Yep. Princeton ran a single-wing formation and their fullback was Cosmo Iaccovazzi, best football name ever.Princeton was ranked #13 in the final coaches' poll for the 1964 season.
Yep. Princeton ran a single-wing formation and their fullback was Cosmo Iaccovazzi, best football name ever.Princeton was ranked #13 in the final coaches' poll for the 1964 season.
I think I'm at the same place as you are on this.I don't think Fitz has changed, but I think the times have changed. Sometimes people are a victim of their own success. Fitz built on the success of Gary Barnett and coach Randy Walker. Gary Barnett pulled NU out of the dark ages and won Big Ten titles. Randy Walker showed that NU could have down years and come back and added another title. Fitz brought continued competitiveness, regular bowl games, and bowl titles and division titles. 30 years ago 3-8 or 3-9 would have been an OK year, but now that is a disappointing year. Expectations have been upgraded. In our down years we now expect overall records at or near .500 at a minimum. We are disappointed to miss a bowl game at 4-8 or 5-7 but expect improvement the next year. Sinking to a double digit loss year now, specially after a 3-9 year, would be an anathema and clear sign the wholesale change is needed, but the angst now is there does not seem to be an indication from Fitz that major changes will be made. And now, NU has invested a large amount upgrading its facilities and is targeting to upgrade its stadium and is now part of a Big Ten that is expanding and eyeing becoming an even more competitive "Bigger Ten" conference and there does not seem to be a sense of urgency about making the program more competitive. Maybe there is not an understanding by Fitz and his advisors that continued loses to mediocre FCS and MAC teams is just not cutting it. Fans need to be put in the stands and earnest efforts to develop competitive exciting offenses, along with tough defenses need to be undertaken. The Tresselball experiment has run its course at NU.
The problem isn't that Fitz didn't take the games seriously. The problem is that those teams are better than ours. Better athletes? Probably not. Better team/coaching? SurelyI think I'm at the same place as you are on this.
Fitz's philosophy worked until 2020. It worked while Hank was here.
It no longer works and there's no sign that it can work moving forwards. That's partially why so many of us are down on the status of the program. There's no going back to the success we enjoyed previously under the current iteration of the coaching staff; Hank ain't walking through that door.
It's better to realize that in year 2 of the downtrend than in year 5 or 6. We don't want to go through 5 or 6 years of this.
If we go 1-11 as expected, there has to be wholesale changes in this program because we're staring at the abyss with no way out...
Big Ten is adding USC and UCLA, two teams that are undefeated as of now. One of which recruits at the same level as Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State and another that recruits just below that.
The conference schedule will only get tougher when the Big Ten West goes away and we face Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State/USC/UCLA a lot. We need to be beating the SIUs, Miamis of Ohio, and Dukes if we want to get bowl eligible. Fitz can't just treat them as another game; they're often a half of the games we're favored in and it's often too difficult to get to 6 wins without all of those 3. Losing against all 3? Worst season in the modern history of the program.
Agreed and that's the biggest problem of all.The problem isn't that Fitz didn't take the games seriously. The problem is that those teams are better than ours. Better athletes? Probably not. Better team/coaching? Surely
Absolutely. It’s more concerning that Fitz doesn’t know why the players are not executing, if he thinks everything is clicking in practice, and that the coordinators are calling good plays on game day, something is very wrong about the coaching. If most of the players, who are legitimate FBS athletes who were offered by many other FBS teams, look like they are struggling with even the fundamentals of football on game day.Agreed and that's the biggest problem of all.
When you're favored on paper against 3 teams with 2 of those against teams that should be at a talent deficit and lose all 3 games, it's a coaching problem.
We are basically. 500 v Wisconsin since like 1985. We compete against Wisconsin. Getting embarrassed by this mediocre, coachless version shows how bad it is, like the Neb thrashing last yearAbsolutely. It’s more concerning that Fitz doesn’t know why the players are not executing, if he thinks everything is clicking in practice, and that the coordinators are calling good plays on game day, something is very wrong about the coaching. If most of the players, who are legitimate FBS athletes who were offered by many other FBS teams, look like they are struggling with even the fundamentals of football on game day.
You let the Cat out of the cradle.Let's put this all in perspective.
NU has more all-time losses than every other program save Indiana (which has done well at least in basketball). 686 miserable losses. The Dark Ages doesn't account for all that futility. Up until Gary Barnett, the 133 year-old program only broke .500 about 1/3 of the time. And this "stat-for-losers" includes all those rosy early decades against suspect competition such as local high school teams and glorified drinking clubs. Indeed, NU was the worst all-time winning percentage of any program of recognition or note (with Indiana again the exception). As for the 27-year Golden Age of Wildcat Football, the trio of Barnett, Walker, and Fitz has produced 13 winning seasons, which is considered mediocrity in certain precincts.
The unmistakable conclusion from this perspective: it's harder to win here than everywhere else. We all have our own theories why this is so. Great coaches have tried their hands at it, failed, and then went on to great acclaim coaching elsewhere. Great players have competed wearing the purple, only knew futility at NU, and then went on to HOF careers in the NFL (heck, even Otto Graham had a losing record at NU). Facilities and renovations are great, but their value seems to diminish in almost the same manner as when you drive that new car off the dealer's lot.
To me this suggests that Fitzgerald is afforded a very low margin of error. Is that unfair? Yes and I had been a Fitz fan for the whole body of work. He signed up for the job and is being paid handsomely for it. A bad hire, misplaced loyalty to something other than the program, or a slight breather from all the accumulated intensity of the years puts us into the position that we now confront.
I would agree with a lot of your points, but there's two critical differences now that should mean that things can be different here compared to before.Let's put this all in perspective.
NU has more all-time losses than every other program save Indiana (which has done well at least in basketball). 686 miserable losses. The Dark Ages doesn't account for all that futility. Up until Gary Barnett, the 133 year-old program only broke .500 about 1/3 of the time. And this "stat-for-losers" includes all those rosy early decades against suspect competition such as local high school teams and glorified drinking clubs. Indeed, NU was the worst all-time winning percentage of any program of recognition or note (with Indiana again the exception). As for the 27-year Golden Age of Wildcat Football, the trio of Barnett, Walker, and Fitz has produced 13 winning seasons, which is considered mediocrity in certain precincts.
The unmistakable conclusion from this perspective: it's harder to win here than everywhere else. We all have our own theories why this is so. Great coaches have tried their hands at it, failed, and then went on to great acclaim coaching elsewhere. Great players have competed wearing the purple, only knew futility at NU, and then went on to HOF careers in the NFL (heck, even Otto Graham had a losing record at NU). Facilities and renovations are great, but their value seems to diminish in almost the same manner as when you drive that new car off the dealer's lot.
To me this suggests that Fitzgerald is afforded a very low margin of error. Is that unfair? Yes and I had been a Fitz fan for the whole body of work. He signed up for the job and is being paid handsomely for it. A bad hire, misplaced loyalty to something other than the program, or a slight breather from all the accumulated intensity of the years puts us into the position that we now confront.
I'm as interested in what has happened to Fitz in the past few years as in what's happening to the football team. Not keeping up with the game? Too comfortable now that he apparently has it made? Lost interest in coaching? Poor judge of coaching ability? Nothing, same old Fitz? People have posted various theories, but I thought to get it all in on place might be informative.
A man of few words. except when you are not.Hank retired.
Anything from the last century is ancient history. Only old fossils like us pay attention. We have a respectable record against all but the three big dogs since 95.Let's put this all in perspective.
NU has more all-time losses than every other program save Indiana (which has done well at least in basketball). 686 miserable losses. The Dark Ages doesn't account for all that futility. Up until Gary Barnett, the 133 year-old program only broke .500 about 1/3 of the time. And this "stat-for-losers" includes all those rosy early decades against suspect competition such as local high school teams and glorified drinking clubs. Indeed, NU was the worst all-time winning percentage of any program of recognition or note (with Indiana again the exception). As for the 27-year Golden Age of Wildcat Football, the trio of Barnett, Walker, and Fitz has produced 13 winning seasons, which is considered mediocrity in certain precincts.
The unmistakable conclusion from this perspective: it's harder to win here than everywhere else. We all have our own theories why this is so. Great coaches have tried their hands at it, failed, and then went on to great acclaim coaching elsewhere. Great players have competed wearing the purple, only knew futility at NU, and then went on to HOF careers in the NFL (heck, even Otto Graham had a losing record at NU). Facilities and renovations are great, but their value seems to diminish in almost the same manner as when you drive that new car off the dealer's lot.
To me this suggests that Fitzgerald is afforded a very low margin of error. Is that unfair? Yes and I had been a Fitz fan for the whole body of work. He signed up for the job and is being paid handsomely for it. A bad hire, misplaced loyalty to something other than the program, or a slight breather from all the accumulated intensity of the years puts us into the position that we now confront.