added threat of the QB run makes the D account for more and allows different throwing angles as well. If we have more of a statue back there, our OL doesn't have to be just average but dignificantly better than average for us to succeed as we are often more limited in other weapons.

Even the best college programs often like to have mobile QBs because of the added dimension that it offers. Fields came out of dOSU for example

Except Fields wasn't exactly known for his running ability during his time at dOSU (unlike the past season for the Bears, or Denard Robinson for the Wolverines); didn't need to since he had the O-line and weapons to sit in the pocket.

 

[hdhntr1]

Again, depends on what you mean by "mobile QB" - a "running QB" as opposed to a QB who uses his legs to extend passing plays, or in the rare occasion, a QB (like Persa) who could do both.

It's not exactly like McC and Fitz had Kafka and Thorson run the ball a lot once they had a better command of the O, or used Siemian's scrambling ability (pretty much just used it in the 4th Q of the M00N game, which was too late to secure the comeback).

A big disappointment was never developing Thorson as a QB who could extend passing plays.






Except Fields wasn't exactly known for his running ability during his time at dOSU (unlike the past season for the Bears, or Denard Robinson for the Wolverines); didn't need to since he had the O-line and weapons to sit in the pocket.

It was pretty well known that he had the ability and it was always a threat. And again it is not just running the ball but mobility in the pocket giving extra time and angles and knowing when to move and to where