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Certainly played faster than that in games, but those numbers will cost him.4.69u on both 40s. Not good for a guy whose main knock is top-end speed.
You must not watch much NFL.I doubt his clutching and grabbing to keep up with WR's is gonna be as effective in the NFL.
You must not watch much NFL.
C’mon man, I thought you “strapped it on” and knew football... especially Florida football.Nope. But I know Hartage doesn't have a chance against a fast receiver unless he grabs a handle. Good luck with that in the NFL.
C’mon man, I thought you “strapped it on” and knew football... especially Florida football.
Joe Haden, from UF, ran a much slower than expected 40 time at the combine (near 4.6) and the draft watchers were thrown in a tizzy. The Browns still selected him in the early 1st round and he’s been a Pro Bowl NFL cornerback last time I checked.
Hartage can play - the gameday test doesn’t lie. He has great awareness and makes the most of his talent.
Plus, his shuttle time is indicative of very “quick hips” which is just as important as the dash - if not moreso. I still think he can get a roster spot and play at the next level, perhaps starting as a special teamer and nickle or dime back a la McManis.
C’mon man, I thought you “strapped it on” and knew football... especially Florida football.
Joe Haden, from UF, ran a much slower than expected 40 time at the combine (near 4.6) and the draft watchers were thrown in a tizzy. The Browns still selected him in the early 1st round and he’s been a Pro Bowl NFL cornerback last time I checked.
Hartage can play - the gameday test doesn’t lie. He has great awareness and makes the most of his talent.
Plus, his shuttle time is indicative of very “quick hips” which is just as important as the dash - if not moreso. I still think he can get a roster spot and play at the next level, perhaps starting as a special teamer and nickle or dime back a la McManis.
Yeah I mean 4.69 is pretty bad for a corner. It would be middling for a MLB - A Walk was faster last year. I mean jeez that’s not thaaat far off of what my 40 time is and I know for darned sure that I could never cover an NFL WR. Hopefully Montre had something off that day and can improve on NU pro day. Except he did get that exact time twice, and his shuttle time was very fast, hence probably not injured. So it seems more likely that he just has great quickness and change of direction but weak top end speed.Per Wiki, Haden ran a 4.52 at the combine, which still disappointed the scouts. It was said he was nursing an injury and he eventually ran 4.43 at the pro day, so slightly different situation.
Nope, his first time was a 4.57 and his second time was 4.6. He or his assistant likely edited the Wiki article for posterity- here are links to independent articles verifying the 4.57 time:Per Wiki, Haden ran a 4.52 at the combine, which still disappointed the scouts. It was said he was nursing an injury and he eventually ran 4.43 at the pro day, so slightly different situation.
Well maybe he can make it in the AAF or the new XFL if he is too slow for the NFL. I haven’t watched a second of an AAF game, but I heard that the offenses are so bad that they’re ultimately entertaining.I'm proud of the fact that I don't know football, and I'm particularly proud of my ignorance of everything "Florida football". However, I've spent several weeks working on Lake Blackshear and the Flint River near Hartage's home in Cordele, GA.
I know Hartage is a great college player with excellent quickness. But IMO, he also lacked top-end speed and had to grab to hang with the speedsters, which he did quite deftly. If that translates into an NFL career, great!
It's football.
i meant the AAFAnd fast guys tend to be better at football than slow guys.
Lou Holtz: “I’d rather have a slow guy going in the wrong direction than a fast guy going in the wrong direction. At least the slow guy won’t be as far out of position as the fast guy.”And fast guys tend to be better at football than slow guys.
Lou Holtz: “I’d rather have a slow guy going in the wrong direction than a fast guy going in the wrong direction. At least the slow guy won’t be as far out of position as the fast guy.”
Lou was a character!Lou Holtz: “I’d rather have a slow guy going in the wrong direction than a fast guy going in the wrong direction. At least the slow guy won’t be as far out of position as the fast guy.”
Hey, I agree with you! Your post just reminded me of that quote.Hence "tend to," eh?
Lou Holtz: “I’d rather have a slow guy going in the wrong direction than a fast guy going in the wrong direction. At least the slow guy won’t be as far out of position as the fast guy.”
I'd love to hear him comment on Siemian's rushing TD in the 4th quarter of the ND game in 2014. EVERYBODY was going in the wrong direction as fast as they could, even almost knocking over a ref to get away from Siemian. It looked like Siemian was Moses parting the Red Sea or everyone thought he had a live grenade. It was one of the funniest plays I've seen in football. DiNardo and Griffith chuckled over it while showing the highlights of that game.
Holtz would have loved GladesLou Holtz: “I’d rather have a slow guy going in the wrong direction than a fast guy going in the wrong direction. At least the slow guy won’t be as far out of position as the fast guy.”
Hysterical play. I have watched it many times. I am absolutely convinced that Siemian looked up and had a very very brief hesitation because he could not believe himself that he had a wide open field to the endszone.
Holtz would have loved Glades
Lou could reliably count on me to go in the wrong direction.
But, at least you wouldn’t have been that far out of position.
He is running injured. He has a lower body injury that is more of a problem for the 40 than it is the shuttleYeah I mean 4.69 is pretty bad for a corner. It would be middling for a MLB - A Walk was faster last year. I mean jeez that’s not thaaat far off of what my 40 time is and I know for darned sure that I could never cover an NFL WR. Hopefully Montre had something off that day and can improve on NU pro day. Except he did get that exact time twice, and his shuttle time was very fast, hence probably not injured. So it seems more likely that he just has great quickness and change of direction but weak top end speed.
He is running injured. He has a lower body injury that is more of a problem for the 40 than it is the shuttle
He may have thought he would test better. It doesn't look good to scouts not running Of course his slow time didn't either But he may have wanted to see how he felt that day to make that decision If a player is fast and use to running fast it is hard for them to think they won't run fast Jango constantly ran 4.5. I remember him being hurt and running hurt thinking he would still run his 4.5. He ran a 4.7. A competitive athlete always feels they can competeThen he shouldn’t have run.
He may have thought he would test better. It doesn't look good to scouts not running Of course his slow time didn't either But he may have wanted to see how he felt that day to make that decision If a player is fast and use to running fast it is hard for them to think they won't run fast Jango constantly ran 4.5. I remember him being hurt and running hurt thinking he would still run his 4.5. He ran a 4.7. A competitive athlete always feels they can compete
I bet you clotheslined a few guys....That's how I made my tackles. And that's also how my butt became one with the bench.
He may have thought he would test better. It doesn't look good to scouts not running Of course his slow time didn't either But he may have wanted to see how he felt that day to make that decision If a player is fast and use to running fast it is hard for them to think they won't run fast Jango constantly ran 4.5. I remember him being hurt and running hurt thinking he would still run his 4.5. He ran a 4.7. A competitive athlete always feels they can compete
I am sure he wouldn't have ran it if he knew he would do poorly He probably woke up feeling good and decided to run it knowing he had another chance to run it if he needed toCould very easily have just waited for the pro day.
I am sure he wouldn't have ran it if he knew he would do poorly He probably woke up feeling good and decided to run it knowing he had another chance to run it if he needed to