Kain Colter very very very sad

[T_Levine]

Kain Colter Facing Several Domestic Violence Charges, Described As "Indigent" In Court Filings | Defector

Over the last few years, as the uprising Colter helped spark got more and more attention, he all but disappeared from public view. Yet public records paint an ugly picture of what Colter, now 29 years old, has been up to.

defector.com

 

[Titanium999]

Kain Colter Facing Several Domestic Violence Charges, Described As "Indigent" In Court Filings | Defector

Over the last few years, as the uprising Colter helped spark got more and more attention, he all but disappeared from public view. Yet public records paint an ugly picture of what Colter, now 29 years old, has been up to.

defector.com

Concussions are very dangerous. Wrassler had over 30 amateur boxing matches. Besides college wrestling. Just too much pounding on the head. I saw Kain get Concussions in one game

 

[NUCat320]

That’s a really sad story.

 

[FeralFelidae]

Concussions are very dangerous. Wrassler had over 30 amateur boxing matches.

It causes people to refer to themselves in the third person.

 

[epicbret]

This is terrible to hear.

 

[Katatonic]

Is Kain related to Ann Coulter?

 

[Williesfan]

Kain Colter Facing Several Domestic Violence Charges, Described As "Indigent" In Court Filings | Defector

Over the last few years, as the uprising Colter helped spark got more and more attention, he all but disappeared from public view. Yet public records paint an ugly picture of what Colter, now 29 years old, has been up to.

defector.com

I just hope that our fans remember this tragic tale when other universities athletes find themselves in trouble. Hopefully he can find a remedy to these troubling times.

 

[Frabjous]

College athletes should get lifetime medical benefits for their sports-related injuries.

 

[loyolacat]

THe whole thing is sad but the saddest to me is that it appears him and Fitz are not close.....you would really hope that the relationships he had made would have found him a port in the storm

 

[FeralFelidae]

College athletes should get lifetime medical benefits for their sports-related injuries.

I think that's a fair point, but I'm not sure that would have prevented this. I don't think we (this board) know enough to diagnose exactly what's going on with him.

 

[FeralFelidae]

THe whole thing is sad but the saddest to me is that it appears him and Fitz are not close.....you would really hope that the relationships he had made would have found him a port in the storm

I'm not exactly sure what Fitz would be expected to do if Colter is suffering a mental health breakdown. If there's something he could do to help, I think he's the type of person who would.

 

[musiCat]

THe whole thing is sad but the saddest to me is that it appears him and Fitz are not close.....you would really hope that the relationships he had made would have found him a port in the storm

Didn't Colter refer to Fitz as "the boss man" when testifying on behalf of unionization? Proposing an analogy to chattel slavery (which is how I interpreted his comments) was probably not the ticket to a long term healthy relationship with a former coach!

 

[Frabjous]

I think that's a fair point, but I'm not sure that would have prevented this. I don't think we (this board) know enough to diagnose exactly what's going on with him.

You are right. It takes a Neurologist to diagnose and treat a head injury that may lead to violent behavior. That would be a good investment for Kain Colter, and the rest of us.

 

[FeralFelidae]

You are right. It takes a Neurologist to diagnose and treat a head injury that may lead to violent behavior. That would be a good investment for Kain Colter, and the rest of us.

Perhaps. Do you know what type of treatment Kain Colter did or did not receive for head injuries?

He's at an age when certain mental health conditions, not caused by a head injury, can manifest. I saw this tragically happen with Chris Craig from UTEP, who was a promising up-and-coming coach until things happened that threw it all away.

https://vault.si.com/vault/2014/12/01/a-coach-unbalanced

 

[WestCoastWildcat]

College athletes should get lifetime medical benefits for their sports-related injuries.

I advocate health care for all college athletes who compete. I’ve had concussions from
football and once in basketball (I was going up
for a layup and got shoved headfirst into a brick wall- they hadn’t put up the protective pads).
I think about Junior Seau and his long career and the post-suicide diagnosis of CTE. I pray the specialists can find ways to prevent and protect athletes from head trauma. Soccer players knock heads all the time jumping up to head the ball. I’ve seen the children of too many friends suffer concussions during soccer matches. I hope all athletes suffer head trauma can gain access to medical assistance before they suffer further tragedy like Junior.

 

[willycat]

Didn't Colter refer to Fitz as "the boss man" when testifying on behalf of unionization? Proposing an analogy to chattel slavery (which is how I interpreted his comments) was probably not the ticket to a long term healthy relationship with a former coach!

So?

 

[StreamCat]

I think that's a fair point, but I'm not sure that would have prevented this. I don't think we (this board) know enough to diagnose exactly what's going on with him.

We are experts in everything else. Why not this?

 

[phatcat]

So?

Precisely. Fitz, please read Matthew 5;40

 

[The Purple Knight]

Colter is obviously is a deeply troubled and flawed individual and likely had these issue long before stepping on Ryan Field. Not buying CTE as the cause for all former athletes bad behavior without a brain scan. Colters “activism” never felt genuine and it sounds like Fitz agreed.

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

Colter is obviously is a deeply troubled and flawed individual and likely had these issue long before stepping on Ryan Field. Not buying CTE as the cause for all former athletes bad behavior without a brain scan. Colters “activism” never felt genuine and it sounds like Fitz agreed.

I tend to agree with some of this. Don’t blame CTE on you acting like a lunatic without a proper brain scan. You see it happen too often. In this case, Kain was a completely abusive stalker who would not leave this woman alone, nor respect authority trying to protect her. He has problems he needs to resolved, and let’s start with a proper brain scan before passing blame elsewhere.

 

[FeralFelidae]

I tend to agree with some of this. Don’t blame CTE on you acting like a lunatic without a proper brain scan. You see it happen too often. In this case, Kain was a completely abusive stalker who would not leave this woman alone, nor respect authority trying to protect her. He has problems he needs to resolved, and let’s start with a proper brain scan before passing blame elsewhere.

Colter seems to be under the impression that "this woman" is his wife...

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

Colter seems to be under the impression that "this woman" is his wife...

He identified her as his wife. Has she identified her as her husband? She seems to be scared to death of him.

 

[ohiovalleycat]

Not seeing this story about Kain Colter anywhere other than this "Defector" website. One other place I see it has a brief blurb but then provides referral to the Defector website. Is there a reason the story has not been picked on more traditional, mainstream media outlets -whether local or national?

 

[Gladeskat]

I tend to agree with some of this. Don’t blame CTE on you acting like a lunatic without a proper brain scan. You see it happen too often. In this case, Kain was a completely abusive stalker who would not leave this woman alone, nor respect authority trying to protect her. He has problems he needs to resolved, and let’s start with a proper brain scan before passing blame elsewhere.

CTE cannot be diagnosed from a brain scan. It's diagnosed only by examining thin sections of brain tissue for lesions after the subject has died. Other potential issues need to be examined first such as alcoholism or drug abuse, and then possible psychiatric issues investigated.

 

[FeralFelidae]

Other potential issues need to be examined first such as alcoholism or drug abuse, and then possible psychiatric issues investigated.

Sometimes those issues are all related...

 

[Gladeskat]

Sometimes those issues are all related...

Yes, but one cannot diagnose and address these issues until possible effects of alcohol and drug use are accounted for. Antisocial behavior brought on by alcohol abuse was to blame for Braden Jones's erratic behavior years ago.

Tough to diagnose real depression with concurrent use of alcohol, which is also a depressant.

 

[NUCat320]

Not seeing this story about Kain Colter anywhere other than this "Defector" website. One other place I see it has a brief blurb but then provides referral to the Defector website. Is there a reason the story has not been picked on more traditional, mainstream media outlets -whether local or national?

Because Kain Colter is not a person that the average person is interested in. Defector is the former deadspin, and does quite a bit of in-depth reporting about otherwise untold sports and sport-adjacent stories. Colter was of particular interest to the deadspin (and now Defector) audience, which tends to lean left and therefore is generally interested in issues that were important to Colter.

 

[CatManTrue]

Yes, but one cannot diagnose and address these issues until possible effects of alcohol and drug use are accounted for. Antisocial behavior brought on by alcohol abuse was to blame for Braden Jones's erratic behavior years ago.

Tough to diagnose real depression with concurrent use of alcohol, which is also a depressant.

I’m pretty sure the brain damage Braden suffered at the hands of that POS from Vanderbilt played a part in his drinking / troubles.

He sure turned it around though. Last I heard became an orthopedic surgeon after his time in the NFL.

 

[Gladeskat]

I’m pretty sure the brain damage Braden suffered at the hands of that POS from Vanderbilt played a part in his drinking / troubles.

He sure turned it around though. Last I heard became an orthopedic surgeon after his time in the NFL.

He had a drinking/violence problem when he started the fight with the Vandy player. How do you think the fight happened?

 

[Turk]

Kain Colter Facing Several Domestic Violence Charges, Described As "Indigent" In Court Filings | Defector

Over the last few years, as the uprising Colter helped spark got more and more attention, he all but disappeared from public view. Yet public records paint an ugly picture of what Colter, now 29 years old, has been up to.

defector.com

He will be fine. He just is taking the long way around the block. Many of us were worse off.

 

[CatManTrue]

He had a drinking/violence problem when he started the fight with the Vandy player. How do you think the fight happened?

He could be a smartass but wasn’t that dumb. He got assaulted by four assholes, one of whom was charged with felony aggravated assault.

NU recruit suffers head injuries in Vanderbilt fight

Incoming freshman linebacker Braden Jones suffered two severe bruises to the right side of his brain and cuts around his right eye after being assaulted early Saturday morning by a Vanderbilt football player outside a fraternity house on the Vanderbilt campus in Nashville, Tenn., police said...

dailynorthwestern.com

 

[CatManTrue]

He will be fine. He just is taking the long way around the block. Many of us were worse off.

Is that from the Bible?

 

[CoralSpringsCat]

I’m pretty sure the brain damage Braden suffered at the hands of that POS from Vanderbilt played a part in his drinking / troubles.

He sure turned it around though. Last I heard became an orthopedic surgeon after his time in the NFL.

Looks like Jones is in Colorado as well.

Orthopedic Surgeon Braden Jones Ortho Southwest Health System

Dr. Braden Jones joins Southwest Medical Group's Specialty Care team. He performs partial and total knee replacement, minimally invasive hip replacement, total shoulder and reverse total shoulder replacement, as well as adult and pediatric fracture care of the upper and lower extremities. He is...

www.swhealth.org

 

[Turk]

Is that from the Bible?

Rosebud

 

[Gladeskat]

He could be a smartass but wasn’t that dumb. He got assaulted by four assholes, one of whom was charged with felony aggravated assault.

NU recruit suffers head injuries in Vanderbilt fight

Incoming freshman linebacker Braden Jones suffered two severe bruises to the right side of his brain and cuts around his right eye after being assaulted early Saturday morning by a Vanderbilt football player outside a fraternity house on the Vanderbilt campus in Nashville, Tenn., police said...

dailynorthwestern.com

No. Actually, he was that fricking dumb. Much like he was when he punched the security cop at a NU football game as well as the two other assaults he was arrested for while at NU.

Jones had been drinking and started the trash-talking at about 4 AM. He initiated the contact with Wolford and Wolford ended it. The case was dismissed as Wolford acted in self-defense.

Fortunately, Jones straightened himself out after being kicked out of the NU program and has gone on to become a doctor.

Charges Dismissed Against Vandy Player

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) _ A judge dismissed aggravated assault charges against Vanderbilt linebacker Doug Wolford, saying he acted in self-defense during a fight last summer with a Northwestern player.

apnews.com

 

[CatManTrue]

No. Actually, he was that fricking dumb. Much like he was when he punched the security cop at a NU football game as well as the two other assaults he was arrested for while at NU.

Jones had been drinking and started the trash-talking at about 4 AM. He initiated the contact with Wolford and Wolford ended it. The case was dismissed as Wolford acted in self-defense.

Fortunately, Jones straightened himself out after being kicked out of the NU program and has gone on to become a doctor.

Charges Dismissed Against Vandy Player

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) _ A judge dismissed aggravated assault charges against Vanderbilt linebacker Doug Wolford, saying he acted in self-defense during a fight last summer with a Northwestern player.

apnews.com

How do you know with certainty that Braden’s later struggles weren’t tied to the neurological damage caused by that assault on his still developing brain? I suppose it could have been caused by all of the football he played.

And why wouldn’t the friends of that Vanderbilt student lie on his behalf? How is it self-defense when he continues hitting a guy who was knocked out by his head hitting the curb? I’m surprised at your devout faith in the Good Ole Boy’s legal system.

 

[VirginiaWildcat]

How do you know with certainty that Braden’s later struggles weren’t tied to the neurological damage caused by that assault on his still developing brain? I suppose it could have been caused by all of the football he played.

That’s a stretch. How about we just hold him accountable for his out-of-control actions instead of searching for excuses. Clearly he didn’t have enough neurological damage to turn his life around and become a doctor. He had real issues while attending NU, but glad to see that he made the necessary changes in his life to become something so vital and productive!

 

[Gladeskat]

How do you know with certainty that Braden’s later struggles weren’t tied to the neurological damage caused by that assault on his still developing brain? I suppose it could have been caused by all of the football he played.

And why wouldn’t the friends of that Vanderbilt student lie on his behalf? How is it self-defense when he continues hitting a guy who was knocked out by his head hitting the curb? I’m surprised at your devout faith in the Good Ole Boy’s legal system.

Because I researched the other side of the story, applied Occam's razor (parsimony), and didn't volunteer any unverified information about the fight. I also trust the legal system because it is based upon facts and evidence and I don't assume the judge was part of some "Good Ole Boy's legal system".

I'm not saying that his injury didn't affect his later behavior or that Wolford was free of sin on this matter. Jones was found to have three bruises on his brain afterward. But you have to provide evidence that those injuries were severe enough to cause his later assaults rather than these assaults being the result of poor behavior linked to a high BAC because BJ showed this behavior pattern at least FOUR times during his association with NU and it was ALWAYS linked to heavy drinking. Did he ever become extremely belligerent or assault anyone when he was sober?

 

[CatManTrue]

Because I researched the other side of the story, applied Occam's razor (parsimony), and didn't volunteer any unverified information about the fight. I also trust the legal system because it is based upon facts and evidence and I don't assume the judge was part of some "Good Ole Boy's legal system".

I'm not saying that his injury didn't affect his later behavior or that Wolford was free of sin on this matter. Jones was found to have three bruises on his brain afterward. But you have to provide evidence that those injuries were severe enough to cause his later assaults rather than these assaults being the result of poor behavior linked to a high BAC because BJ showed this behavior pattern at least FOUR times during his association with NU and it was ALWAYS linked to heavy drinking. Did he ever become extremely belligerent or assault anyone when he was sober?

I don’t know if he did. But I had a teammate who became rather belligerent and threatening when sober, even towards women. He didn’t last as long as he should have likely as a result. I suspect concussions as well as childhood abuse were the root of his issues. But he may have just been an asshole.

Point being, it’s well proven that concussions causes untold damage to young minds. I think that’s the cause of at least some of Kain’s troubles and hope he can turn it around like BJ and others have (although many haven’t).

 

[CatManTrue]

Rosebud

Are you suggesting that Orson Welles is the true creator and savior? Isn’t that blasphemy?