NU went back to Nicholson to start the OT and I recall he was yanked pretty quickly. Rightfully or wrongfully, I don’t know.
What is it about Penn State?
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I, for one, cannot believe the refs did that to IU! Again!
It's hard because MN does not have the best hands yet. He is starting to do a great job on lob but still has some issues with certain passes. We are a guard oriented O and more outside in than inside out
I’m not with you that CCC lost the OT though…
I completely agree that he should have stayed large and just waited for shots to fall. I thought the Boo, Chase, BB, Mart, MN lineup was the way. That one should have followed shots on both boards and ruled the rebounds. MN would keep picketts butt out of the paint.
But game is over. BTT is not the main objective. Dance time. Guards rule. We have two of the best.
Oh boy - here go with blaming the players cuz they suck and admissions. I suppose there was a talent difference against Purdue too? And both times v Indiana?
Maybe you are suggesting that our wins were lucky because we were an inferior team? Did admissions have a seat on the bench too?
This is my big complaint. Just be consistent. If they athletes suck in the losses, then it’s only about the athletes in the wins. Can’t be their fault in the losses and all CCC when they win. And ultimately, CCC is head coach and general manager. Responsible for every element of the MBB program. Unless you are talking about a freak injury - guy breaks a leg or something - the buck should always start and stop with CCC.
I am saying as well as we have played as a team (especially on D), sometimes that is just not enough. PSU not only has talent but super senior laden talent. And they too have been playing very well together, especially as of late. Add that UC is reputed to be a very tough venue to shoot in, especially for teams that have not played there.
For coaching, the question is, have they put them in a position to win. If they haven't you can blame the coaches, But if they do then they have done their job. Then it falls to execution by the players. When the players are shooting less than 32% on open shots, hard to blame the coaches much for that. And sometimes you do the right things and just don't get the win
I hear what you're saying, but on the whole, the OT loss to State Penn was not because we couldn't stop them but more due to our guys not being able to finish around the rim, especially early in the game. Matt, Beran, Berry, even Boo had chances at the rim but couldn't get the ball to fall through. It was concerning to watch and it came back to haunt us. I can't really blame CC for that.
We had 15 shots more than them but hit the same number of shots (meaning that we were missing a lot). They also generally only get to the line about 10 times per game and FRI they got there 29 times. We were only 15/42 from 2 pt range. A lot of missed layups. (they were 14/31) Basically they were shooting 10% higher from both areas 45-35 from 2 and 35-25 from 3). We allowed them to get to the line too many times. Change any of those things and it is a win
Well, doesn’t look like Purdue chose to go small today, fearing those PSU guards 🤷♂️
I’m w PWB - you have proven you are good, your D is suffocating. No reason to change the secret sauce.
Difference between Purdue and Northwestern bigs is that Purdues can score in the post. Also Purdues big is one of the best in country. Defense wasn’t the issue against PSU. Offense was.
I agree except the way lineups were used. MN was never in foul trouble. I haven’t seen the +\- yet but curious how the larger lineups fared.
I think VH and Mart can score in the paint. I also think MN can impact scoring on both ends and could have inhaled all the rebounds. And the only calls we seemed to get were against the PSU bigs.
Stay large, swamp the boards on both ends and let PSU foul themselves in oblivion.
Who knows. Dance time. Hope we can get it together and do some damage.
Martinelli is a true freshman and would struggle in the post against players with B1G experience and weight room time. TVH has shown some touch but it’s not consistent and MN has shown none. None of these players dump the ball down and let them work. The two players who play with their back to basket the best are Barnhizer and Audige. The paint scores from both MN and TVH are created by Buie. If Buie gets doubled and can’t penetrate then looks are not created for them.
GODDAMMIT PWB DID YOU JUST SHIRK YOUR PLUS-MINUS DUTIES OR WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Who said dump the ball every time down. I’ve focused on the rebounding advantages and Pickett. We have not practiced the dump in but use the screen a lot. And I recall seeing those opps also come from Chase and Berry.
We were also giving up the rebound too early IMHO.
My brother, a Penn State alum, and I were baffled by Painter's moves down the stretch. Why on earth would you have Edey out of the game with under two minutes to play? One of the dumbest coaching moves I've seen in years. It made no sense whatsoever. And this is the guy who Purdue fans have been telling me online should have been Coach of the Year over Collins.
I was flipping between that game and the UH-Memphis one, and I actually did a quick Google search at the end to see if Edey had gotten hurt and I had missed it. Painter must have thought that the game was over when they were up by double digits late.
If you're going to call me delusional, you need to make a reasonable argument from time to time.
We have had better talent than Penn State for the last 2 seasons.
Shrewsbury is a much better coach than Collins when it comes to playing the game.
Thats why they have beaten us the last 4.
PSU wants to score from outside. They stick to the plan.
We don't know what we want to do and usually play into our opponents strengths.
Look, they are a Sr and Super Senior loaded team. They are the oldest team, not just in the BIG but in the NCAA. They have 8 Srs on the roster and a lot came through the portal. We have no one the equal of Picket. Would you rather have Behran and Berry shooting threes or Lundy, Winter and Funk? Add in Dread and a lot of minutes to Srs. And while they don't really have a center, we do not gain that much of an advantage as they are so much from outside. We have no real advantage against them. All in all a tough matchup. It also did not help when we had to play them when they started getting it all together and getting on a run. Both our games against them were in the middle of their run. And they did not just beat us during that time but a lot of other teams as well and they almost came back against Purdue in their 4th game in 4 days.
We did well to keep them down on scoring but offensively we just do not have the horses. Sure did not help to have everyone having off days offensively at the same time.
They may have our number, but it isnt because of talent.
We were 12-7 against everybody else during the regular season. They were 9-10.
We have better players overall and should have beaten them twice.
Pickett was first team Big Ten. So was Buie. I'd take Pickett.
Lundy was 2nd team, so was Audige. I'd take Lundy.
Audige can guard Pickett.
Barnhizer is as good or better than Funk.
Beran is as good or better than Dread.
Nicholson is better than Njie.
Verhoeven is as good or better than the chunky white guy (Henn).
Berry is as good or better than Wynter.
Martinelli is better than anybody else on their bench.
Our offense was too perimeter oriented, which is not our strength. Their offense was perimeter-oriented, which is their strength (and our weakness) but they won in part because our least efficient scorers took too many shots and in part because we failed to capitalize on our advantage in the post.
I'm saying we should have taken them down into the paint and killed them on the offensive boards.
Nicholson only played 11 minutes in the first loss.
Beran played the 5 for 11 of the last 13 minutes in the 2nd loss. He played well enough, but it was a small ball approach.
Yeah, but come on!!Why are we doing this two days before our NCAA tourney game?
GOOD VIBES ONLY!
PWB and me having a debate...
We can beat them that way too, but it just makes it riskier.Are we allowed to be concerned we will play small ball against a small Boise State team?
I don't see how discussing our team's strengths and weaknesses is "negative."
Unless Coach Collins is also negative when he tells everybody how imperfect our team is.
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