Langborg (and other Ivy Leaguers)
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The Ivy League only granted an extra year to athletes who were seniors during the Covid year, and not to anyone else. Thus Langborg only had one year of eligibility remaining when he came to NU despite having only played three seasons at Princeton.
Was it up to each conference to approve the extra year? I just assumed the NCAA granted it.
The NCAA granted the option but conferences still have the ability to enforce their own rules. Ivy rules don’t allow for grad students to play. They originally stuck to their guns 100% on that but then softened it a bit to allow an exception for then-current seniors to have one more year as a grad student. It didn’t extend to anyone else, though. After that one year the Ivy went back to not allowing grad students to play so Langborg had to transfer out of conference to play his last season.
That's some pretty significant inequity there, relative to Langborg's peers at least. What the heck should Ivy League have to say about someone who transferred out with their degree in hand but only 3 years played, when everyone else in that era is getting 5 years?
Not sure what point you are trying to make. This policy only applies to players who stay in the Ivy League. A player who graduated from an Ivy in 3 years who then transferred anywhere else could still get 2 additional years of eligibility if they were a first year in 2020-21.
I mean, he could. But he'd have to wear a mask.
The Ivy counted 20-21 as a year played even though the league literally took the year off. He doesn't get the benefit of the extra Covid year because he was in the Ivy when it happened, which is why he only actually got to play 4 seasons and not 5 like Boo.
This has been challenged and for some reason it’s been determined that they can’t have an extra year despite the Ivy not playing.
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that if Ryan had wanted to challenge this he would’ve looked into it before April 16th.
I think Cappy explained Langborg's situation concisely and clearly.
To quote him...
"He played 4 full seasons, but not the 2020-21 season that basically didn't count, so he's out of eligibility."
I will use more words. The NCAA decided that the basketball season that started in late 2020 and ended in early 2021 was a "non-season" and would not count (for anyone) against the 4 years of eligibility that everybody gets.
In other words, the 2020-21 season was thrown out. If you played in any other season, that season counted.
To quote him...
"He played 4 full seasons, but not the 2020-21 season that basically didn't count, so he's out of eligibility."
I will use more words. The NCAA decided that the basketball season that started in late 2020 and ended in early 2021 was a "non-season" and would not count (for anyone) against the 4 years of eligibility that everybody gets.
In other words, the 2020-21 season was thrown out. If you played in any other season, that season counted.
Considering the bad ankle that might need surgery and everything else he might have just decided not to challenge it and move on with his life
Fantastic addition, though, wasn't he?
There is a (small) chance Ryan gets another year to play. The lawsuit filed by the two St. Johns kids (formerly of the Ivy League) should have an answer in the next 10 days. If they win the suit, Ryan has a real shot. The argument here is that guys like Boo got to play 5 seasons in 5 years (because P5 conferences played through Covid but it didn't count against their eligibility), where as Ivy leaguers only were allowed to play 4 in those 5 years (due to their Covid season being canceled).
If those bozos win that lawsuit, you might as well get rid of the courts entirely.
The NCAA gave the leagues the decision-making power for that season.
It was not counted as a year of eligibility for anyone.
The players should be suing the Ivy League for trying to prevent them from getting sick.
If I'm the judge, it goes like this... "You signed on for 4 years. You played 4 years. Now get on with your life."
As I mentioned, the Ivy League players grievance is with the Ivy League for canceling their games.
The NCAA said the Covid season wouldn't be counted against the 4 years of eligibility.
They didn't discriminate whatsoever.
So let the Ivy League limit players to 4 years. Langborg isn’t in the Ivy League anymore. He’s in the B1G and the NCAA and B1G will allow for the free COVID year. Don’t see why the Ivy League gets to dictate anything here.
I think people are still getting hung up on what the NCAA did. It didn’t grant an extra year of eligibility to use any time, it just said that the specific 2020-21 season didn’t count against eligibility. So if you played in 20-21 you get to play 5 years, but if you didn’t play in 2020-21 then you don’t get to use an extra year in a future season.
PWB is right that any grievance should be against the Ivy League for not providing them the opportunity to compete that year.
Exactly. The NCAA did not grant everyone a new year of eligibility. It just said that the Covid season does not count towards the 4-year eligibility.
I can’t see the court giving Ivy League players an extra year. I can see in the future players winning a case to throw out the 4-year restriction based on the fact that it limits their opportunity to earn money while still enrolled in a university. Then we can see 30 year olds with 4-5 masters playing.
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That case was so obviously pathetic... at least we know there is a limit to the insanity.
Okay we don't know that, but we can always take some solace in one logical court decision.
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