B1G Portal transfers tracker
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Morez Johnson leaves Captain Underpants for the green pastures of Ann Arbor.
I am sure NIL had nothing to do with it.
I am sure NIL had nothing to do with it.
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Lots of new additions to rosters. Players are moving.
Drake's East satelite campus already seems to have recovered 1/2 a roster.
VC continues to not list Luke Hunger
Drake's East satelite campus already seems to have recovered 1/2 a roster.
VC continues to not list Luke Hunger
UCLA’s Mara is an intriguing prospect. We double and triple teamed him in this year’s game and still couldn’t stop him.
He would be a massive upgrade, with him and Nick on the inside, both likely drawing double teams, the perimeter would really open up for 3s. I imagine it will take quite a bag of nil to land Mara, especially as bigs are generally quite expensive this year.
A massive upgrade over who? Nicholson? or one of the incoming freshmen?
Mara was no better than Nicholson last year.
Evan Miyakawa had Nicholson as the 21st best player in the Big Ten this season, with Mara rated at #39.
Bart Torvik has Nicholson as his 81st best player in the Big Ten, with Mara at #87.
Miyakawa and Torvik use wildly different approaches to rating players, but both rated Nicholson higher.
Of course, I'd love to have Mara replacing Nicholson now... because Mara has upside.
That's the key and why this kid's NIL, probably higher than the already "higher than the rest big man NIL", is, most likely, out of reach for us (suggested also by the fact we heard nothing about him having heard from NU).
Yet, we supposedly have top half B1G NIL war heat and we recruit a poor man’s Big Matt.
Seriously though - who is saying we have "top half NIL?"
I'm not questioning what you wrote, I'm assuming there are people claiming that - I just don't know how informed these "insiders" are.
It was in an article published by Lou. It surprised me as well.
Martinelli is taking a good portion and rightfully so.
Ok, but if this is accurate we got the funds to pay more than just Nick.
It’s almost as if “reporters” that run a subscription based fan site that caters exclusively to fans of one single university’s athletic programs will pass along whatever nonsense is fed to them by their contacts within the program… because if they don’t carry water for the program they’ll lose access and therefore can’t provide any value to their subscribers.
It’s not exclusive to the fine folks that run this site. Every single idiot running a subscription college fan site does it; they don’t really have a choice. But it’s really led to a collapse in quality sports journalism at the collegiate level.
I'm going to assume that you are putting Lou in the "fine folks" category and leave him out of the "Every single idiot running a subscription college fan site" category.
Having written that, you make an interesting point. Propaganda or news... that is the question.
When Lou starts reporting that Coach Collins has world leaders calling him to negotiate (when they aren't) thats when I'll know Lou had crossed over to the dark side.
Exactly what benefit is it for “sources” to falsely claim NU is in the upper half of The B1G in availability of NIL funds?
If anything, it eliminates an excuse and puts pressure on the staff to use the funds wisely.
Vassar should answer for himself, but my guess is that he is saying that it benefits the home team journalist to publish whatever the school/coach tells him, basically as a minister of propaganda, in order to curry favor and increase traffic to the website.
Understood, my question was more to why would a statement like this be beneficial for the staff? Not sure why they would want this out there as I believe it intensifies the pressure to immediately win.
Oh sorry, I misunderstood. I think the coaches would put it out there that "we have money for players" to get prospective players (their agents) to pick up the phone and inquire. Short-term recruiting tool. Or its just part of the "We are a major player, but we get no respect" campaign that NU sometimes plays.
Yeah exactly. Every program says stuff like this to the people who cover their teams. It’s akin to when they talk about how great the new QB looks during spring practice. Or how the new transfer guard has absolutely elevated this team during offseason workouts. (And then sometimes once the season starts, you see that in fact that’s not true.)
My comment on reporters who run fan sites is that there’s huge pressure on them to keep a good relationship with the people who feed them info, because the viability of their site and business model depends on it. It’s very hard for them to push back publicly on what they’re told, because that may burn the only bridge you have. It’s a single point failure, if you will.
National guys can operate with a lot more freedom to express skepticism or push back on narratives/messaging being peddled by Programs; their audience and the scope of their coverage is broad. If a coach or program gets mad at them, it’s fine because they lots of other contacts/schools they can use to do their job.
It’s the same thing everywhere. IU fans think they can get Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan, in part because the folks who run their fan sites talk to boosters and contacts within the athletic department who feed them that scoop and they pass it on without much hesitation. As an Illinois fan, I stopped subscribing to an Illini fan site because they were doing the same thing. I didn’t like being given fan fiction for a monthly subscription.
Okay we're up to 2074 transfers... and Luke Hunger is still not listed.
2074 transfers. Lets say 13 guys on a roster. Lets say 3 graduate each year.
That leaves 10 players per team who can actually transfer.
I think there are roughly 350 D1 programs.
So thats 3500 possible transfers.
Roughly 59% of eligible D1 basketball players are in the portal.
2074 transfers. Lets say 13 guys on a roster. Lets say 3 graduate each year.
That leaves 10 players per team who can actually transfer.
I think there are roughly 350 D1 programs.
So thats 3500 possible transfers.
Roughly 59% of eligible D1 basketball players are in the portal.
I was just re-reading "A Season on the Brink" in honor of the departed John Feinstein, who notes that the Bloomington paper's sports editor has to be sympathetic to Bob Knight to keep his job. So this dynamic has been around forever.
What's that even mean? Revenue sharing plus NIL? Amounts negotiated in advance of the revenue sharing settlement so all bets are off this season?
Basically yes. Nicholson was 5th year SR and Mara a Soph. Matt was solid defensively but his O left a lot to be desired. And the Frosh will not be ready at this level right away
Well if someone at NU was not getting much and they are led to believe that there is money there because NU is top half on BIG in NIL they they might become disgruntled and poachable. Of course then again top half BIG might not be that much, Top 3 of 4 teams might be huge but by the time you get down to 9 it might not be all that much
Still makes no sense to me to get false information out there. Especially, to claim you have more cash to disburse than you actually do. If they are undervalued in the market, they will likely look around. The players ultimately set the market.
Currently there is no revenue sharing. This is just teams unloading NIL ahead of the anticipated House settlement since it doesn’t have to go through a clearing house yet.
(I’m extremely skeptical that teams will stick to above the table methods for paying players. I’d assuming the introduction to capped payments via revenue sharing limits and NIL clearing house will just mean the return of under the table payments… any way, way bigger than before)
There are a couple dozen individual players who have deals worth $3M+. It’s been reported on national guys’ paywall sites that the going rate for a Power 4 starting caliber player is around $1M. (Last year $350k was the average number). Guys with all conference potential are getting $2M or more.
…Top half of the Big Ten in roster spending this year realistically means you’re probably spending at least $7M, maybe a little more.
Again while top couple teams might have 10 mill, maybe #9 is only $1.5 million and bottom might be $1 mill. Sounds good to be in top half but it might not really mean that much. And people put out info like that for different purposes. Unless we know the actual numbers, we really don't know much
Then maybe when the say top half they might have been considering last years numbers which sound to be much lower than this years numbers
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