You heard it right: NU's class is ranked EIGHTH in nation
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I can suck up a lot of liquid. Just ask MidvaleDave.
Ba-dum bump.
Actually, the Final Four awards the Most Outstanding Player, so that's not a typo.
Washington went 2-16 last year in the Pac Ten and has not been to the NCAA tournament in eight years. I can see why they fired the coach who had been there, like, forever. The school did not have a quick trigger with him.
Actually, 6 years. They lost in the Sweet 16 in 2011.Romar had a good run of 6 Tournament appearances in an 8 year stretch, but ran out of gas and seemed to have crashed and burned last season.
Fair enough. I guess my hypothesis is that the one and done 5* players will not enable a level of consistent program competitive performance that the 4 year 4* players will for a non-blue blood program like NU. That is what I saw with UW.
Keep an eye on Missouri over the next 5 years as they should provide an interesting case study. Not a blue blood, not a recent history of sustained success, and now a roster with at least 2 one-and-dones.
LSU two years ago was another interesting study. How did they do with Simmons and how are they doing now? I don't really know nor do I care enough to do the research. Just running my fingers now.
DePaul operated this way under Pat Kennedy with guys like Quentin Richardson and Bobby Simmons etc. - maybe not one and dones but early draft entries. I don't think it was at all bad for the program but he certainly wasn't able to meet on-court expectations based on his recruiting. Perhaps the conclusion is, 5 stars, one and dones etc doesn't guarantee success but I don't buy the argument that it would be harmful or that in and of itself prevents success.
Take a look at the program once those guys left and it has been a dumpster fire. I heard that there were shall we say inducements getting those guys there.
Once you have established a program, a one and done might be a finishing touch, but doing it too soon might not work out so well.
Gaines is only rated a 3* by Rivals and both he, Rap, Turner and Lathon have a 3* composite ranking, as well as Pardon, BMac and Lindsey.
Wouldn't be surprised if the 2 lowest rated players in this class, Lathon and Young, end up being the most impactful players.
Part of the reason why UNC won the NC last season was due to experience and depth.
And that, ironically, came about due to the academic scandal hanging over the school and negative recruiting - which resulted in the Tar Heels still getting very good players, but a notch below what they usually get (so no 1-and-dones).
Don't see why CC and the staff won't land a super blue chip one of these days, but think that landing very good players who stay for 2-3-4 years is the more likelihood for the program's path to making deep runs into the Tourney and beyond.
I don't know that you can say that we tried with Ellenson when the head coach decided it wasn't worth being on campus during his visit.
? I though that was Frank Kaminsky.....
Henry Ellenson was a 2015 Marquette commit and the NU head coach was.......Chris Collins!
The Kaminsky story has been discussed a few times on here, I believe. (sarcasm)
One of my favorite phrases containing an unnecessary adverb. It should be the "outstanding" player of the Final Four. The "most" is not needed.
Yeah, maybe it was Frank Kaminsky. But, then I could haven't brought up Bill Carmody again.
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