+/- for the Test against the Terps

[PurpleWhiteBoy]

Player	Minutes	NU Pts	MD Pts	Raw +/-	Player +/-	Net +/-	Box Pts
Nicholson	22	29	29	+0	+3.39	+3.39	3.70
Barnhizer	43	76	71	+5	+1.05	+2.05	8.50
Leach	40	66	60	+6	-0.01	+1.19	5.65
Fitzmorris	19	37	33	+4	-0.72	+0.08	3.65
Windham	6	10	14	-4	+0.49	-0.31	1.30
Martinelli	45	76	74	+2	-0.86	-0.46	5.95
Berry	33	54	55	-1	-0.79	-0.99	4.90
Ciaravino	16	26	28	-2	-1.82	-2.22	-0.40
Barkley	2	6	4	+2	-0.73	-0.33	0

Back later with some thoughts.

 

[No Chores]

Player	Minutes	NU Pts	MD Pts	Raw +/-	Player +/-	Net +/-	Box Pts
Nicholson	22	29	29	+0	+3.39	+3.39	3.70
Barnhizer	43	76	71	+5	+1.05	+2.05	8.50
Leach	40	66	60	+6	-0.01	+1.19	5.65
Fitzmorris	19	37	33	+4	-0.72	+0.08	3.65
Windham	6	10	14	-4	+0.49	-0.31	1.30
Martinelli	45	76	74	+2	-0.86	-0.46	5.95
Berry	33	54	55	-1	-0.79	-0.99	4.90
Ciaravino	16	26	28	-2	-1.82	-2.22	-0.40
Barkley	2	6	4	+2	-0.73	-0.33	0

Back later with some thoughts.

Mart was clearly the best player on the floor and won the game for us in OT, so how he can have a negative rating is beyond me.

 

[ThatkidfromHolland]

Mart was clearly the best player on the floor and won the game for us in OT, so how he can have a negative rating is beyond me.

Playing every minute of a game kind of makes raw +\- useless since it just becomes the how much you won/lost by. The adjusted player scores reward efficiency and box score stats. If your teammate is stuffing the box score while you’re on the court you’re getting dinged for it. Given it was a close win that he played every minute of, Martinelli had a pretty net neutral raw +\-, and he then got dinged for every single stat an NU player recorded throughout the game.

 

[No Chores]

Playing every minute of a game kind of makes raw +\- useless since it just becomes the how much you won/lost by. The adjusted player scores reward efficiency and box score stats. If your teammate is stuffing the box score while you’re on the court you’re getting dinged for it. Given it was a close win that he played every minute of, Martinelli had a pretty net neutral raw +\-, and he then got dinged for every single stat an NU player recorded throughout the game.

Understood, which, in my mind, makes the +/- rating insignificant and valueless.

 

[NJCat]

Mart was clearly the best player on the floor and won the game for us in OT, so how he can have a negative rating is beyond me.

Goes goes to show as the old ball coach used to say, "stats are for losers".

 

[Chitownjazz]

Mart was clearly the best player on the floor and won the game for us in OT, so how he can have a negative rating is beyond me.

Btw-no one on the BTN broadcasts mentions this-but Martinelli had only one other offer besides NU…Elon. Kudos to Collins and staff for seeing his potential.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

Understood, which, in my mind, makes the +/- rating insignificant and valueless.

I agree with this. I do like PWB’s review based on groups of 5 on the court. I believe they are interesting discussion points.