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Is it all going down the drain?

Pure entertainment. It's like watching a car wreck.
At least you don’t get locked out if this board like Doug does to anyone that even tells facts on your football board.

I do find it humorous the Illini Faithful that used to poke fun relentlessly at NU in the 80’s have been supporting a program the last decade that is NU of the 80’s.
 
You mean like your so-called football program? LOSERS, again, again and again!
Oh, a whataboutism on a Northwestern basketball forum. Nice! Yep, our football team has been bad, yet it hasn't quite matched up to Northwestern basketball.

Sharpen your knife. It isn't cutting anything.
 
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Oh, a whataboutism on a Northwestern basketball forum. Nice! Yep, our football team has been bad, yet it hasn't quite matched up to Northwestern basketball.

Sharpen your knife. It isn't cutting anything.
Maybe a knife isn’t needed when evaluating the state of the Fighting Lovies. They are well on their way to the worse decade in the history of the program. Last 3 coaches- Lovie 4-23, Cubit 2-6, Becky 4-20. That would be an unreal 10-49 conference record!

So keep on gleefully ripping on the NU BB team because it wasn’t good at all and it is easy to do after having its worst season of the decade. However, to stand up your football team as “not as bad” is amusing and reeks of homerism. So you have had your fun, go back to your board and tell each other how you are going to win the Big Ten next year.

Do I need to sharpen my knife more?
 
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Maybe a knife isn’t needed when evaluating the state of the Fighting Lovies. They are well on their way to the worse decade in the history of the program. Last 3 coaches- Lovie 4-23, Cubit 2-6, Becky 4-20. That would be an unreal 10-49 conference record!

So keep on gleefully ripping on the NU BB team because it wasn’t good at all and it is easy to do after having its worst season of the decade. However, to stand up your football team as “not as bad” is amusing and reeks of homerism. So you have had your fun, go back to your board and tell each other how you are going to win the Big Ten next year.

Do I need to sharpen my knife more?
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Yes, you trying to change the subject to football is both not hurtful and also a weak insult.

NW basketball has made 1 postseason ever. They capitalized on that by becoming a complete dumpster fire and returning to the bottom of the conference. It's sad when Rutgers is objectively better than you.
 
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Yes, you trying to change the subject to football is both not hurtful and also a weak insult.

NW basketball has made 1 postseason ever. They capitalized on that by becoming a complete dumpster fire and returning to the bottom of the conference. It's sad when Rutgers is objectively better than you.
In the storied 114-year history of Illini basketball, the otters have never lost even 20 games. This year, they lost 21. But yeah, next year will be a complete reversal and they will be solidly in the Dance...
 
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Yes, you trying to change the subject to football is both not hurtful and also a weak insult.

NW basketball has made 1 postseason ever. They capitalized on that by becoming a complete dumpster fire and returning to the bottom of the conference. It's sad when Rutgers is objectively better than you.
I change it even further. The Illinois Athletic department is in complete shambles. It has about 2 -3 programs total that are above average. One of them competes in a sport with 17 D 1 programs, but keep puffing out your chests just like I got to see the arrogance first hand for the last 30 years. Now go back to your own board and tell each other how much better you are than the mildcats after finishing with a worse record and dominating them in an OT game between bottom feeders this year. Be proud that you set the record for most losses in a season and lost to Florida Atlantic. A once proud program is reduced to posting on the boards of a dumpster fire of a program. Pathetic.
 
Pure entertainment. It's like watching a car wreck.

14 years ago, Illinois fans got to watch their team play in the national title game. Now they’re reduced to talking smack on the board of the worst major conference basketball program of all-time. We’re supposed to suck, the fact that the flagship university in a state with as much basketball talent as Illinois hasn’t made the sweet 16 since 2005 is astonishing.
 
In the storied 114-year history of Illini basketball, the otters have never lost even 20 games. This year, they lost 21. But yeah, next year will be a complete reversal and they will be solidly in the Dance...
Ecat is to OSU as you are to Illinoy. I love it!

I hate that they beat us twice this year and are in better shape next year, but my bet is that Collins brings in some talent to set things good again.
 
I change it even further. The Illinois Athletic department is in complete shambles. It has about 2 -3 programs total that are above average. One of them competes in a sport with 17 D 1 programs, but keep puffing out your chests just like I got to see the arrogance first hand for the last 30 years. Now go back to your own board and tell each other how much better you are than the mildcats after finishing with a worse record and dominating them in an OT game between bottom feeders this year. Be proud that you set the record for most losses in a season and lost to Florida Atlantic. A once proud program is reduced to posting on the boards of a dumpster fire of a program. Pathetic.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun watching you guys come to the realization that you are not going to be good for a long time.

In the storied 114-year history of Illini basketball, the otters have never lost even 20 games. This year, they lost 21. But yeah, next year will be a complete reversal and they will be solidly in the Dance...

Crazy right. It won't be too hard to be a bubble team for us. The two wins we get against you won't be much of a resume builder, unfortunately.

..the board of the worst major conference basketball program of all-time.
Good to see some semblance of self-awareness.
 
Yeah, it's a lot of fun watching you guys come to the realization that you are not going to be good for a long time.



Crazy right. It won't be too hard to be a bubble team for us. The two wins we get against you won't be much of a resume builder, unfortunately.


Good to see some semblance of self-awareness.

You literally make my point on the arrogance of the Fighting Undie fans. Get a top recruit and then pull Giorgi out of your ass and all of a sudden the creeps come out from behind the shadows. This is AFTER setting a record for most losses in a season. Now you are battling for titles. LOL. Can you at least become average before you troll.

The program was good at one time. It’s too bad the Administration continues to run the athletic program down to the bottom of the rung in P5. Putrid hires in the Athletic Department and little support by the BOT have doomed the product. We’ll wait and see who transfers, gets kicked off the team, or gets denied admission by that crack staff down in CU, before we concede.

Just go away pal.
 
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You literally make my point on the arrogance of the Fighting Undie fans. Get a top recruit and then pull Giorgi out of your ass and all of a sudden the creeps come out from behind the shadows. This is AFTER setting a record for most losses in a season. Now you are battling for titles. LOL. Can you at least become average before you troll.

The program was good at one time. It’s too bad the Administration continues to run the athletic program down to the bottom of the rung in P5. Putrid hires in the Athletic Department and little support by the BOT have doomed the product. We’ll wait and see who transfers, gets kicked off the team, or gets denied admission by that crack staff down in CU, before we concede.

Just go away pal.

And the amazing part was, they pull the lucky horseshoe (Giorgi B.,who only Hofstra wanted) at a position of need, have a NBA guard on the roster (Ayo) along with another talented guard (Frazier) and STILL managed to finish with the worst overall record in the BIG and last in the BIG in KenPom, Sagarin and the NET WITH all those players!!! Incredible!!!

Yeah, the Dance is imminent for them, because savior Kofi is coming! Lol. At 6'10 290, he will no doubt look great chasing players all over the court in BU's defensive scheme....And, assuming they lose zero players (a HUGE if given their history) they still need a true 4 and a wing shooter.
 
Crazy right. It won't be too hard to be a bubble team for us. The two wins we get against you won't be much of a resume builder, unfortunately.

Lol wut? From 12-21 to a bubble team won't be too hard? It would be one of the most amazing turnarounds in the history of your program, if not the most amazing. You predict that you are going to do that with all the question marks you still have as a team that Kofi isn't going to erase in one fell swoop? Good luck with that!
 
Lol wut? From 12-21 to a bubble team won't be too hard? It would be one of the most amazing turnarounds in the history of your program, if not the most amazing. You predict that you are going to do that with all the question marks you still have as a team that Kofi isn't going to erase in one fell swoop? Good luck with that!
Our program hasn't had many turnarounds because we're hardly ever bad. We need a couple guys to fill the holes we have. We're bringing in a stud center. We will likely land TJ Holyfield as a grad transfer- both Duke and Kansas are trying to get him. Just need one more wing and our team is much better than last year. Looks like we're losing one guy to medical issues and potentially one more. We're returning over 70% of our minutes played on a young roster. If you can't see that adds up to a step forward, you don't know basketball.
 
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And the amazing part was, they pull the lucky horseshoe (Giorgi B.,who only Hofstra wanted) at a position of need, have a NBA guard on the roster (Ayo) along with another talented guard (Frazier) and STILL managed to finish with the worst overall record in the BIG and last in the BIG in KenPom, Sagarin and the NET WITH all those players!!! Incredible!!!

Yeah, the Dance is imminent for them, because savior Kofi is coming! Lol. At 6'10 290, he will no doubt look great chasing players all over the court in BU's defensive scheme....And, assuming they lose zero players (a HUGE if given their history) they still need a true 4 and a wing shooter.
We played the 11th most difficult schedule in the nation. We also finished ahead of a veteran Northwestern squad in the B1G. Had you guys not played the322nd worst non-con schedule in the nation, your record would have been even worse. Embarrassing what you guys did with a roster full of Juniors and Seniors. Now they're all gone.
 
We played the 11th most difficult schedule in the nation. We also finished ahead of a veteran Northwestern squad in the B1G. Had you guys not played the322nd worst non-con schedule in the nation, your record would have been even worse. Embarrassing what you guys did with a roster full of Juniors and Seniors. Now they're all gone.

I'm not sure I agree one hundred percent on your police work, there, Lou.

Pre season Illinois was ranked low 80's by KenPom and finished the season low 80's by KenPom.

I like a lot of what Illinois is doing, I like a lot of players on its roster, esp Georgi and Ayo, but you make it sound like Ali knocking out Sonny Liston. And Ayo may go....depends what the pro's tell him, how he does in camp if invited, etc., etc. He'd be dumb not to test it....and if they like him he'll jump.

A signal that Illinois has really been in the crapper for a long time is that you're coming onto the NU board and crowing about finishing ahead of a high academic school that you went 1-1 against this year. I'm sure we're all humbled.
 
You literally make my point on the arrogance of the Fighting Undie fans. Get a top recruit and then pull Giorgi out of your ass and all of a sudden the creeps come out from behind the shadows. This is AFTER setting a record for most losses in a season. Now you are battling for titles. LOL. Can you at least become average before you troll.

The program was good at one time. It’s too bad the Administration continues to run the athletic program down to the bottom of the rung in P5. Putrid hires in the Athletic Department and little support by the BOT have doomed the product. We’ll wait and see who transfers, gets kicked off the team, or gets denied admission by that crack staff down in CU, before we concede.

Just go away pal.
I'm not sure I agree one hundred percent on your police work, there, Lou.

Pre season Illinois was ranked low 80's by KenPom and finished the season low 80's by KenPom.

I like a lot of what Illinois is doing, I like a lot of players on its roster, esp Georgi and Ayo, but you make it sound like Ali knocking out Sonny Liston. And Ayo may go....depends what the pro's tell him, how he does in camp if invited, etc., etc. He'd be dumb not to test it....and if they like him he'll jump.

A signal that Illinois has really been in the crapper for a long time is that you're coming onto the NU board and crowing about finishing ahead of a high academic school that you went 1-1 against this year. I'm sure we're all humbled.
A Fargo reference. That's what I appreciates about ya.

If you look at how KenPom evaluates minutes returning, Illinois is a top 40 team next season on KP. That's at the least a bubble team. Then again, look where Northwestern started the season, and look at how you performed.
 
This is why college sports are great. Fans of two bad college teams, arguing about which is worse. Meanwhile, both have been in the offseason for two weeks, while the rest of the teams in the sport continue with their postseason play. The next time either of these teams will play a game is eight months away, and none of this even matters because both will be projected to be on the wrong side of the conference median line in the preseason rankings. And yet, here we are.

I’m not even being sarcastic, this is why college sports are fun. Carry on!
 
Our program hasn't had many turnarounds because we're hardly ever bad. We need a couple guys to fill the holes we have. We're bringing in a stud center. We will likely land TJ Holyfield as a grad transfer- both Duke and Kansas are trying to get him. Just need one more wing and our team is much better than last year. Looks like we're losing one guy to medical issues and potentially one more. We're returning over 70% of our minutes played on a young roster. If you can't see that adds up to a step forward, you don't know basketball.
Wow, you're bragging about bringing back 70% of the roster that lost a record 21 games. Sounds like it's you who knows nothing about basketball.
 
A Fargo reference. That's what I appreciates about ya.

If you look at how KenPom evaluates minutes returning, Illinois is a top 40 team next season on KP. That's at the least a bubble team. Then again, look where Northwestern started the season, and look at how you performed.
What part of “just go away” did you not understand?
 
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What part of “just go away” did you not understand?
It's cute that you thought that you have that sort of authority.
Wow, you're bragging about bringing back 70% of the roster that lost a record 21 games. Sounds like it's you who knows nothing about basketball.
Iowa lost 19 last year against a much easier schedule. It's almost like continuity and experience matter. Weird that statisticians use that as a predictive metric when willycat says it's not important.

They finished the previous season 88th on Kenpom, returned 72% of minutes, started out 34th, and finished this season 23-12 and 38th on Kenpom.
 
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It's cute that you thought that you have that sort of authority.

Iowa lost 19 last year against a much easier schedule. It's almost like continuity and experience matter. Weird that statisticians use that as a predictive metric when willycat says it's not important.
The Fighting Undies will be very average next year and somehow I bet we don’t see you much. Of course, NU can do what the Illini do and just block trolls. Go away, corn man.
 
A Fargo reference. That's what I appreciates about ya.

If you look at how KenPom evaluates minutes returning, Illinois is a top 40 team next season on KP. That's at the least a bubble team. Then again, look where Northwestern started the season, and look at how you performed.

I haven't played competitive basketball in about ten years, since my last knee operation.

I agree that Illinois has the potential to be good next year, more balance than this year and a unified understanding of the system and expectations. But the range of possible outcomes is still wide. Georgi and Ayo are good citizens, if the team follows their model Illinois will finish toward the higher end of possible outcomes.

Northwestern started the season picked last or bottom three/four by virtually every expert. That is because NU had no point guard. NU finished within the range of where most experts expected.

You seem to have difficulty with facts.
 
I haven't played competitive basketball in about ten years, since my last knee operation.

I agree that Illinois has the potential to be good next year, more balance than this year and a unified understanding of the system and expectations. But the range of possible outcomes is still wide. Georgi and Ayo are good citizens, if the team follows their model Illinois will finish toward the higher end of possible outcomes.

Northwestern started the season picked last or bottom three/four by virtually every expert. That is because NU had no point guard. NU finished within the range of where most experts expected.

You seem to have difficulty with facts.
Just curious, what does your basketball experience and knee operation have to do with the rest of your post? It seemed like you were leading somewhere, but you never address it again.

And what fact did I struggle with? You started this season 54th. That's a team with an outside shot at the bubble. You finished 75th. The previous season you went from 18th to 88. My point was that we would start out the season as a top 40 team on KP, but as you've proven, that's not necessarily indicative of where you'd finish.

The Fighting Undies will be very average next year and somehow I bet we don’t see you much. Of course, NU can do what the Illini do and just block trolls. Go away, corn man.
A lot of wishful thinking on this post.
 
It's cute that you thought that you have that sort of authority.

Iowa lost 19 last year against a much easier schedule. It's almost like continuity and experience matter. Weird that statisticians use that as a predictive metric when willycat says it's not important.

They finished the previous season 88th on Kenpom, returned 72% of minutes, started out 34th, and finished this season 23-12 and 38th on Kenpom.
Ok, I finally got it. On paper you’ve got it all figured out. Can you petition the NCAA so you can skip the playing part? The arrogance is hilarious.
 
Ok, I finally got it. On paper you’ve got it all figured out. Can you petition the NCAA so you can skip the playing part? The arrogance is hilarious.
I'd rather not skip the playing. Beating Northwestern is like eating corn flakes; No one gets excited about it, but you just do it routinely and then go about your business.

It was really funny watching you guys arrogantly talk about a Final 4 the year after making your first ever dance. It's even funnier looking at where you are now.
 
I'd rather not skip the playing. Beating Northwestern is like eating corn flakes; No one gets excited about it, but you just do it routinely and then go about your business.

It was really funny watching you guys arrogantly talk about a Final 4 the year after making your first ever dance. It's even funnier looking at where you are now.
Actually it was media oeople who talked about that; people in this board merely responded to that. What is REALLY amusing is the posters on Loyalry sayin withiut any media prompting, that the Illini will somehow turn this dumpster fiire of a season they had into 14 conference wins next season , when the Illini have not had even 13 conference wins since 2005. And all of this after an absolute joke of a season -- Kofi will be our saviour, OUR SAVIOR I TELL YOU! Talk about delusion. .
 
I'd rather not skip the playing. Beating Northwestern is like eating corn flakes; No one gets excited about it, but you just do it routinely and then go about your business.

It was really funny watching you guys arrogantly talk about a Final 4 the year after making your first ever dance. It's even funnier looking at where you are now.
If “beating Northwestern is like cornflakes”, then why is it all you talk about or focus upon? Is it because all of your athletic programs have been a dumpster fire? Keep in mind that our football program has dominated yours since 2000.

What does that say about your life? To quote cat inkansas, do you have a job?
 
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I'd rather not skip the playing. Beating Northwestern is like eating corn flakes; No one gets excited about it, but you just do it routinely and then go about your business.

It was really funny watching you guys arrogantly talk about a Final 4 the year after making your first ever dance. It's even funnier looking at where you are now.
Look, this is what you said, “If you look at how KenPom evaluates minutes returning, Illinois is a top 40 team next season on KP. That's at the least a bubble team. Then again, look where Northwestern started the season, and look at how you performed.” Ok...This is what I meant when I said you’ve got it all figured out. Hey there genius, everyone is Nostradamus in hindsight.

You claim beating NU is like eating cornflakes? You wish. You’re epically failing to appear like you don’t care. I suggest you measure your attitude by flipping the scenario: how does it feel when you lose to NU? Any sport. Your desperate to troll but you can’t. You’re too easy to read.
 
Guy can't even understand that KenPom, Sagarin, and the NET rankings TAKE INTO ACCOUNT STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE! So when the Illini finished last in the BIG in all those metrics, the people who crunch those numbers were saying "lolIllini, despite your noncon SOS, you didn't actually beat anyone in the noncon and you lost to Florida freakin' Atlantic; ergo, you still suck".

Hope he comes back to help us out some more, though-- all of us 360 dunking on him is so entertaining!
 
At least you don’t get locked out if this board like Doug does to anyone that even tells facts on your football board.

I do find it humorous the Illini Faithful that used to poke fun relentlessly at NU in the 80’s have been supporting a program the last decade that is NU of the 80’s.
No one is quite as bad as that and when Duke got close, we let them off the hook
 
Actually it was media oeople who talked about that; people in this board merely responded to that. What is REALLY amusing is the posters on Loyalry sayin withiut any media prompting, that the Illini will somehow turn this dumpster fiire of a season they had into 14 conference wins next season , when the Illini have not had even 13 conference wins since 2005. And all of this after an absolute joke of a season -- Kofi will be our saviour, OUR SAVIOR I TELL YOU! Talk about delusion. .
I don't read any northwestern articles. It was on this board. Loyalty is full of morons. That poster probably thought you guys would make a final 4 too.
 
If “beating Northwestern is like cornflakes”, then why is it all you talk about or focus upon? Is it because all of your athletic programs have been a dumpster fire? Keep in mind that our football program has dominated yours since 2000.

What does that say about your life? To quote cat inkansas, do you have a job?
I'm an engineer part time, and I trash you losers full time.
 
Guy can't even understand that KenPom, Sagarin, and the NET rankings TAKE INTO ACCOUNT STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE! So when the Illini finished last in the BIG in all those metrics, the people who crunch those numbers were saying "lolIllini, despite your noncon SOS, you didn't actually beat anyone in the noncon and you lost to Florida freakin' Atlantic; ergo, you still suck".

Hope he comes back to help us out some more, though-- all of us 360 dunking on him is so entertaining!
You guys lost to us at the end of the season. I think that tells you all you need to know about how our teams tended over the course of the season. Your veteran-laden team got beat by a bunch of freshman and sophomores who were learning how to play college basketball. Illinois sent you home crying.
 
You guys lost to us at the end of the season. I think that tells you all you need to know about how our teams tended over the course of the season. Your veteran-laden team got beat by a bunch of freshman and sophomores who were learning how to play college basketball. Illinois sent you home crying.
Lol, time to dunk on you again! We lost to you WITHOUT our best offensive and defensive player, one of thise very veterans you eedernce in you post.! With him, we beat you easily. Even without him, it took overtime for you to beat us, even though you had zero injuries! And then you got absolutely smoked in the next round! Nice positive "tending" for your team, tho! Please post moar, thus is too much fun!
 
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I don't read any northwestern articles. It was on this board. Loyalty is full of morons. That poster probably thought you guys would make a final 4 too.
Uh, it was on this board because we were commenting on a Clark Kellog observation; perhaps you have heard of him. The thoughts did not originate on this board, unlike the ridic 14 BIG win posts, which only exist in the delusional minds of posters on an Illini fan board. How mant BIG wins do you think the Illini will have next year?
 
Lol, time to dunk on you again! We lost to you WITHOUT our best offensive and defensive player, one of thise very veterans you eedernce in you post.! With him, we beat you easily.

Not to get too involved in this but, no. You didn't, just 10 days prior when he did play. He was pretty bad, only 9 points and fouled out.
 
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