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I’d say 20k.7 minutes before game. I am in the East stands. High 70s. Sunny. Brisk breeze from SE.
Estimate is 7 to 10k here. sky divers landed. Beautiful day for football.
And this is what will keep NU from getting to the next level.Perfect weather.
i would say less than 15K.
I’d say it’s more what’s happening on the field than the crowd.And this is what will keep NU from getting to the next level.
7-10K? Let’s just blame it on COVID and tell recruits’ parents that it allows us to be safe by socially distancing.7 minutes before game. I am in the East stands. High 70s. Sunny. Brisk breeze from SE.
Estimate is 7 to 10k here. sky divers landed. Beautiful day for football.
There couldn’t have been more than 500 people in the west stands upper deck outside seats.I don’t know how the count ESPN gives differs from reality, but it say 26,181.
I don’t know how you get locals that don’t have ties to the University become fans. I only know of a couple instances where a smaller private school has done it. Those places are Georgetown and Miami. Part of it was performance, but part of it was having players that locals could identify with. I don’t think NU has the right type of team to do what those programs did.I say it to anyone who will listen: NU football deserve a better quality of fan. I say that as a native of Evanston, and someone with deep ties to the athletic program. I'm tired of our fanbase. The school tries and tries and tries, but we have an aging fanbase that can't make noise and leaves early. I don't know what the answer is. We certainly can't depend on our alum base (too geographically scattered and small anyway) and the students have shown little interest in showing up regularly en masse when they have started their semester, be they bribed, bought, or coerced.
There's just not much we can do, I mean the team has had about as much success as is historically reasonable (compare that to Illinois for example).I say it to anyone who will listen: NU football deserve a better quality of fan. I say that as a native of Evanston, and someone with deep ties to the athletic program. I'm tired of our fanbase. The school tries and tries and tries, but we have an aging fanbase that can't make noise and leaves early. I don't know what the answer is. We certainly can't depend on our alum base (too geographically scattered and small anyway) and the students have shown little interest in showing up regularly en masse when they have started their semester, be they bribed, bought, or coerced.
As an alum I love that Fitz is finding a way to win at Northwestern, but it is an incredibly boring style of football for the average fan.I don’t know how you get locals that don’t have ties to the University become fans. I only know of a couple instances where a smaller private school has done it. Those places are Georgetown and Miami. Part of it was performance, but part of it was having players that locals could identify with. I don’t think NU has the right type of team to do what those programs did.
It's in the early planning stages now. FYI.There's just not much we can do, I mean the team has had about as much success as is historically reasonable (compare that to Illinois for example).
I think rebuilding the stadium will help give us a chance to really attract new people, but there's really just not much that can be done except to keep winning, spend on a big stadium renovation, and keep trying to build the brand locally/nationally.
It's just hard for an elite private school to appeal to locals when most of its students come from outside the state and alums leave the state upon graduation.
If we'd had this kind of success in the 70s-80s, would have been able to build something more permanent. Now? It's near impossible given the million things people have to do/teams to support locally/etc.
Stadium renovation and what we can do to really try to bring people in after that is basically where rubber meets the road.
They do, but I meant for basketball.Georgetown has a football team?
As an alum I love that Fitz is finding a way to win at Northwestern, but it is an incredibly boring style of football for the average fan.
Yes, but what way could we win while getting the athletes required to win in that way?As an alum I love that Fitz is finding a way to win at Northwestern, but it is an incredibly boring style of football for the average fan.
I agree with you but it wont draw the average fan.Yes, but what way could we win while getting the athletes required to win in that way?
We're never going to get guys that can run faster or jump higher than the guys at Ohio State.
This is probably the only way we can win; suffocating D with a ball control offense. It's going to look boring, but it reduces your opponents possessions while giving us the best chance to win.
Because right now things are being affected by Covid; especially in a place like Evanston where people are probably more hesitant to be in crowds than other areas.Solution: Give away tickets for free to anyone local who has no other B1G allegiances and is aware that NU is giving them to then. They’re more likely than not to wear purple or black and cheer on our team.
It is depressing to watch 30K empty seats even on replay. Why didn’t Phillips or Polisky think of this? Were they - or Fitz - truly happy with this crap showing?
I don't even want to imagine Northwestern attendance if we'd had the last 15-20 years that Illinois had.Until people feel safe during the pandemic we really cannot judge on our ability to attract fans.
Don't underrate the importance of winning too.
Miami was mentioned as a team that "attracts the locals". Sure, when they were "The U" and winning National Championships.
As soon as they went down...here are some Miami crowds.
The team enters, just minutes before kickoff.
Different game at halftime, sure some had gone to buy something but you get the idea
Article (from 2019 so pre-Covid). College football attendance reaches historic low -
College Football Attendance at Lowest Mark in 22 Years, But Is That Really a Bad Thing?
It's hard to imagine Saturdays in the fall without a heavy dose of college football. Whether you can be found outside your favorite team's stadium cooking on your grill of choice or sitting at home where the beer is cold and your gigantic television never misses a moment, the allure of the...fanbuzz.com
It seemed about 30-40% full and since it holds 47k that would be about 15k Probably the ESPN numbrs are paid tickets and not actual attendance. That would include ST and probably some figure for students even when school does not start for another couple weeksI don’t know how the count ESPN gives differs from reality, but it say 26,181.
Thats silly. I think our progression to any next level is continuing. Nothing will stop that progress.And this is what will keep NU from getting to the next level.
Student attendance wasn’t that bad either game. We are in section 110 near the students. Michigan State was probably 3/4 full to the top in the student section and yesterday was probably 1/3 full. Not really that bad considering school hasn’t started.It seemed about 30-40% full and since it holds 47k that would be about 15k Probably the ESPN numbrs are paid tickets and not actual attendance. That would include ST and probably some figure for students even when school does not start for another couple weeks
It looked pretty bad yesterday on TV.Student attendance wasn’t that bad either game. We are in section 110 near the students. Michigan State was probably 3/4 full to the top in the student section and yesterday was probably 1/3 full. Not really that bad considering school hasn’t started.
Then wouldn't Duke be a good example?They do, but I meant for basketball.
Don't think our decision makers will either.I really wouldn't use an 11:00 AM game against Indiana State on a hot day in the middle of a pandemic as the best gauge for NU attendance.
It was a non con game against an FCS opponent in the age of COVID and we are not dOSU. Not sure what you expect. I was there but a lot of the usuals around me were no longer thereIt looked pretty bad yesterday on TV.
Honestly would not be a surprise if something closer to a majority of the fans in the stands at major state universities didn't attend the school.We see these threads every year. It's very hard to attract huge crowds with an undergraduate population of well under 10,000 and a relatively small alumni base that is scattered across the U.S. And you don't have the state in the name of your university. I guarantee that in any Penn State crowd you'll have thousands of people who never attended the university. And NU is not only a small, private school. It's a small, private school located next door to a huge city with multiple pro sports teams and other entertainment options. Thousands of fans who could afford NU season tickets are attending Bears games. If they revamp the stadium, I'd cut out about 10,000 seats, jazz up the concessions, and make it a comfortable experience for our fans.
We have non of the cache that State that even indirect affiliation with the state university offers. UofI has over over 200K of alums that are within traveling distance ( While we have all of about 15K) but they also offer a draw for anyone who lives in IL. I would guess that ST holders are still basically alumsHonestly would not be a surprise if something closer to a majority of the fans in the stands at major state universities didn't attend the school.
Also helps that a lot of the big flagships have tons of regional campuses and such with the name; a lot of those students end up supporting the main flagship even if they never attended the main flagship.
On the other hand, who wants to go to Champaign?We have non of the cache that State that even indirect affiliation with the state university offers. UofI has over over 200K of alums that are within traveling distance ( While we have all of about 15K) but they also offer a draw for anyone who lives in IL. I would guess that ST holders are still basically alums
Myself and many others from Evanston, Wilmette, Etc, area have been die hard fans since young and still prefer NU sports over our college's teams. Guess were a unique crewI don’t know how you get locals that don’t have ties to the University become fans. I only know of a couple instances where a smaller private school has done it. Those places are Georgetown and Miami. Part of it was performance, but part of it was having players that locals could identify with. I don’t think NU has the right type of team to do what those programs did.