I would like to understand how jumping into, through with a knee, and almost on top of and nearly pancaking someone isn't a flagrant foul 1 at all, yet the 2 or 3 times we've gotten flagrant 2's this year are. Just curious.
I would like to understand…
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The traveling call is dubious and perhaps technically correct depending on the timing of his foot placement, but there can still be a flagrant 1 for a dangerous play that was not close to making any impact on the ball or where the player was headed, no? Flagrant can obviously still happen after the play was theoretically paused even if an inadvertent whistle.
It was such bullshit. The ref close to the play had a foul and that bozo 50 feet away from the play overruled him with a walk. How does that make any sense??
It’s because the bozo was busy trying to save face because right before that he called it out on NU and one of the other refs with a better view overruled him. Possibly the worst make up call I’ve ever seen in any sporting event
Leach didn’t travel until the USC guy hit him with the “off the top rope” suplex WWF move.
We always get Larry Scirotto who is the absolute worst. He gets fired from his job as a police officer for being incompetent yet he keeps getting invited by the conference to #%*} up our games.
Larry usually ends up making the game about himself instead of the players.
tbh, I don't understand how any reasonable review of that play doesn't change it to a flagrant 1. Dude just jumped on top of Leach, and maybe accidentally kneed him in the head. No play on the ball, no attempt to make a play on the ball. And it isn't even like Leach did anything fancy to trick him or confuse him.
Larry does pretty much always suck as a ref. Sometimes he's less one sided about it, but I don't think I've seen a game with him that didn't turn into a series of coaches talking at him because he's incompetent and smug about making bad calls.
Larry does pretty much always suck as a ref. Sometimes he's less one sided about it, but I don't think I've seen a game with him that didn't turn into a series of coaches talking at him because he's incompetent and smug about making bad calls.
To be clear I’m not saying I think it absolutely should be a flagrant 1 in a vacuum, I’m just saying that it could have been - and it’s ridiculous that we’ve had multiple key players ejected with flagrant 2 on review for much lighter contact that was far less dangerous to anyone involved. And that is very frustrating to me.
I haven't reviewed it in slo-mo, but from my seeing it live and then on the big screen, it honestly looked like a flagrant 1 even in a vacuum. Maybe not, but I'm pretty sure Leach took a shot to the head from a defender using "unreasonably rough tactics". Although I haven't found any specific rule against jumping on your opponent.
I was stunned when the free throw wrestling match resulted in a foul on Agee and not an ejection for Matt and a game-deciding award of techincal free throws for USC. That had #refshow written all over it and this Larry clown does not pass those up.
The fly by should have been a flagrant, end of story. It was a bad miss by the officials and considering there was an injury on the play I don’t get why they didn’t take another look.
The fly by should have been a flagrant, end of story. It was a bad miss by the officials and considering there was an injury on the play I don’t get why they didn’t take another look.
Shocking that we didn’t get screwed on that hook and hold. The little noche reviews that college has, the hook and hold,, groin, those things have got to go.
I hate the "hook and hold" rule. Almost by definition, it's a reciprocal act. If you are hooking and holding someone, he is also hooking and holding you. I see replays of this all the time where you can't tell who initiated it or who was disadvantaged, yet they seemingly arbitrarily choose which guy to punish.
I was re-reading the fouls section in the rule book to see if they had anything about jumping on a player (they do, but it's for using a teammate to get higher up off the ground, lol), and the rules they have are almost comical in the way everyone on every team is technically fouling on pretty much every play that isn't an uncontested shot, from the point at which the defender meets the ball handler at the coming across the half court line and all the way down to post play.
It feels a bit like the holding call in football. Everyone is guilty on most plays, it just depends on how the refs feel in the moment.
It feels a bit like the holding call in football. Everyone is guilty on most plays, it just depends on how the refs feel in the moment.
That is what I thought should have been called at the time. Dangerous blow to the head. Flagrant 1 at least
