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Who have been the best hoops players after transferring away from NU?

Benson or Rap can be argued they would have strenghtned our team had they stayed.

They did not set the world on fire, it was in a mid major environment, but they would have helped.

Don't think they fit the "really really" wish they had stayed though.

During the Collins era, I always wondered "what-if" for Rapolas Ivanauskas as he had a compelling tool-set (and embodied Collins' affinity for stretch bigs). Even though he was a key player at Colgate, he was "a guy" against kenpom Tier A+B teams - in 6 games in '19 (NCAA-bound Red Raiders Squad), he had a 84.3 ORTG, 3.9%OREB, 18.2% DREB, 17-41/41.5% 2FG, 4-14/28.6 3FG. For perspective, 'Cats played 21 of 34 games last year vs Tier A+B teams, so in essence analogous to a B1G schedule.

He closed his D1 career playing 16.3% Min for Cincinnati, which was kp113 rated, and mid-tier in the American Athletic Conference - and he actually left the squad to play pro ball in Lithuania during that season. Which was understandable as I believe behind the scenes was tumultuous that season.

Maybe if we go alt-universe and pulled the grad transfer after 4 healthy years at Colgate, he may have been a solid contributor? -A notch above Tydus? He remains a pro in Lithuania, so it verifies he's got some chops.

Who have been the best hoops players after transferring away from NU?

I have to admit I was wrong about Roper. Thought he was going to be a big loss.
Had the talent, but I guess the desire isn't there... or Shrewsberry has a bunch or good players.
Looking back though, Collins gave him lots of minutes as a freshman, but Roper made little to no progress his sophomore season.
He, like others, wanted to get up and down the court.
He was injured a lot and that set him back and allowed other guys to step up. He would have played at the end of last year!

Who have been the best hoops players after transferring away from NU?

I have to admit I was wrong about Roper. Thought he was going to be a big loss.
Had the talent, but I guess the desire isn't there... or Shrewsberry has a bunch or good players.
Looking back though, Collins gave him lots of minutes as a freshman, but Roper made little to no progress his sophomore season.
He, like others, wanted to get up and down the court.

BREAKING: NU lands 2025 big man Cade Bennerman

Katatonic and Hkjb:

Your comments are insightful and fair. Enjoyed reading them.
It helps with my sanity.

Winners are guys who play hard, work hard and lead by example. They put in extra time trying to be the best they can be. They rejoice when teammates do well. They don't care as much about their stat line as they care about winning. They don't seek to demean their opponent - just defeat him.

A lot of good players do not fit that mold. Ty Berry, Nick Martinelli and Brooks Barnhizer definitely fit that mold. Other guys are not as committed or intense.

This year's team looks to have a very tight core. That tends to lead to success, especially in tight games.

Its a natural byproduct of identifying and recruiting "winners."

Who have been the best hoops players after transferring away from NU?

I was thinking about this today when someone mentioned Roper at the end of the ND bench, but are there any transfers who have gotten better after leaving NU? Sure, some have gone to better team situations, like going to North Carolina or Duke (though you can argue that NU did better in those years than UNC or Duke did after Nance/Young left), but did any become better? I mentioned on another thread that I hate that other schools get the best years of a player that NU develops, but then I couldn't think of any good examples. We really do a good job of holding onto our stars and rarely have to have the pain of watching them excel elsewhere.

Going back to the 1990s, we had Geno Carlisle and Rex Walters, but am I forgetting anyone since then? Has there been a player this century who did so well at his new school that we really really wished he were still in purple?

BREAKING: NU lands 2025 big man Cade Bennerman

As I explained in the story, Rivals has only ranked two of Northwestern's five commits -- West and Gill, who are both three-stars. That's why the class is in the 50s in the team rankings. Rivals doesn't have a national basketball analyst right now, so they are WAY behind in ranking players.
It's possible that we have overrated Bennerman, Kropp, and Singleton, but if they have no ratings at all, of course the ranking is going to suck. I like the 247 ratings much better (#10 when I looked yesterday).
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