Hopefully the new AD with his focus on monetization and experience at Nova and USC will get this fixed.
Disappointed there are so many Indiana fans in the crowd.
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I hope so as well, lots of obstacles outside his control to deal with as well.
Here is my story. I purchased 2 season tickets in 1998 when my daughter followed me to NU. When my son moved to Winnetka, I purchased 2 additional seats directly in front of my 2 existing seats. Although I maintained my 2 original seats for 25 years, NU changed my base year to the year I purchased the 2 additional seats. I questioned NU but they would not address the issue.
From my perspective one guy has remained in the same position for years, and continues to suck.
Just for context, NU had to provide Indiana with 3000 tickets ( mainly north stands). So I would
estimate that NU ticket holders and ticket reseller companies sold 2000 to 3000 seats to Indiana fans. I drove 700 miles to see the game, and I never sell my unused STs, but I don’t begrudge anyone who does, especially with the current ticket prices.
estimate that NU ticket holders and ticket reseller companies sold 2000 to 3000 seats to Indiana fans. I drove 700 miles to see the game, and I never sell my unused STs, but I don’t begrudge anyone who does, especially with the current ticket prices.
Interesting post. I can tell you I expect them to raise prices and perfectly fine with that. This comes from someone with an asset situation that pales in comparison with most STH’s.
To shell out that money, I want some exclusivity. I want some special privileges that the dude wearing a Cig shirt doesn’t get when he buys from a broker or even another ST. If that means admission to a sponsored tailgate with discounted concessions that others don’t have access too fine. I’ll pay extra for that. If not having to park next to dozens of opposing tailgates in a ST lot, I’ll pay for that. I don’t care if the opposition buys tickets, but I don’t want them walking around like they own the place and having the same exact access as me a STH at every game. Sitting next to me, parking next to me, and pushing by me when they have to take a leak. Yes, I am special and so is every other STH that doesn’t buy tickets for the purpose of making a profit.
We should be able to create technology that matches me the buyer (owner) of the season ticket to the actual attendance at the game. You would be registered to that ticket and you would need to be present to have privileges. I will gladly pay the money to keep these vacationers away from my experience as much as possible. I will not pay to have these opposing fans around every single turn. It is no fun going to a NU game when you lose. They need to think out of the box.
We are not going anywhere lol. Relax. 1) We literally can’t get kicked out of the B1G per the bylaws and 2) we have a lot of $ to meet any needs related to league fees.
Just like WSU and OSU didn’t get kicked out of the PAC12.
Announced attendance:
36k in a 50k stadium. Perhaps it looked better in the second quarter. 🤣
@mshelton33 shared this on Twitter, though it appears that it’s not new language. Still, NU ‘reserves the right…’
Stanford has the same issues as NU.
Minimal local support
Small alumni base
Fats Cats buy ST’s and don’t show
Nerdy student base
Non winning record
Been a ST since 1996 and sit midfield. We have had as many as 21 seats and now down to 10, only 1 a NU alum. We passed on tix this year and likely next because of ticket cost and contribution threshold. Our priority points have been recalculated a couple of times and either lost points or deem them meaningless. I am confident that once the stadium is built and is open to ticket purchase. We will be priced out either by cost of the ticket, corporate money, seat license or by contribution requirements. Now I realize we may be able to get to our price point. But realistically after being midfield would you settle for a high corner.
People said this about basketball and I still think it is a reasonable deal today.
I want a better experience and I am a willing to pay for it. A luxury car versus a compact. A good bottle of wine versus a cheap bottle. I think there are a ton of people like me. the fact that I am a ST to be mutually beneficial to me and the program. I want perks that Nancy Nebby fan can’t get by purchasing from the ticket exchange or some turn coat ST fan that bails when we suck. I want opposing fans to be forced to pay more for there privilege of attending in OUR stadium. Both tickets and game day concessions ( we could even thus revenue, through the “required donation”. ) as been pointed out by some, it is cheaper for an Indiana fan to attend the game than a ST. That’s not right and it’s a sure way to lose your ST base. I hope Jackson sees this and spends the money to bring in new talent and technology. Mark give me a call, I’ll work for mileage and all access.
I think it may be time for Northwestern to drop out of the new B1G. Maybe go to the ACC leftovers once that league implodes in a couple years?
Thanks for posting Matt Shelton's tweet.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZN7NMCWUAA7Dxh?format=jpg&name=large
To me that sounds like some serious penalties are being considered.
To be fair, it was 100 degrees in Palo Alto on Saturday, and if any of you were at the game in 2019, it got extremely, uncomfortably hot in the stadium and everyone retreated to the shady concourse to get some relief.
Thanks for posting Matt Shelton's tweet.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZN7NMCWUAA7Dxh?format=jpg&name=large
To me that sounds like some serious penalties are being considered.
This has already been in place for a few years now...
I had the same experience. The IU fans I met at the Orrington were very pleasant people both before and after the game. I met the parents of IU's excellent wide receiver, #19, who caught a touchdown pass, on Friday night at the Orrington. Dad was a defensive end at Clemson. They came back to the hotel bar after the game, not for a drink, but to tell me how much they enjoyed meeting and talking to a guy who graduated from NU 59 years ago. They were also quite interested in the fact that I was both a teammate and a basketball opponent of Fred Biletnikoff's beginning 70 years ago. The subject came up when I told them that their son might be a candidate for the Biletnikoff award. Freddie comes back to good old Erie Pa. from time to time, and the football field at Erie Tech is named after him. I knew him, however, from basketball. Freddie was a great example for a guy who was not the tallest (5'11") or fastest wide receiver, but he ran great routes and dropped a pass about once every 2 years. His high school team beat mine for the city basketball championship by one point.
Well, I guess I trusted Matt Shelton to have the facts straight about the language being new...
Regardless, since you seem to be aware of the "enforcement" (or lack thereof), is there any criteria being used?
If you sell 50% of your tickets online does that trigger banishment? 75%?
Is there any rumor or instance where a season ticket holder has had his or her tickets revoked (without refund)?
Or is it just a scare tactic with no teeth?
No clue. Whether football or basketball I've never done the resale market. If I have tix I can't use I just give them away. I haven't heard anything from other STHs I know. Really has only been a concern with B-ball until this year.
Yes, but this is apples and oranges. There is no entity with several times as much money as the Big Ten to bolt to. Wazzou and Oregon State were left with hundreds of millions, as owners of BTN any remaining schools in the big ten would inherit incredible resources. Like, build yourself a new stadium resources. And the cost of leaving it all the leaving schools would be massive.
I could see the numbers working out for 4-6 blue chips leaving and forming a 16-24 team super league with the elite teams, but I can’t see how the economics work out if it’s most of the teams in the conference trying to leave. And if Ohio State and Michigan and Oregon and a couple others leave and we’re left playing Big Ten football
Against Iowa and Rutgers and Illinois… I can think of worse fates.
Take note that the new stadium is principally a music venue. As many mega concerts a year as football games and many more smaller entertainment events. Pricing strategy for football is max revenue. Luxury boxes are the priority. Visiting fans have more inelastic demand curves and pricing will be geared to them (i.e., it will be high).
After having tix since 1996, I refused to pay up for this year’s product (echo the comment above on bad site lines) and am likely to defer next season ticket package purchase until post-B1G era in a few years, if I return then. Sad demise of my fandom. It was a good run.
After having tix since 1996, I refused to pay up for this year’s product (echo the comment above on bad site lines) and am likely to defer next season ticket package purchase until post-B1G era in a few years, if I return then. Sad demise of my fandom. It was a good run.
Same. At the game I was sitting next to a couple of recent IU grads who were visibly drunk and I thought for sure it was going to be a miserable 3 hours but no, they were perfectly friendly guys who just wanted to talk football and cheer for IU. It was actually refreshing.
Seat Geek does not have a box (voluntary or required) to check proclaiming allegiance to Team X or Team Z in an athletic contest. Seat Geek didn’t sell to Indiana fans, they sold to people willing to pay the asking price (and fees).
Seat Geek didn’t say “Oh, you’re an IU fan. I won’t sell to you on Tuesday, but I might on Friday if no other Northwestern fans want these seats.”
The one problem with that will be that “Bill Smith from Winnetka” has 4 tickets. Bill Smith will have to register his ID with a third party providing services to NU on GameDay, (Similar to what “Red States” are doing with PornHub etc.). Nothing will ever go wrong with that kind of transaction.
Also, all of the preventions in PPD’s scenario will mean that Bill’s exclusive access will not be provided to Bill’s wife Betty, nor his guests at the game (John and Sue Johnson). John and Sue, driving separately, won’t be able to park at the same STH lot or get access to the same exclusive event (and wonder why they accepted your invitation to the game in the first place).
If anyone is still reading this, a question. (I will not make a game at the Lakeside field this year). Am I correct in assuming that there is - literally - NO on the street ticket market any longer? There is no one holding up a pair of (paper) tickets , making a quick cash transaction, and being on their way? Any transaction means the ticket buyer has to be registered with NU (independent of Seat Geek) to accept tickets, and there is no protection to a stranger offering cash for the promise to actually complete the electronic transfer. That means If it goes through Seat Geek, etc., NU will know exactly how much profit you made selling a pair to someone who winds up wearing (unbeknownst to you) a red shirt to the Wisconsin game.
