Ok, I will give it a shot.
1. How about we start with this thread? Maybe you don't consider any of this a "blast" just a challenge.
2. Facts? I'll give you the NFL talent piece, but I think that statement is true for about half the FBS teams. It also entirely misses the many of the NFL talent couldn't gain admission. We recruit on a 40 year decision pitch, you may think we can have both and sometimes you can, but the Jameis Winston's of the world aren't getting in. That is a fact. As far as an unimaginative offense and defense, that is purely subjective. You use the word "abysmal" for our facilities and game day experience. No one will likely argue that Ryan is a palace, but abysmal is again subjective. We are getting a new lakefront facility that I would hardly describe as abysmal, but maybe you are in the group that thinks it will never be built as designed. Game day experience abysmal? I am at every game, again a subjective statement and if you too are at every game and have the same opinion, we can agree to disagree.
3. Huh, but what your complete backhand compliment to the players?
4. Ok, maybe you did, I don't follow your comments on the BB board.
Your comment on being one of the FEW who don't give the FB staff a free pass is flat out inaccurate. There is a large contingent of regular posters that are very critical of the staff on just about all facets of the program. There is an even larger contingent that critical of certain aspects of the program but acknowledges many of the positives as well. There is a much smaller group that paints everything in the program as rosy or gives a free pass as you suggest.
Since you posted recent FB records, I did the same for BB.
2005–06 Bill Carmody 14–15 6–10 T-8th
2006–07 Bill Carmody 13–18 2–14 T-10th
2007–08 Bill Carmody 8–22 1–17 11th
2008–09 Bill Carmody 17–14 8–10 9th
NIT First Round
2009–10 Bill Carmody 20–14 7–11 T-7th
NIT First Round
2010–11 Bill Carmody 20–14 7–11 8th
NIT Quarterfinals
2011–12 Bill Carmody 19–14 8–10 T-7th
NIT 2nd Round
2012–13 Bill Carmody 13–19 4–14 11th
2013–14
Chris Collins 14-18 6-12 11th
2014–15 Chris Collins 15-17 6-12 10th
I agree with you that Collins is on the right path to make NU a NCAA qualifier soon. The right guy for the job, but his record his first two years is similar to Carmodys. Yes his first year wasn't his players and last year we were very young, but the fact is we have yet to be a factor for a B1G title. Is Collins going to be able to overcome many of the same obstacles you point out plague FB? For the record, I was not a proponent of keeping Carmody and thought we kept him too long. Will Collins be able to guide us to a top 4 program in the B1G for any season? Hope so, but the jury is still out.
What I don't care for is constant negativity of a handful of folks on here who blast everything. Your reply to me was akin to why would anyone come play for Fitz? I don't know how you can think there was anything positive in your statement. I also, don't think it is wrong to challenge the program as the poster sees fit, but always being negative and likewise always being positive to me stifles good discussion.
