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Leach Flagrant II: The number of ways we get jobbed is mind-blowing

wildcatcoaster

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Cheap calls, bad calls, calls I don't understand (Penn State). Game changers. Momentum killers. It just happens again and again and again.

There is no way Goldin gets ejected if that happens the other way around.

Unreal.
 
Cheap calls, bad calls, calls I don't understand (Penn State). Game changers. Momentum killers. It just happens again and again and again.

There is no way Goldin gets ejected if that happens the other way around.

Unreal.
The Flagrant 2 call was unbelievable. Leach got absolutely jobbed. Thankfully CCC didn’t get T’d up thereafter to add insult to injury
 
It feels like the same logic I could be sued for battery if I bumped into someone on the street and the bump hit his groin.

Especially bizarre when the other guy is so much taller, increasing the chances of nut area being hit.
 
It feels like the same logic I could be sued for battery if I bumped into someone on the street and the bump hit his groin.

Especially bizarre when the other guy is so much taller, increasing the chances of nut area being hit.
Dayton- no barnhizer
Butler- no call on three and one
Iowa- ridiculous buzzer beater
Penn State- ref goaltend debacle
Michigan- leach 🥜 ejection
What else is gonna happen on road games this year?
 
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It feels like the same logic I could be sued for battery if I bumped into someone on the street and the bump hit his groin.

Especially bizarre when the other guy is so much taller, increasing the chances of nut area being hit.
And when that guy initiated the contact that threw Leach off balance due to being 7 feet tall and 250 pounds.
 
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It feels like the same logic I could be sued for battery if I bumped into someone on the street and the bump hit his groin.

Especially bizarre when the other guy is so much taller, increasing the chances of nut area being hit.
It was basically a basketball play. Inadvertent at best. Even if you want to call something on that Flagrant 1 just because something happened is all that is there. Using it to eject the guy was just wrong,
 
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I hope Collins sends a message to the commissioner that refereeing has directly caused us to lose games. Not the players the refs. What a shame
 
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I hope Collins sends a message to the commissioner that refereeing has directly caused us to lose games. Not the players the refs. What a shame
He has a mimeogragh machine and he just has to keep running off copies of his complaints and filling in the reason because they are all unique
 
Btw on the late inbounds in the corner, the Michigan player got stuck in the corner and took six steps. No travel called. I cannot stand the big ten officiating.
Even the terrible announcers caught the travels and laughed it off. Pathetic!
 
The Leach flagrant should’ve been called an illegal screen on Goldin! And yes, big-time traveling on Michigan’s last inbounds play. Didn’t help that we shot FTs so poorly down the stretch, or that Berry and Martinelli stopped scoring as soon as Leach was tossed.
 
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They called the timeout pretty early in that possession. It's POSSIBLE that as soon as it went in the corner (before the multiple steps), the whistle blew.

A lot of other things were questionable that I'm more annoyed by than this one.
 
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According to Andy Katz, the Big 10 rule book says contact with the groin warrants an ejection only if intentional. But the Big 10 head ref defended the call by saying the contact itself is an automatic ejection and intent is meaningless. So if that’s all true, then the refs objectively made the wrong call in interpreting and enforcing the rule book. And that objectively wrong call had an objectively major consequence in removing our starting PG (who was playing really well) from the game with 10 minutes left.
 
One thing that gets me is that Goldin tried to play the refs at the end of the first half when Fitzmorris hit him across the shoulders. Goldin immediately put his hands to his face, trying to make it look like a flagrant foul, pretending to have been hit there, though the replay clearly showed the contact was lower.

On the contact to the groin, he seemed to me to go into a full Pacino relative to the degree of impact. He sold it completely. You would think, after the bad acting earlier, that the refs would have questioned the effect of the contact. I was watching without sound: when the ejection foul stopped play, I was sure it was for the moving screen. When the banner flashed replay, I thought it was Goldin under scrutiny. Oh, well.
 
Dayton- no barnhizer
Butler- no call on three and one
Iowa- ridiculous buzzer beater
Penn State- ref goaltend debacle
Michigan- leach 🥜 ejection
What else is gonna happen on road games this year?
Isn't this the second time we have had this called against us? At Rutgers last year wasn't it called against Lonborg? It cost us that road game as well. It would be interesting to find out how many times that has been called in BIG in the last couple years.
 
According to Andy Katz, the Big 10 rule book says contact with the groin warrants an ejection only if intentional. But the Big 10 head ref defended the call by saying the contact itself is an automatic ejection and intent is meaningless. So if that’s all true, then the refs objectively made the wrong call in interpreting and enforcing the rule book. And that objectively wrong call had an objectively major consequence in removing our starting PG (who was playing really well) from the game with 10 minutes left.
That is my beef. The explanation plainly was contradicted by the language of the rule. The official obviously did not understand the rule. That is a problem.
 
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