NU was playing with the backup QB and hadn't scored any offensive points in the entire second half of the game. Seems like going for two was actually the dumbest coaching call of the game.
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The Kentucky fans have been saying that their quarterback was gimpy and they were worried due to our experience with OT this year.NU was playing with the backup QB and hadn't scored any offensive points in the entire second half of the game. Seems like going for two was actually the dumbest coaching call of the game.
They made the right call. They didn't really have consistent offense, and we still had a running game and a better defense.NU was playing with the backup QB and hadn't scored any offensive points in the entire second half of the game. Seems like going for two was actually the dumbest coaching call of the game.
And going into OT with a qb that has already thrown 2 interceptions against a team that is running well. Makes sense.They made the right call. They didn't really have consistent offense, and we still had a running game and a better defense.
And we're a pretty composed team given our success in OT this season.
Most of the UK fan base supported the call to go for 2. Our lack of any semblance of a rushing attack, combined the defense general inability to stop the run the entire made OT a dicey proposition. Our game probably had the most drama of any bowl game not played in Pasadena.
ukalum, have a question i’ll get to. First, Snell being tossed was ridiculous. More ridiculous even than Fisher being thrown out. But something the announcers touched upon, in talking about your LB Jones in particular, was the personal fouls he’s racked up this year. The one where he hit our RB in the head after the play was unbelievably stupid. I'm not the one you asked but yes. Jones has been a hot head all year. The guy just has a high motor that never stops. He's always running his mouth and being warned by officials. If he doesn't compose himself they will have to do something with him next year. I'm not sure they were keying in on that at the start but it's possible. I shake my head everytime He gets a tackle because we usually know what's going to happen next.
Do your fans think at all the quick trigger on Snell, and the one on the sideline after your qb went down, could have been based on officials already being keyed up, looking for sportsmanship penalties from Kentucky based on reputation? I don’t know your history or prevalence of sportsmanship penalties from your group other than what the announcers said about Jones. ‘Reputation’ may be a completely inappropriate word. But the triggers just seemed so quick, like after a coach bitches about holding for a while, the refs start looking for it and invariably find it.
Wondering the UK perspective on this.
Hated that staff during recruiting and hated that staff during the game. A team of undisciplined thugs just like their coach. Would have been extremely upset if we lost to them.. But I said they should go for two before they made the choice. It was the right call.Agree with all the above. Good call by Stoops.
After watching the replay upon returning from Nashville, I changed my impression of Kentucky and Stoops. The players were chippy and mouthy at the start - SEC arrogance probably - but Stoops, the coaching staff and their players (at least after the game) - were first rate. The fans I spoke to were also great.
You've given me a lot to work with here.....ukalum, have a question i’ll get to. First, Snell being tossed was ridiculous. More ridiculous even than Fisher being thrown out. But something the announcers touched upon, in talking about your LB Jones in particular, was the personal fouls he’s racked up this year. The one where he hit our RB in the head after the play was unbelievably stupid.
Do your fans think at all the quick trigger on Snell, and the one on the sideline after your qb went down, could have been based on officials already being keyed up, looking for sportsmanship penalties from Kentucky based on reputation? I don’t know your history or prevalence of sportsmanship penalties from your group other than what the announcers said about Jones. ‘Reputation’ may be a completely inappropriate word. But the triggers just seemed so quick, like after a coach bitches about holding for a while, the refs start looking for it and invariably find it.
Wondering the UK perspective on this.
You've given me a lot to work with here.....
I think we all agree the officiating was atrocious. No way should Snell or Fisher have been disqualified. One other no-call that sticks in UK fans craw was our QB Stephen Johnson getting tackled out of bounds. Not only did we not get that call, we got a flag for bitching about the no-call. That whole crew should be fired, but we know that's not going to happen.
It would be fair to say that a lot of UK fans have grown weary of J Jones' on-field antics. I remember a play from the game where he tackled your RB after a 6-7 yard gain, and he started woofing like he'd made a game-saving play. It was embarrassing to see. The play you mention is another example.
Apart from Jones, I don't think very many UK players have a reputation that refs are going to be on the lookout for. I just think this particular PAC-12 crew was incompetent.
Agree about the refs, but Gaziano's tackle of Johnson out of bounds was not a late hit IMO, he had momentum from well in bounds on top of Johnson and there is no way he could have stopped. Really unfortunate about Snell--would have loved to see the game completed with all players who went out, in the entire game, including Johnson.You've given me a lot to work with here.....
I think we all agree the officiating was atrocious. No way should Snell or Fisher have been disqualified. One other no-call that sticks in UK fans craw was our QB Stephen Johnson getting tackled out of bounds. Not only did we not get that call, we got a flag for bitching about the no-call. That whole crew should be fired, but we know that's not going to happen.
It would be fair to say that a lot of UK fans have grown weary of J Jones' on-field antics. I remember a play from the game where he tackled your RB after a 6-7 yard gain, and he started woofing like he'd made a game-saving play. It was embarrassing to see. The play you mention is another example.
Apart from Jones, I don't think very many UK players have a reputation that refs are going to be on the lookout for. I just think this particular PAC-12 crew was incompetent.
Agree about the refs, but Gaziano's tackle of Johnson out of bounds was not a late hit IMO, he had momentum from well in bounds on top of Johnson and there is no way he could have stopped. Really unfortunate about Snell--would have loved to see the game completed with all players who went out, in the entire game, including Johnson.
I was expecting a call against Gaziano on that play - an unfortunate call. I immediately looked at it a few times, and thought it was on the edge but clean.The contact was initiated in-bounds and looked like Gaziano actually pulled up somewhat instead of driving his whole weight down on Johnson. Definitely a "gray area" play, but not sure what more Gaziano could have done.
It looked to me that Gaz was trying to slide down SJ's torso as they were heading out of bounds, as if Gaz was trying to lower his center of gravity. Maybe SJ was already headed down at that point. Gaz probably has close to 100 pounds on him. But it sure as heck looked like he was trying to let up.The contact was initiated in-bounds and looked like Gaziano actually pulled up somewhat instead of driving his whole weight down on Johnson. Definitely a "gray area" play, but not sure what more Gaziano could have done.
The first personal foul of the game was called against us.Agree on the quality of the officiating. Just wondering why Kentucky was so singled out for sportsmanship, seemingly from the get go. We see far less of what causes the infractions from the stands or via TV, so didn’t know how justified those calls were. Thanks.
The first personal foul of the game was called against us.
I concur that the officials were not competent.