Wiscy RB denied admission....

[CoralSpringsCat]

Dallas, TX 4-star RB Jordan Steveson has been denied admission as per UW Chancellor. He has been given his release and is now free to sign with any team for the upcoming season. Tough break right before fall report dates...guess Gary Anderson knew what he was talking about when he complained about the admissions process in Madtown.

 

[Deeringfish]

Dallas, TX 4-star RB Jordan Steveson has been denied admission as per UW Chancellor. He has been given his release and is now free to sign with any team for the upcoming season. Tough break right before fall report dates...guess Gary Anderson knew what he was talking about when he complained about the admissions process in Madtown.

I don't really follow Wisconsin recruiting but I'm not getting that dominant vibe out of Madison this year.

 

[GECat2]

Boo Hoo Boo Hoo for Gary Anderson!! Life is sooooo hard when it comes to recruiting for Wisconsin football. Waaaaaaahhhh!!!!!!

 

[Sheffielder]

With full acknowledgement that it's none of my business, I'd love to know the details on a case like this. After all, we're going into the fall, this kid graduated from high school (right?), on one hand it seems unfair to pull the rug out from underneath this kid but on the other hand, I have to assume that UW Admissions set reasonable standards for this kid to meet, and he didn't (right?)

What's frightening/sad/not surprising to me is the general reaction from the Badger fanbase....it's basically f*ck admissions. That's the spirit.

 

[Deeringfish]

Dallas, TX 4-star RB Jordan Steveson has been denied admission as per UW Chancellor. He has been given his release and is now free to sign with any team for the upcoming season. Tough break right before fall report dates...guess Gary Anderson knew what he was talking about when he complained about the admissions process in Madtown.

I don't really follow Wisconsin recruiting but I'm not getting that dominant vibe out of Madison this year.

With full acknowledgement that it's none of my business, I'd love to know the details on a case like this. After all, we're going into the fall, this kid graduated from high school (right?), on one hand it seems unfair to pull the rug out from underneath this kid but on the other hand, I have to assume that UW Admissions set reasonable standards for this kid to meet, and he didn't (right?)

What's frightening/sad/not surprising to me is the general reaction from the Badger fanbase....it's basically f*ck admissions. That's the spirit.

If I had to guess, the new coach is not adjusting well to having to follow admission standards of any kind and admissions is putting it's foot down. Good for them. Wisconsin has an avid fan base but is not as lost as an institution as some when it comes to football.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

With full acknowledgement that it's none of my business, I'd love to know the details on a case like this. After all, we're going into the fall, this kid graduated from high school (right?), on one hand it seems unfair to pull the rug out from underneath this kid but on the other hand, I have to assume that UW Admissions set reasonable standards for this kid to meet, and he didn't (right?)

What's frightening/sad/not surprising to me is the general reaction from the Badger fanbase....it's basically f*ck admissions. That's the spirit.

The timing suggests that the kid was taking a summer class (or two) in order to try to become eligible and didn't get the required grade. Far as I know, the "academic restrictions" at Wisconsin are entirely related to requiring one more core course than the NCAA, which REALLY isn't very stringent.

 

[julescat]

I think that the Anderson departure was equal parts the problems on admissions, especially JUCOs, and the fact that asswipe Alvarez is in charge there.

 

[willycat]

Dallas, TX 4-star RB Jordan Steveson has been denied admission as per UW Chancellor. He has been given his release and is now free to sign with any team for the upcoming season. Tough break right before fall report dates...guess Gary Anderson knew what he was talking about when he complained about the admissions process in Madtown.

Can we get him into NU? Maybe as a walk-on. Just kidding.

 

[Sheffielder]

The timing suggests that the kid was taking a summer class (or two) in order to try to become eligible and didn't get the required. Grade. Far as I know, the "academic restrictions" at Wisconsin are entirely related to requiring one more core course than the NCAA, which REALLY isn't very stringent.

...well...that's exactly what I'm getting at. I don't believe the Wisconsin Admissions Office is out to get the football program...at a state university with a fairly rich football tradition, I'd like to think the parameters were both reasonable and cut and dry - earn this GPA and/or pass this course and you're in. The GPA wasn't 3.8 and the class wasn't nuclear physics.

 

[Cat In The Cradle]

The timing suggests that the kid was taking a summer class (or two) in order to try to become eligible and didn't get the required. Grade. Far as I know, the "academic restrictions" at Wisconsin are entirely related to requiring one more core course than the NCAA, which REALLY isn't very stringent.

Your first two sentences are quite offensive from a grammatical standpoint and ironic given the underlying subject matter. Please edit your post.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

Your first two sentences are quite offensive from a grammatical standpoint and ironic given the underlying subject matter. Please edit your post.

Yes, because not noticing that I inadvertently inserted a period and wrote with colloquialisms on my phone REALLY undercuts my point.

(Or did I miss the sarcasm font?)

 

[Cat In The Cradle]

Yes, because not noticing that I inadvertently inserted a period and wrote with colloquialisms on my phone REALLY undercuts my point.

(Or did I miss the sarcasm font?)

Yes, my exaggerated expression of distaste had sarcastic undertones and intended to parody the easily offended on this board.

 

[CardinalFib]

I don't really follow Wisconsin recruiting but I'm not getting that dominant vibe out of Madison this year.

If I had to guess, the new coach is not adjusting well to having to follow admission standards of any kind and admissions is putting it's foot down. Good for them. Wisconsin has an avid fan base but is not as lost as an institution as some when it comes to football.

The new coach was a former Wisconsin assistant, Wisconsin player, and Madison resident. Since admissions was an outgoing complaint of Gary Anderson, I imagine Chryst was already aware of the situation when he came back to Madison.

Jordan Stevenson likely had a conditional offer that he had to finish certain classwork with a specified minimum GPA. He didn't meet it.

 

[LeftyLarry]

He's a stud TB, was just admitted to Nebraska.
Huge loss for my Badgers.
Good news is we have plenty at TB now and going forward but he had elite HR speed and was a good kid, our admissions should be pilloried.

 

[LeftyLarry]

I don't really follow Wisconsin recruiting but I'm not getting that dominant vibe out of Madison this year.

If I had to guess, the new coach is not adjusting well to having to follow admission standards of any kind and admissions is putting it's foot down. Good for them. Wisconsin has an avid fan base but is not as lost as an institution as some when it comes to football.

Don't fool yourself, Badgers have a chance to be very, very good this season.
We'll be bigger and stronger on the DL (we played two RS Frosh there last season and they held up, we return our two best OLBS, Schobert & Biegel and we add mucho athleticism in the middle, with Jacobs & TJ Edwards and Caputo the heart and soul of the defense returns at safety alongside of McEvoy who is 6'5.5 and maybe our fastest player and will patrol the middle..The two starting CB's return also, last year's good defense should be bigger stronger and faster.

The season though will depend on the development of the OL, which IMO is a bit thin this year and will depend on two young players ione is the other Biegel who is 6'6 295 now, a bit thin for a Badger RT and the super talented 6'5 315 lb Micheal Dieter.We're going with 5th year guard Ray 6'6 335 lb Ball, who I am very skeptical about, but LT and Center have All-Big Ten types manning them in Marz and Voltz .
Chryst will throw it a lot more and we have more WR's to throw it to and Stave will be getting ALL the reps this time instead of almost none in practice and has Chrysts full confidence which he never had with GAry Andersen who wanted running QB.I expect Wheelwright to emerge as a big time WR for us.
If the OL can overpower people AND we can throw it, I expect a 1-2 loss season.

Forget 2016 though, Badgers will have a new QB and one of the toughest schedule in the entire NCAA IMO.

We start with LSU at Lambeau then, after two sisters of the poor games, hows this for running the gauntlet :

at Michigan State Spartans
Spartan Stadium, East Lansing, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 1 at Michigan Wolverines
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 8 --- Open Date --- ---
Saturday
Oct. 15 Ohio State Buckeyes
Camp Randall Stadium, Madison, WI TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 22 at Iowa Hawkeyes
Kinnick Stadium, Iowa City, IA TBA ---
Saturday
Oct. 29 Nebraska Cornhuskers
Camp Randall Stadium, Madison, WI TBA ---
Saturday
Nov. 5 at Northwestern Wildcats
Ryan Field, Evanston, IL TBA

 

[gocatsgo2003]

He's a stud TB, was just admitted to Nebraska.
Huge loss for my Badgers.
Good news is we have plenty at TB now and going forward but he had elite HR speed and was a good kid, our admissions should be pilloried.

Not going to get a whole lot of slack or sympathy on the admissions front around here. Sorry.

Might I ask how you know he's a "good kid" and why that could/should/would matter in an admissions decision?

 

[LeftyLarry]

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What's frightening/sad/not surprising to me is the general reaction from the Badger fanbase....it's basically f*ck admissions. That's the spirit.[/QUOTE]

Wisconsin is NOT considered a harder school to get into than Michigan or a better academic institution than Michigan, yet we have tougher standards for athletes than they do, something is wrong with that picture..

Someone who knows, said that based on the fact Harvard now uses heavy affirmative-action to get athletes in (they suddenly have better teams too LOL) and the average SAT score for minority kids there in general is so much lower than for other races, it isn't impossible Harvard could conceivably take a kid who wouldn't get past UW admissions, something is wrong there.
We want to be on the same level as our competition, why shouldn't we be, why should it be harder for an athlete to get into Wisconsin than almost anywhere else except Stanford, Northwestern, maybe ND and Vanderbilt?
Doesn't UW finish below all those schools academically?
I know Wisconsin was a safe school for my daughter who attended Yale, but so was Northwestern. LOL
Yes, we're proud of our fine academics and the success of our graduates but how is it bad to allow a few good kids in who didn't get the extra year of Spanish or Advanced Math in?

This kid Stevenson is a high character kid who had pretty good credentials, he actually verballed when we had NO coach because he liked the atmosphere and the academics.
He would have made it through easily IMO and should have played for WISCONSIN.

 

[hawkit3113]

Congrats Nebraska

 

[LeftyLarry]

http://photos.uc.wisc.edu/photos/16519/view

Shockingly, here is a photo of the woman, who is keeping young African-American footballers out of Madison.

 

[willycat]

http://photos.uc.wisc.edu/photos/16519/view

Shockingly, here is a photo of the woman, who is keeping young African-American footballers out of Madison.

Or just maybe she is not allowing kids who do not have grades from entering a university just because they play football. I say good for her! is she only denting admissions to African American kids or do you have an underlying motive to your opinion?

 

[LeftyLarry]

Just saying, the entire situation is very strange.

BA is trying to go back to the old system where Coaches recruited a kid for a long time,understood the academic side and if the kid was marginal, they could go a dean of the School they were trying to get into and the Coaches could make a case for a kid.
Sometimes it worked , sometimes it didn't but with a nice , articulate young man who according to Chryst did everything they asked him to do academically since last year, he probably gets a chance and plays for Wisconsin instead of Nebraska.
We all want the decision taken out of MS. Brumfield's hands as the only and last word.
Apparently she's Looking ONLY at grades and scores and there's more to these kids, sometimes, than just that.
This kid could have made it at Wisconsin, is he better served at Nebby, I doubt it.

 

[gocatsgo2003]

Just saying, the entire situation is very strange.

BA is trying to go back to the old system where Coaches recruited a kid for a long time,understood the academic side and if the kid was marginal, they could go a dean of the School they were trying to get into and the Coaches could make a case for a kid.
Sometimes it worked , sometimes it didn't but with a nice , articulate young man who according to Chryst did everything they asked him to do academically since last year, he probably gets a chance and plays for Wisconsin instead of Nebraska.
We all want the decision taken out of MS. Brumfield's hands as the only and last word.
Apparently she's Looking ONLY at grades and scores and there's more to these kids, sometimes, than just that.
This kid could have made it at Wisconsin, is he better served at Nebby, I doubt it.

Wait... You want to take final admissions decisions OUT of the hands of the director of admissions? You realize how backwards that is?

 

[gocatsgo2003]

[QUOTE="
What's frightening/sad/not surprising to me is the general reaction from the Badger fanbase....it's basically f*ck admissions. That's the spirit.

Wisconsin is NOT considered a harder school to get into than Michigan or a better academic institution than Michigan, yet we have tougher standards for athletes than they do, something is wrong with that picture..

Someone who knows, said that based on the fact Harvard now uses heavy affirmative-action to get athletes in (they suddenly have better teams too LOL) and the average SAT score for minority kids there in general is so much lower than for other races, it isn't impossible Harvard could conceivably take a kid who wouldn't get past UW admissions, something is wrong there.
We want to be on the same level as our competition, why shouldn't we be, why should it be harder for an athlete to get into Wisconsin than almost anywhere else except Stanford, Northwestern, maybe ND and Vanderbilt?
Doesn't UW finish below all those schools academically?
I know Wisconsin was a safe school for my daughter who attended Yale, but so was Northwestern. LOL
Yes, we're proud of our fine academics and the success of our graduates but how is it bad to allow a few good kids in who didn't get the extra year of Spanish or Advanced Math in?

This kid Stevenson is a high character kid who had pretty good credentials, he actually verballed when we had NO coach because he liked the atmosphere and the academics.
He would have made it through easily IMO and should have played for WISCONSIN.[/QUOTE]

You're kidding about the Harvard/Wisconsin thing, yeah?

 

[Gladeskat]

Or just maybe she is not allowing kids who do not have grades from entering a university just because they play football. I say good for her! is she only denting admissions to African American kids or do you have an underlying motive to your opinion?

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU JUST POSTED THIS! After all your bitching about Cotton and Lynn not getting into NU a few years back, this is absolutely stupifying!