Will the new stadium at least help recruiting?

[DocCat2]

I know people have mixed feelings about getting a new stadium.

Right now our program just doesn't seem to have any talent. I assume we will continue to suffer serious talent deficit the next few seasons and have losing records. Will a new stadium draw better players?

 

[CoralSpringsCat]

I know people have mixed feelings about getting a new stadium.

Right now our program just doesn't seem to have any talent. I assume we will continue to suffer serious talent deficit the next few seasons and have losing records. Will a new stadium draw better players?

Yes.

 

[zeek55]

Obviously yes, but the reality is also that next year we (and the rest of the Power programs) are going to start being able to pay players directly and that + NIL will likely be the biggest contributors to obtaining talent.

Next year, schools will start disbursing $20+ million in NIL directly to athletes.

That's where the top talent recruiting battles will be won/lost.

 

[FanatiCat]

Obviously yes, but the reality is also that next year we (and the rest of the Power programs) are going to start being able to pay players directly and that + NIL will likely be the biggest contributors to obtaining talent.

Next year, schools will start disbursing $20+ million in NIL directly to athletes.

That's where the top talent recruiting battles will be won/lost.

I’m not quite understanding, where does that $ come from? Is there just a rule now that says schools can do this directly? I don’t know how that’s going to go for NU - I’m skeptical that it will mean magically millions of dollars for FB players. We get Lot of conference revenue sharing $ but (I assume) it’s already 100% being used for other things, so what’s going to give?

 

[zeek55]

I’m not quite understanding, where does that $ come from? Is there just a rule now that says schools can do this directly? I don’t know how that’s going to go for NU - I’m skeptical that it will mean magically millions of dollars for FB players. We get Lot of conference revenue sharing $ but (I assume) it’s already 100% being used for other things, so what’s going to give?

The current rule is that schools can't pay players. The House settlement mandates that programs be allowed to over up to $20+ million per year from revenue to athletes by 2025-26 FB season.

It's going to be paid by the AD out of revenue, and the fortunate thing for Big Ten programs is that the way the TV contract and 12 team playoff payouts are designed, we're going to see a distribution bump over the next 2 seasons that's something close to $20+ million per year from conference distributions.

So for Big Ten teams, this will actually be relatively seamless. We won't have to dig around for extra money:

We're going to go from getting a Big Ten distribution around $60-65 million per year in 2023 to somewhere around $80-85 million per year by 2026. So it's more about managing how we pay the players that extra revenue coming into the program than finding the revenue. The TV deal + CFP payout increase to the Big Ten will cover the players for the most part.

SEC teams are in a somewhat similar situation as well with their new TV deal kicking in this year and the higher per team payout that we and them get from the 12 team playoff boosting their conference distributions.

For everyone else, they'll probably have to try to portion off some of their budget and might have to make cuts somewhere else. For Big Ten/SEC programs, it will be much easier to absorb.

 

[techtim72]

The current rule is that schools can't pay players. The House settlement mandates that programs be allowed to over up to $20+ million per year from revenue to athletes by 2025-26 FB season.

It's going to be paid by the AD out of revenue, and the fortunate thing for Big Ten programs is that the way the TV contract and 12 team playoff payouts are designed, we're going to see a distribution bump over the next 2 seasons that's something close to $20+ million per year from conference distributions.

So for Big Ten teams, this will actually be relatively seamless. We won't have to dig around for extra money:

We're going to go from getting a Big Ten distribution around $60-65 million per year in 2023 to somewhere around $80-85 million per year by 2026. So it's more about managing how we pay the players that extra revenue coming into the program than finding the revenue. The TV deal + CFP payout increase to the Big Ten will cover the players for the most part.

SEC teams are in a somewhat similar situation as well with their new TV deal kicking in this year and the higher per team payout that we and them get from the 12 team playoff boosting their conference distributions.

For everyone else, they'll probably have to try to portion off some of their budget and might have to make cuts somewhere else. For Big Ten/SEC programs, it will be much easier to absorb.

I don't know what the $20 mil funding is being called but it is separate from NIL. It is also to be used for all sports as the school prefers and likely as dictated by Title IX and equity concerns. Since, for example, Ohio State football players are reportedly being paid $20 mil in NIL, any funds available from the new $20 mil fund will be in addition.

This $20 mil is intended to address various legal concerns but it isn't an end all to the money wars. You have to feel for the University of Kansas' of the world that want to compete with the Big Ten and SEC teams for talent but don't have $20 mil coming in from a TV contract.

 

[zeek55]

I don't know what the $20 mil funding is being called but it is separate from NIL. It is also to be used for all sports as the school prefers and likely as dictated by Title IX and equity concerns. Since, for example, Ohio State football players are reported being paid $20 mil in NIL, any funds available from the new $20 mil fund will be in addition.

This $20 mil is intended to address various legal concerns but it isn't an end all to the money wars. You have to feel for the University of Kansas' of the world that want to compete with the Big Ten and SEC teams for talent but don't have $20 mil coming in from a TV contract.

Correct, it's just going to be a lot harder for everybody else because the Big Ten/SEC already have revenue bumps (from new TV deals + CFP increased payouts - Big Ten/SEC are taking near 60% of the CFP revenue for just themselves which is jumping a lot from 4 team to 12 team) coming along that roughly match what they'll pay out directly while everyone else will have to make actual cuts elsewhere to find the revenue.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

I know people have mixed feelings about getting a new stadium.

Right now our program just doesn't seem to have any talent. I assume we will continue to suffer serious talent deficit the next few seasons and have losing records. Will a new stadium draw better players?

Yes.

 

[Jaguar 88]

Yes.

When players ask what helped bring them into a certain program, facilities are at the bottom of the list. The new stadium might help out a bit, but not much. We are talking about 17 year old boys. Getting laid at recruiting functions actually scored higher when ESPN did an article about it, asking young NFL players what factors helped them decide where to go. They quoted some guys from the B1G. The responses were to be anticipated since they were teens at the time.

 

[hdhntr1]

I don't know what the $20 mil funding is being called but it is separate from NIL. It is also to be used for all sports as the school prefers and likely as dictated by Title IX and equity concerns. Since, for example, Ohio State football players are reportedly being paid $20 mil in NIL, any funds available from the new $20 mil fund will be in addition.

This $20 mil is intended to address various legal concerns but it isn't an end all to the money wars. You have to feel for the University of Kansas' of the world that want to compete with the Big Ten and SEC teams for talent but don't have $20 mil coming in from a TV contract.

The dOSU MICH Oregons of the world will still be able to pay more. But at least we should have something to offer

 

[phatcat]

. Will a new stadium draw better players?

Sure, just like the practice facility /s.

NU is living in the recent past, when a facility arms race made a difference. What we need is a fully funded NIL and a way to get transfers through normal admissions, e

 

[zeek55]

The dOSU MICH Oregons of the world will still be able to pay more. But at least we should have something to offer

It's mainly about being able to outbid the Stanford's and Duke's and other schools that we compete with directly for talent.

I think given we'll have Big Ten payouts, we should be able to outpay a lot of those types of schools esp those in the ACC or Big 12 that might struggle more to put together the $20+ million in AD directed player payments.

A lot easier for us given we're getting roughly $20 million extra from the conference distribution in 2026 compared to 2023 (just divert that extra money towards players and treat the rest of the budget the same). For ACC/Big 12 schools, they might be seeing something closer to a $6 million to $7 million increase in 2026 compared to 2023, so they'll have to come up with most of the rest of the money by taking from the rest of the budget.

And for Stanford who basically is giving back a big chunk of their media payment to the ACC for the first bunch of years that they're in the ACC, they're likely to see way tighter budgets.

It's not going to be easy given we're in a far more difficult league with a ton of big spenders than the ACC or Big 12 schools, but our advantage is getting $80+ million per year directly from the conference compared to those ACC/Big 12 schools getting closer to 50% of that level of distribution, we have to take advantage of that huge financial differential as it enables us to pay full payments to players much more easily.

And of course, the new stadium will generate far more revenue than old Ryan Field was generating..., so that should be another consideration.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

It's mainly about being able to outbid the Stanford's and Duke's and other schools that we compete with directly for talent.

I think given we'll have Big Ten payouts, we should be able to outpay a lot of those types of schools esp those in the ACC or Big 12 that might struggle more to put together the $20+ million in AD directed player payments.

A lot easier for us given we're getting roughly $20 million extra from the conference distribution in 2026 compared to 2023 (just divert that extra money towards players and treat the rest of the budget the same). For ACC/Big 12 schools, they might be seeing something closer to a $6 million to $7 million increase in 2026 compared to 2023, so they'll have to come up with most of the rest of the money by taking from the rest of the budget.

And for Stanford who basically is giving back a big chunk of their media payment to the ACC for the first bunch of years that they're in the ACC, they're likely to see way tighter budgets.

It's not going to be easy given we're in a far more difficult league with a ton of big spenders than the ACC or Big 12 schools, but our advantage is getting $80+ million per year directly from the conference compared to those ACC/Big 12 schools getting closer to 50% of that level of distribution, we have to take advantage of that huge financial differential as it enables us to pay full payments to players much more easily.

And of course, the new stadium will generate far more revenue than old Ryan Field was generating..., so that should be another consideration.

Exactly what I have been harping on for months. We have no excuses to get worse. There is enough money to “buy” a competitive team. We aren’t sitting at the table in the high stakes games for players like Bryce Underwood. Never have been. Stay in your lane. This is an institutional decision to make adjustments to get better or punt the program back to the dark ages. If we don’t see some fairly quick changes under the Jackson regime we are in big trouble.

 

[julescat]

It's mainly about being able to outbid the Stanford's and Duke's and other schools that we compete with directly for talent.

I think given we'll have Big Ten payouts, we should be able to outpay a lot of those types of schools esp those in the ACC or Big 12 that might struggle more to put together the $20+ million in AD directed player payments.

A lot easier for us given we're getting roughly $20 million extra from the conference distribution in 2026 compared to 2023 (just divert that extra money towards players and treat the rest of the budget the same). For ACC/Big 12 schools, they might be seeing something closer to a $6 million to $7 million increase in 2026 compared to 2023, so they'll have to come up with most of the rest of the money by taking from the rest of the budget.

And for Stanford who basically is giving back a big chunk of their media payment to the ACC for the first bunch of years that they're in the ACC, they're likely to see way tighter budgets.

It's not going to be easy given we're in a far more difficult league with a ton of big spenders than the ACC or Big 12 schools, but our advantage is getting $80+ million per year directly from the conference compared to those ACC/Big 12 schools getting closer to 50% of that level of distribution, we have to take advantage of that huge financial differential as it enables us to pay full payments to players much more easily.

And of course, the new stadium will generate far more revenue than old Ryan Field was generating..., so that should be another consideration.

That expected increase in revenue from new stadium will not be going to NU...