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He is shrinking?!?!? He was 5'9" earlier in the thread. Guess he was a terrible recruiting call, being so small and all. Damn shame. Not the coaches fault, they probably felt the kettle balls would work. Those damb pesky fans stunted his growth...
I had to clean up some typos, but I think your post is good, especailly your thoughts about the East. In my opinion, looking at the coaches on each team, I think we lag behind in the coaching dept. I think Io_a has depth issues that NU does. However, Io-a's upside seasons means playing for the West title. I see our upside season as 2nd or 3rd place. I hope I am wrong, but the evidence suggests otherwise.
I said "5-9 180 on a good day." Most people realize that's a figure of speech indicating that he isn't actually 5-9 (I actually meant 190 as 5-9 190 is his listed height/weight, but had a typo from my phone... sorry). "5-9 190" can work at RB (and he had pretty darn good film with the offer list to go with it), but is tough at most other positions.
That's fair. Was just pointing out that this is one of the few points where we don't disagree.
Ugggg...phone trashed. Thank goodness for my ipad, computer and noone able to pester me by phone.
That's fair. Was just pointing out that this is one of the few points where we don't disagree.
There are a few.
Not looking to blast your opinion Ed, but the premise of many of your points relate to the availability of talent for recruiting in the local of the team.
Your first three teams Wiscy, Nebby, and Iowa are THE only game in town. People in these states come out in droves to support the product. Their stadiums are full with THEIR colors. Most attending these games never went to the school! Think Chicago and being born into being a Bears fan.
Is it easier to recruit when you have a raucous full house in Iowa when you are hosting Michigan? Whisky hosting OSU while everyone in the state flys their Red flag. Nebby when they roll out the Hesiman and National Title history while bringing out 20,000 to each road game. No one in their right mind will argue these 3 states produce a bevy of talent, but you would have to have your eyes closed if you can't see the appeal of the football environment as opposed to NU, Illinois, Purdue or even Minny.
It's the chicken and the egg. Good teams typically bring in more fans and more talent. The fact that they have basically the entire state blowing horns for ole State U and an alumni base quadruple NU's is a major difference and distinct advantage.
As far as the quality of head coaches. Chryst has clearly done the job and his team's have been well prepared throughout his tenure. He is dull as a butter knife, but his job is to win games and run a clean program. He does that and has to be considered the top coach in the West IMO. Riley and Frentz have had ups and downs. Read the posters on their board and you'll see their fan base is less than enamored with either of them. I personally have seen some questionable game day coaching out of both. Sound familiar to Evanston. No way I take these two over our HC especially considering their age and IMO very average results over an extended period. Minny, C'mon now! Claeys handled us this year, how is he annointed as better based on 1.5 years of coaching. This guy will come down to earth soon enough.
Fitz is not the problem. I always ask who would you replace him with and usually get the unrealistic top names and the great unknowns. PJ Fleck is the latest name and I say, no way!
Did you think that Barnett would get the football team to the Rose Bowl and finish with a top 10 ranking in four years?
So now we hire someone else because "why not, what's the worst that could happen?"
Ask ND how that's worked out.
Wisconsin IS a small gold mine for OL and DL talent. Lots of huge people in Wisconsin. The talent in general in Wisconsin is underrated, IMO.
The key thing with the new practice facility is that it is ON CAMPUS (in a nice location), rather than being over a mile away. That eliminates one negative mark for the program for recruits, IMO. Now if a football player wants to escape the grating sound of nerds and get swole, he can walk a few blocks to the weight room overlooking Lake Michigan.
Gotta keep up with the vacuous and oft-ignorant "crap on the Cats" contributions from you and Woolly. It's tough, I tell ya, even after a 3 TD win over our in-state rival to make us eligible for a bowl game.
It is coaching. Io-a and Wiscy were terrible in the late 60s and 70s. The change occurred for Io-a, from my recollection, when Hayden Fry showed up. Wiscy had an era with I think Dave McClain, but when Barry Alvarez hit town, Wiscy's fortunes changed. Each school was the only team in the state and I really do not have a recollection of OSU, Michigan or anyone concentrating their recruiting to those hotbeds for football recruiting, otherwise known as Io-a or Wisconsin. It was and is coaching.
Chryst may be boring, but the Badgers played with a toughness and beat the crap out of us. The score was much closer than the actual game. Claeys was part of Jerry Kill's staff. They won at every single level before getting to Minny. I expect the same will occur at Minny. Good running and tough defense.ny's lines ate ours alive. Nebby did the same thing. 3 teams in the west handled our Iines. They beat us. Unless there is some change. This will continue. The 4 teams we will compete against are Wiscy, Io-a, Minny and Nebby and I think all will consistently be better every year. Add in PF's coaching. 6-6 is what you. Further, WMU and ISU's lines whipped our lines this year.
I would not take Ferentz or Riley over PF since they are near 65, but Claeys, Chryst and even Lovie would better options. I see in the other thread that PF is ranked low in our divisions by some. I think they are right.
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Of course not. But the chances of someone achieving such a dramatic turnaround were smaller than tiny. Do you think arguably the greatest turnaround of a program in college football history in the past 50 years is a common event? Do you bet the house when the odds are 1000:1?
I'd guess the odds of finding a better coach than Fitz for the next five years is about 1:10.
Now you are going back 50 years to mention a turn around? If we were recruiting against them in the 60's you would have a point. Also, never said or implied Whisky or Iowa were hotbeds of talent. I would argue IL is average at best.
You must have forgot our beat down of Kill/Claeys last year. Crap happens to average teams. Minny was average last year. We are average this year mostly because we don't have enough talent and we have a couple Assistants that from the outside don't appear to be doing the job.
I know my opinion that the Head Coach isn't the reason we are average won't be popular with all Tailgating crew but even they could see part of the obstacles said HC deals with when competing with the big State U's.
Drink drano... oh never mind, you contribute the best you can, best you always could. How's the cat?
And I'm glad. Means you have little patience and i own you. Cheers
You really don't understand. You asked me what I said. It wasn't about you. My message was this board should stop these threads, i.e. to shut up. I don't have any personal message for you because you have no special significance for me as one of the whiners. As far as patience, I have been at this a hell of a long time. I got all the patience in the world. To me, this is like the crying baby on the airplane on a long haul flight. I wish it would shut up. I have nothing against the baby. I understand it is upset and scared and really can't help being a cry baby. So even if it continues to cry, I am going to be fine.
This is when the programs turned around. If Illinois is so bad for talent, I guess the number of players from Illinois on Io-a, like Ekatitie (sic) from defensive end from Lake Forest Academy who NU recruited suck, as do some players who go to Wiscy every years, and the4 recruits who were in the nation's top 250 who came from Illinois and who went to MSU last year stink. Illinois is not as good as Ohio or maybe Michigan, but it is a good source of talent and is from where we got JJTBC and CT.
I did not got to NU. Grew up in Wilmette. I am an outside looking at this with no enduring ties to the school. I am calling it the way I see it. I do not like it when Hank plays the prevent, but the dense with Hank and Jerry are well coached. Mick as a qb coach is very good. The rest are meh.
I am just like you in I never went to NU and am just a fan from AH. We typically only record a half dozen or so kids a year from IL, so even if we landed half of them, we would need to go places such as Ohio, Texas and most recently Georgia.
I too think the performance of some of our staff has been meh. What I am not convinced of is there is some magic Jim Hardballs tree out there that results in an instant turn around.
And I'm glad. Means you have little patience and i own you. Cheers
Na na na na naaaaa.
And your contributions...umm...do you contribute anything besides constant criticism of NU programs and ignorant commentary on which coach should be fired next? Too bad the internet wasn't booming during the Dark Ages. Your posts would have greater effective application and appreciation back then.
Boots has made a remarkable recovery over the past two months and is almost back to "normal" for a >16-year-old cat. Three months ago, I was a day or two away from putting him down. I (and my vets) have no idea what was wrong or how he recovered. Thanks for asking!
For fear of venturing into Rant Board material... Seems like that was a terrible decision as well.
What good is any attitude? Why are we here? Is this the kum-bay-yah corner of the internet? I thought it was a place to discuss thoughts and feelings about nu sports. Damn, did i stumble into one of those damn safe spaces? Frigging coddled younguns....
Hurray, another guy ready for some coaching changes. Slowly the tide rolls in.
Yup. Let's see who does better and lasts longer...Donald Trump or the next coach at ND.
I was in school there during the dark ages. And the internet existed...less prevalently than today.
Call me what you want, doesn't make if true. My frat was all athletes and potheads, I had many football brothers. But i have defended my fandom enough. Truth is - the growing majority is calling for some coaching changes. It took two years, and like Trump, the majority and board police didnt see it coming, but it is here. Except for mike and a few klan carryovers, seems like the rational majority is onboard. I called for it early. Just one of my contributions.
I know, mean non fan accusations to follow. It is ok, I have been right most of my life and had to deal with folks like you throughout. Im arrogant, maybe an ass but a fan. KMA
Both get recalled, impeached (fired) or indicted within two years. But entertainment value justifies the decision. And neither impacts my life directly.
Nah, you're very welcome to bring any attitude you want to the boards so I can beat them down with my Pollyanna love club. I enjoy people who endlessly bitch about everything endlessly. I wish they made a talking Willycat (the person) or Woolly (the frightened lamb) bobblehead doll that bitched when you pull a string. If I had a half dozen of them squawking constantly, I wouldn't bother reading the Rivals boards.
Board police - there has to be a rule about glades threatening people with his penis. I demand stiff justice!
I don't question whether you're an NU fan or not. That's silly.
The majority of the board thought Jerry Brown should have been fired 15 years ago, then 10 years ago, and even recently. The majority of the board wrote off Tre Demps 4 years ago as well. The majority of people can't locate Iraq on a map. Being in the majority means nothing if the majority really doesn't know anything.
I've also been right most of my life and have had to deal with my share of skeptics as well. "KMA"?...Bring a step ladder!
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Let's hope not. Trump will impact many in my field. Heck, he wants to wipe out my field. Should be entertaining, though.
Is trump planning to eradicate bugs? I should have voted. Meh, he didn't need mine
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