It is hard to see how these allegations, even if true (which I doubt) constitute a legal cause of action, especially one for antitrust. There is no sense to be made in what I am reading.
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I couldn't care less about the case. I am disappointed that Collins is just like all of the other scumbags.
I couldn't care less about the case. I am disappointed that Collins is just like all of the other scumbags.
I couldn't care less about the case. I am disappointed that Collins is just like all of the other scumbags.
I couldn't care less about the case. I am disappointed that Collins is just like all of the other scumbags.
Ahhh, nothing like napalm early in the morning.
I think this is exactly what a lot of people feared when we fired BC,
It really is. That and the youngins over at InsideNU desperately want this to be some degree of true for the "big time NCAA sports exploiting players" angle.I already went down this road on another site, so I'll try to keep it short. However, let's make sure we understand the true facts of NU's history with players before we say this is a complete change for NU. I dare anyone to find me another program where so many players "left the team" but stayed in school as they did during the BC era. But that is always conveniently ignored as well as the list of players shown the door - especially at the beginning of the BC regime (which happens everywhere but some want to make it "a thing.")
It's so obvious there are many of the CBC acolytes turning this into another excuse to bash CCC.
I couldn't care less about the case. I am disappointed that Collins is just like all of the other scumbags.
I think this is exactly what a lot of people feared when we fired BC,
Very small rocks! Churches! Great gravy!Yea, screw the case and damn the legal process. Just a sham to line the pockets of those fat cat lawyers! I'm an informed human being, and I can tell from this fair and balanced release that Collins is an absolute trash human being. This is bigly disappointing. Sad!
FIRST AMENDMENT!!!!Just got banned from InsideNU! Hooray for kids who can't take criticism!
Its a shame humans don't eat their young more often.NU and CCC have been pretty much been tried, convicted and strung up on the gallows on that other web site that covers NU sports, primarily with student writers. The "journalists" there penned a really flimsy column on the culture change at NU and all the young-un posters jumped on the crucifixion bandwagon. I guess it's to be expected. Experience over the years tends to aging folks like me the benefit of patience and withholding judgment.
If only our front four could rush the passer like some people rush to judgment.
Now I feel left out.Just got banned from InsideNU! Hooray for kids who can't take criticism!
And you know this how? Many, many coaches have disagreements with players (Kevin Coble, anyone?)
NU and CCC have been pretty much been tried, convicted and strung up on the gallows on that other web site that covers NU sports, primarily with student writers. The "journalists" there penned a really flimsy column on the culture change at NU and all the young-un posters jumped on the crucifixion bandwagon. I guess it's to be expected. Experience over the years tends to aging folks like me the benefit of patience and withholding judgment.
If only our front four could rush the passer like some people rush to judgment.
Now I feel left out.
Which comment got you banned? I need a good role model...
Should I go back over there and try the nuclear option? Really tempting...
I already went down this road on another site, so I'll try to keep it short. However, let's make sure we understand the true facts of NU's history with players before we say this is a complete change for NU. I dare anyone to find me another program where so many players "left the team" but stayed in school as they did during the BC era - a complete oddity in college basketball, but somehow it was petty normal during the BC era. How about the several who completely "quit the sport?" Another basketball oddity. Sure, it had nothing to do with coaching in the past.
Good grief.I sarcastically stated under the NU press release article that we don't need due process and that we all know based on the complaint that Collins is the scum of the Earth. Styled it with Trumpisms. Wouldn't be surprised if that's what got me banned. Pretty sure that violates their "safe space" rule. I'm a lurker and rarely post, so that could be it, too.
c'est la vie
Good grief.
We are becoming a nation of pussies.
Agreed. I wasn't quite that much of a bleeder back in my piss and vinegar days, more an angry young man who lacked the patience to take the long view. But, yeah, the first site of injustice typically caused a visceral reaction that could only be satisfied with blood (or a good brawl).They're students. I'd much prefer student journalists taking the side of a fellow student and railing against the administration than the alternative. So them make some mistakes while doing it. All part of the process.
We are becoming a nation of pussies.
They're students. I'd much prefer student journalists taking the side of a fellow student and railing against the administration than the alternative. So them make some mistakes while doing it. All part of the process.
I don't know what the real issue is here. If you honored his ability to go to school on scholarship, (same economics) you are honoring your commitment. Whether someone plays or gets to be on the team seems outside the issue..
Humiliating a 19 year old by making him do manual labor in front of his teammates shouldn't be acceptable, though of course we don't have all of the context here.)
This is what I was thinking was the more likely scenario. Going from an athletic to an academic scholarship meant having to do some sort of work study job where the work was not so glarmous---by today's standards. Now when I was a teen, I pulled weeds, dug holes, bagged leaves, cut lawns, cleaned grease traps, fixed broken windows, took out trash (tons of it), washed dishes, washed cars, and shoveled proverbial $hit to make money, never questioning my role at the time. Times have changed.We will probably never hear how this played out, but it's within the realm of reason that on his officially leaving the basketball team Northwestern may have put Vassar into the "work/study" pool, as is typical of folks receiving financial aid from the university. At the beginning of the academic year there are all kinds of work/study jobs available some very interesting and professionally rewarding. But the best ones are taken quickly leaving a somewhat less desirable pool of jobs including helping out the landscapers, etc by mid-year when Vassar may have needed a "job."
Having done (and enjoyed!) several jobs which would count as "manual labor" in my life, I think some of us (and Vassar's lawyers) are unfairly inferring/implying that doing a job which involves using your hands beyond typing on a computer should be a source of embarrassment. The vast majority of people do not keep doing their jobs for fun during their free time -- they do their jobs because they are paid -- so the difference between the best and worst jobs, especially when taking pay out of consideration, is a matter of degree.
We will probably never hear how this played out, but it's within the realm of reason that on his officially leaving the basketball team Northwestern may have put Vassar into the "work/study" pool, as is typical of folks receiving financial aid from the university. At the beginning of the academic year there are all kinds of work/study jobs available some very interesting and professionally rewarding. But the best ones are taken quickly leaving a somewhat less desirable pool of jobs including helping out the landscapers, etc by mid-year when Vassar may have needed a "job."
Having done (and enjoyed!) several jobs which would count as "manual labor" in my life, I think some of us (and Vassar's lawyers) are unfairly inferring/implying that doing a job which involves using your hands beyond typing on a computer should be a source of embarrassment. The vast majority of people do not keep doing their jobs for fun during their free time -- they do their jobs because they are paid -- so the difference between the best and worst jobs, especially when taking pay out of consideration, is a matter of degree.
Work-study isn't supposed to include landscaping jobs. It's supposed to help students mitigate the cost of attendance by providing students with work opportunities related to academic majors/interests. Of course, NU, like many other schools, skirts these requirements through the "less desirable" jobs you describe, but those jobs are not supposed to be work-study jobs.
There's nothing wrong with manual labor! It's vital work and we should do right by our laborers. But the complaint states outright that other positions were available and NU refused to allow him into any of those jobs. I don't know what the "Wildcat Internship Program" is - and Googling the phrase only brings up this complaint, so if it does exist, it exists under a different name - but "internships" should not involve picking up trash and leaves. The university should not be using unpaid student labor for tasks like that when they could be paying actual workers.
Are you inferring that you believe the complaint 100%?
This question is ridiculous enough that it doesn't really deserve an answer, but:
No. Obviously not. The descriptions of Vassar's basketball ability alone are patently ludicrous. But the allegations about the program are serious enough that they warrant investigation and not just blanket dismissal.
Acts of fraud intended to create justifications for pulling a scholarship, on the other hand, are both illegal and unacceptable. If the time card story is true, everyone involved with it should lose their jobs. The same would be true if BC was still the coach.