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Learning a little more after UIC

Here’s my take for the 5 after a couple games:

First off, Matt Nicholson… Hands down the best option NU has. And honestly, I don’t think it’s close. The guy’s been the defensive anchor for NU the past couple of seasons, and that hasn’t changed. It’s not just about his size and strength but, the way he moves for a guy his size is impressive. His athleticism and court awareness set him apart as an interior defender. The progression in his positioning, especially from when he first stepped on the court, has been incredible. He’s a perfect example of what hard work and great coaching can do. His basketball IQ on both sides of the ball is through the roof.

Now, offensively, he’s limited. We all know that. His lack of touch around the rim really holds him back. I hear people asking for a post move from him, but realistically, he doesn’t have that natural scoring touch you’d want from a center at this level. Which limits his ability to develop that type of game. That said, he’s still a lob threat, especially when rolling to the basket. He does a great job sealing off defenders, and that’s where he can really make an impact in the pick n roll game. Bottom line, Nicholson is a great defender and offensively, he’s not going to make a huge impact. He’s developed a lot, but let’s be real about where he is: a solid-very good, defensive-first center who’s not going to change games with his scoring. Still, major props to him for how far he’s come.

Now let’s talk about Hunger… This kid’s got some potential. He’s the second best option NU has at the five, and I like what I see from him on offense. He’s got touch around the basket, a smooth outside shot that, when it’s falling, can stretch defenses. That being said it doesn’t fall consistently. The confidence in his offensive game has grown this season, and I think we’ll see that continue to improve. He’s shown flashes of driving the ball, and I think he could be more aggressive there. I want to see him put the ball on the floor a little more and make those plays.

Defensively, though, he’s still got work to do. He’s not at the level Nicholson is yet, and he’s not quite playing within the flow of the offense sometimes, which could limit his minutes as the season goes on. But, we’ve seen guys improve under this staff Martinelli’s a great example of that. He made a massive jump defensively last year, and even bigger one this year. Nicholson did the same thing in his career. So there’s definitely hope for Hunger. If he gets more consistent with his offense and puts in the work defensively, he could be a real mismatch for opposing centers with his ability to stretch the floor and drive. It’s all about consistency and development.

As for Fitzsimmons… Honestly, we haven’t seen much of him. He’s kind of a depth guy right now, a big body to fill a practice spot, and bring some energy off the bench. The upside of the other two guys is just higher, and I don’t want to see Fitz getting a ton of minutes unless we’re in a pinch. He’s a good guy to have in practice, but NU needs the guys who can contribute at a higher level.

So, in summary, Nicholson’s your guy for defense, Hunger’s got more offensive upside but needs work, and Fitz is there for depth. IMO there’s some solid options, but there’s still room for growth across the board. Just keep developing, keep grinding.
 
Great post, Kid. Always love reading your hoops commentary.

I would not completely write off Fitz. He has some rare physical skills. He just needs to learn to play at this level. I would like to see him get a few minutes per game early on to get some development. I doubt Collins is ready to trust him much, but I think he could become useful on the court during his year here.
 
Here’s my take for the 5 after a couple games:

First off, Matt Nicholson… Hands down the best option NU has. And honestly, I don’t think it’s close. The guy’s been the defensive anchor for NU the past couple of seasons, and that hasn’t changed. It’s not just about his size and strength but, the way he moves for a guy his size is impressive. His athleticism and court awareness set him apart as an interior defender. The progression in his positioning, especially from when he first stepped on the court, has been incredible. He’s a perfect example of what hard work and great coaching can do. His basketball IQ on both sides of the ball is through the roof.

Now, offensively, he’s limited. We all know that. His lack of touch around the rim really holds him back. I hear people asking for a post move from him, but realistically, he doesn’t have that natural scoring touch you’d want from a center at this level. Which limits his ability to develop that type of game. That said, he’s still a lob threat, especially when rolling to the basket. He does a great job sealing off defenders, and that’s where he can really make an impact in the pick n roll game. Bottom line, Nicholson is a great defender and offensively, he’s not going to make a huge impact. He’s developed a lot, but let’s be real about where he is: a solid-very good, defensive-first center who’s not going to change games with his scoring. Still, major props to him for how far he’s come.

Now let’s talk about Hunger… This kid’s got some potential. He’s the second best option NU has at the five, and I like what I see from him on offense. He’s got touch around the basket, a smooth outside shot that, when it’s falling, can stretch defenses. That being said it doesn’t fall consistently. The confidence in his offensive game has grown this season, and I think we’ll see that continue to improve. He’s shown flashes of driving the ball, and I think he could be more aggressive there. I want to see him put the ball on the floor a little more and make those plays.

Defensively, though, he’s still got work to do. He’s not at the level Nicholson is yet, and he’s not quite playing within the flow of the offense sometimes, which could limit his minutes as the season goes on. But, we’ve seen guys improve under this staff Martinelli’s a great example of that. He made a massive jump defensively last year, and even bigger one this year. Nicholson did the same thing in his career. So there’s definitely hope for Hunger. If he gets more consistent with his offense and puts in the work defensively, he could be a real mismatch for opposing centers with his ability to stretch the floor and drive. It’s all about consistency and development.

As for Fitzsimmons… Honestly, we haven’t seen much of him. He’s kind of a depth guy right now, a big body to fill a practice spot, and bring some energy off the bench. The upside of the other two guys is just higher, and I don’t want to see Fitz getting a ton of minutes unless we’re in a pinch. He’s a good guy to have in practice, but NU needs the guys who can contribute at a higher level.

So, in summary, Nicholson’s your guy for defense, Hunger’s got more offensive upside but needs work, and Fitz is there for depth. IMO there’s some solid options, but there’s still room for growth across the board. Just keep developing, keep grinding.
I am aligned with this take. I'm sure this is common hoops wisdom, but for some reason it resonates with me as something that Tom Izzo said which is that bigs usually take longer to develop. Nicholson definitely embodies that. Let's be real, if the dude really shown post offense ability back in high school, he would've been offered by better programs than ours. However, despite his limited offensive ceiling, he's maxxed out on his defense and his attitude, and is a plus for this team.

Quite candidly, I'd rather see a small ball lineup with Martinelli at the 5 before seeing Fitz. I'm a bit concerned about his mobility against better athletic talent in the B1G. However, he's mainly here as depth, and also seems to bring not just experience but personality to the team. (The latter is based on some of the NU Hoops IG reels when they do quick interviews like "What is the worst halloween candy?")
 
I watched the post-game press where Martinelli and Nicholson were sitting there. My completely unprofessional body language opinion is that Nicholson is a smiler who tries really hard not to smile while in a basketball setting. Watching him try to hold back smiles was hilarious. Not a good poker face, but I love it, because he has a very intimidating persona on the court, and he wouldn't want to shatter the illusion. Maybe it's just my imagination, but I bet he's a real jokester with his friends (he's clearly fond of Martinelli) but wants the world to think he's stoic and "mean."
 
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With the game back on a normal channel last night, I got a chance to see our Cats and now offer these thoughts

1. Nick Martinelli has become a complete basketball player. Another big scoring night from Nick, except now he's doing it from all three levels. Yes, he still has the goofy flip shot near the rim working, but now he can hit the three and even now has the pull up mid-range shot. On top of that, he still rebounds, but he's added passing and ballhandling. That cross court pass from under the hoop out to Berry for the open 3 was probably his prettiest play of the night. He is also bringing the ball up the court to help break the press (though he makes me a little nervous when he is forced to dribble up with his right hand... fortunately no future opponents will realize he's left handed).

2. There was discussion by the broadcast team last night whether Nick will be able to keep this up when Brooks returns or will there be confusion about roles on this team. I believe they will become a two-headed monster. I compare it to Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown for my Boston Celtics. They will just take turns being great. It sounds like we may begin to find out Friday night as the broadcast kept speculating Brooks will be back for the next game.

3. I have it on good authority (ok... out of my butt) that Jaylen Leach's girlfriend texted him at half time that if he didn't pull himself together and start playing better, she was leaving him. Boy, did that work. He was a different player in the second half. He played with more confidence that also translated into hitting his shots. The pull up mid range shots were particularly exciting as that shot should always be there for him. Teams will respect his ability to hit the three pointer, which means they will close out on him hard, giving him the opening to drive to the basket. If help defenders stay back to protect against the lob to Big Matt, then that elbow jumper will be open.

4. Speaking of Big Matt, I don't know how many times now he's opened up the game with a lob dunk and I say to myself... that will be there all night. Maybe this is the game where Matt has a big scoring night. And then it doesn't happen. I don't know if teams adjust and he has no second act, or what. That said, he does what he does, which is to be a big body in the middle that clogs the lane on defense and makes the opposing defenders have to respect the lob threat, which circles you back to point #3 above.

5. Justin Mullins showed some sparks last night. He took it to the basket aggressively a couple times leading to 5 points. But it was the other areas where he stuffed the stat sheet. 7 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals. Not bad for coming off the bench. As he gains confidence, his ability to contribute should grow.

6. Tough night for the frosh. This was a bit of step back for them. KJ missed all of his shots and just looked like he was rushing things. He did finish with 5 assists and 2 steals, so it wasn't all bad, but he just didn't look as comfortable last night. Poor Jello had an even rougher night. He just couldn't seem to stay on the floor as he kept making mistakes, mostly on defense. There was one sequence where he checked in at a time out, promptly grabbed the UIC player on the inbounds play to draw the foul, and promptly got yanked back out for a Chris Collins' tongue lashing. Those are the growing pains of being a freshman. He'll keep improving.

7. The defense continues to impress. They held a UIC team who had scored 91 in each of their first two games to 74 points and forced 20 turnovers. Again, I am so impressed with the way our guys move and communicate on defense. The hedging, the switching, the recovering... all signs of a very well coached team who believes in spending the effort to defend well. That will continue to keep us in games all year as we figure out who is going to score that night besides Nick.

8. I don't know whether to dwell more on the fact that we took 33 free throws last night or the fact that we missed 11. Equally, one could be upset that Nick missed 5 free throws... but I'm more impressed that he got to the line 10 times. That is star quality stuff (the 10 attempts.... not the 5 misses). Something tells me Nick stayed late last night shooting 500 extra free throws after the game.

Still too early to really know what this all means. How we will compete when BIG play rolls around is still a little unclear to me. Will our guys continue to lean into the moment as the lights get brighter? I sure hope so. I think the signs are there of a good team, but they have to keep improving.
I have noticed on tv and heard around here that BB and Mart are close. I think that will be important as it should quell any me me me issue. I want to believe those two will be special on the court together and draw MN and Berry into their game.

Mart has developed that three I hoped for. He’s dangerous and lefty. BB is already a threat all over the place. Those two will cause some problems for Ds. Whether a kick out to berry or short lob from the post to MN. I have great hopes for this team.
 
I’m not sold on Leach as the primary ball handler. It looked to me like he struggled bringing it up against actual pressure, and almost lost it a few times running the point. I think Windham will become that guy in a few months. I expect when the competition gets tougher, we’ll see more matchups deciding who brings the ball up.

I thought the team did well getting the ball in against the press. It was the second or third pass that was poorly executed for a turnover. Hopefully that gets fixed.

One of the things we may really miss about Boo is his free throws, especially closing out games. Nick has been struggling so far. His jump shot free throw form seems to be mechanically riskier than a traditional form. The big FT disparity was really about the last two minutes of UIC attempting a come back. We’re lucky they shot poorly from the line as well.

Nick and Brooks in tandem, with Matt clogging things up, should really open up outside our shooters. I just want Brooks’return to wait until he’s 150% because he’ll go as hard as he can when he hits the court.
BB and Mart will change bringing the ball up. They will each draw forwards or be taller than double teaming guards. Mart on the inbound w G plus BB backcourt. Berry and MN in front court. You have two ball handling, pass savy 6-6/7 guys and a ball handler. Either big guy can get over the and send the ball to the front court. The bulls ran it for the first three.
 
We are clearly better when Matt is on the floor. When Barnhizer comes back, we should have enough scoring on the floor to offset Matt’s offensive limitations. I am hoping Leach or KJ can develop some chemistry with Matt on the pick and roll. Otherwise, I don’t think we need to make an effort to get him more involved. Good defensive teams generally don’t give up multiple alley oop dunks so it’s hard to try to force that. He is who he is at this point. Run the floor, set great screens and get more offensive rebounds is what I would like to see from him going forward.
I look at a starting five of Leach, Berry, BB, mart and MN. MN causing disruption for BB and leach while Mart hangs around the paint and Berry floats - enticing his man to vacate to help.

Leach and Berry probe until they get a shot or dump to mart. If doubles come from the paint, MN brings the pain. if Berry loses his guy, …. And leach, BB and Mart can all hit the open shot inside or out of the 3.

You get some variations with subs, but just four of those guys at a time cause heartache for a five man defense. As long as the buy into and play the team game - which I think starts w the BB / Mart relationship - the team has potential.
 
BB and Mart will change bringing the ball up. They will each draw forwards or be taller than double teaming guards. Mart on the inbound w G plus BB backcourt. Berry and MN in front court. You have two ball handling, pass savy 6-6/7 guys and a ball handler. Either big guy can get over the and send the ball to the front court. The bulls ran it for the first three.
I'm really concerned that Brooks will be limited by this nagging injury all year. We are all so confident that he is going come in and the team, which has looked pretty good with out him, will be a giant killer. It's going to take him at least three games to knock the rust off and that is if he isn't fighting a low grade injury all season.
 
I'm really concerned that Brooks will be limited by this nagging injury all year. We are all so confident that he is going come in and the team, which has looked pretty good with out him, will be a giant killer. It's going to take him at least three games to knock the rust off and that is if he isn't fighting a low grade injury all season.
I am concerned too, but I hope those three games are starting tonight. NU has three games which - on paper at least - should be easy wins. I know you never count any chickens when it comes to this team, but there's no time like now to get him ready. We already know he's practicing with the team - he can use the next three games to get used to game speed and then be ready for the Thanksgiving tourney and the two Big Ten games in early December.

The trick though, is can he play tonight? If he's still not back, that's when I start to really wonder about the lingering.
 
The only good thing I can think of with Barnhizer's injury is that he already has played a lot with Nicholson, Martinelli, Berry and Hunger, so getting back in synch should not be that difficult.

I think I'd sit him for a couple more games. If he wasn't ready for Dayton 6 days ago (an important game) there's no great reason to risk re-injury against teams we should beat pretty easily without him.

Get him back in there against Pepperdine on the 22nd to prep for the game against Butler on the 28th.

I'm sure I'm scarred by what transpired with my "other" team - Saint Louis U... Their best player, Robbie Avila, the incoming transfer from Indiana State, messed up his ankle before the season, came back for the opener in an important game against Santa Clara and re-injured the ankle with 4 minutes to go. He's now out another month and SLU's season is in jeopardy.
 
Would be nice to know what exactly barnheizers injury is. I don’t expect to see him tonight against eastern.
 
I think I'd sit him for a couple more games. If he wasn't ready for Dayton 6 days ago (an important game) there's no great reason to risk re-injury against teams we should beat pretty easily without him.
What if he was ready to play for Dayton and they just decided to be extra careful? Or if he was ready to play against Lehigh?

I'm not saying you are wrong. But at some point we just have to trust they have done what can be done. If it was later in the season there's a good chance he would already be playing. Langborg last year felt like he came back with some risk.
 
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What if he was ready to play for Dayton and they just decided to be extra careful? Or if he was ready to play against Lehigh?

I'm not saying you are wrong. But at some point we just have to trust they have done what can be done. If it was later in the season there's a good chance he would already be playing. Langborg last year felt like he came back with some risk.

Lets say we fall behind against (gasp) Eastern Illinois... Collins could do something dramatic like whip down his whiteboard, yell "This is not going to cut it, Robbie!" and walk down to Barnhizer, sitting in his warmups, tap him on the chest and yell "NORTHWESTERN NEEDS YOU! LETS GO!" The crowd goes insane.

Or he could just start him, to polite applause from a late-arriving crowd.
 
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