Minny prediction thread
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Just like 2007 we go into overtime but instead of the Cats having close to 50 points I say it is 30 to 30 in regulation and Wildcats win it after the Gophers add 3 and then the Cats make a touchdown for a final score of 36 to 33.
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You only get 1/2 credit for that big lake, because you share it with Canada, eh?
In the only number that truly matters....The Cat's cover -4. Sorry guys Minnesota has shown me no reason to think they are a good team. They beat Kent State 10 to 7 at home and barely got by Ohio for cryin' out loud. Now they are banged up even worse. We win this game by at least 7.
- Kent St was a terrible game but at least our D pitched a shutout
- Ohio is better than Ball State and you struggled against them
- We played TCU close and held them to a TO aided 23 pts while they're averaging 60 pts in their other 3 games
- Co St isn't great but we beat them on the road as well
NW has the better resume but that doesn't mean its the better team. Winning at Duke was a great win and we have nothing like that on our resume. One could argue there wasn't a big difference if any between how well NW played in beating Stanford and how well MN played in losing to TCU
There is that detail of how we scored more points than the other team, while Minnesota didn't.
If you put no credenence in anything other than the final score when evaluating teams you must think Bama is about the 40th best team in the country. I thought you guys were supposed to be smart?
NW has considerably more style points than Minnesota but not much more substance. We will find out CSU and Ohio are pretty decent. Kent State was a Mulligan. They crossed midfield one time.
I am very worried about the game with Minny. But if we are just talking about analyzing a team based on the games played to date...
Both teams have played four games. NU has played well in three and poorly in one. Minnesota has played well in one (the lone loss), okay in one, and poorly in two.
To try and figure out what is the statistical outlier, it would be more legitimate to say that NU's one bad game was more the anomaly while UMinn's one good game was the anomaly.
This is just a debate-type post. I believe that Minny is a good team and to me it is a toss-up.
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That's fair. I'd say we've played great defense in 3 and good D in 1. We've played 1 good offensive game, 1 eye meltingly bad one and 2 bad ones, lol.
Cats 20
Gophers 12
Minn racks up more yards and TOP, but a couple long TDs passes make the difference for the Cats
Gophers 12
Minn racks up more yards and TOP, but a couple long TDs passes make the difference for the Cats
Great approach! I feel much better now about our loss to you last year, since we had more rushing yards and nearly twice as many passing yards as you. We were really the better team, regardless of the final score!
No, I think Stanford put up 41 points on #6 USC on the road and 42 points against Oregon State on the road. They scored 6 on us on the road.
I think Duke put up 34 points at home against #22 GT. They scored 10 on us at home.
I think for all the (deserved) credit that Minnesota's defense has, we're still 30 slots above you in scoring defense, nationally.
I think Minnesota needed an absolutely bogus delay of game call to escape a FG try that Ohio on which could have won. I think Minnesota beat a Kent State team that Illinois trounced on the strength of an interception return for a TD. Our Ball State line was slimmer than we wanted, but we were never in a position to lose that game in the second half. Ever. The first half was ugly, but it really wasn't that close after we snapped into gear in the 3rd quarter.
I think the nature of the game is scoring more points than the other team. We have done a better job at that against better opponents across the board than Minnesota has played.
And I think I wouldn't be surprised at all if Minnesota won tomorrow, because that's college football and because Jerry Kill is a really, really good coach. But it doesn't mean that the way we played against Stanford is similar to the way Minnesota played against TCU. There are very few iterations in which a team that scores 6 points can win a football game. There are plenty in which a team that scores 23 can, and did.
Ohio's 50+ yarder would have tied the game if it was good, not for the win. That kicker wasn't making that kick regardless.
How can you say you were never in a position to lose against BSU, weren't you behind in the 3rd quarter? Funny things happen in games, a less than 7 point margin of victory means you can lose. We could have lost to Kent St on a fluke play even though they only crossed mid field once on a penalty.
NW is a good team as always, and this game seems to be a coin flip regardless of which team has the momentum. Talent is even, coaching is even. Home field seems to be meaningless. I expect Saturday to be no different. I agree that your team has been more impressive though.
Sorry, tied and it's a coin flip. Still, the point remains. We trailed at the half by 3, scored 17 points in the 3rd quarter and only gave the ball up with less than a TD lead with 30 seconds to go and the ball deep in BSU territory, with BSU out of timeouts. They never had a scoring chance to tie, like Ohio did, or to take the lead.
And the original contention that I take issue with is that NU's win against Stanford and Minny's loss against TCU are similar. They're not. I don't doubt that Minnesota has a pretty quality team.
- Ohio kicker missed that kick. He also missed a 30 yarder earlier but got a mulligan due to a false start that I still haven't seen on the replay and his long was something like 35 yards.
- Ohio benefited from a ridiculous fumble on a punt return otherwise it likely wouldn't have been that close.
Either way we should've played better.
But your contention is somewhat silly. General consensus is that TCU is a better team than Stanford, and definitely has a better offense. Now holding Stanford to 6 may be more impressive than holding TCU to 23, to say they're completely dissimilar and blow it off is silly as well.
- Stanford averaged 13.4 points in losses last year with the high being 17. Their high totals last year was 45 against UC Davis, 38 v Army and 35 v Cal. This is a team known for putting up offensive clunkers
- TCU avg 51 ppg last year, more than 6 points more than Stanfords high against a P5 team and 21 more than Stanford. Their low totals were 30 v MN, 31 v WV and 34 v KU.
You're telling me holding a team to 7 pts below their previous year low and 28 below their previous year average is less impressive than holding a team 4 pts below their 2014 low and 24 below their previous year average? Not to mention that 6 was 32 below their previous year high while 23 was 59 pts below TCU's previous high.
Even this year in other games TCU is averaging 21 more pts per game.
So yea I just wasted 5 mns of my time with this stuff that doesn't really matter because its a welcome break from real work. Point is, though that I thought NW's win against Stanford was impressive but I don't think that necessarily means you played better than MN did against TCU. Switch opponents and the results could be the same. Of course this is all hypothetical and doesn't matter in the least
If one of our Minnesota University visitors refers to NU as "N(orth)W(estern)" again I'm going to explode. Or something. Or maybe I'll just go back to reading The Faerie Queen because I'm smart and I like iambic pentameter.
Rather than that, we could just refer to them as MS ["M(inne)S(ota)"].
That's not how the B1G does it.
IU is Indiana University and UI of University if Illinois.
NEB fans can call themselves whatever, but the longtime B1G schools do it the right way (and not some weird-arse B12 way).
That is not how ANYBODY does it. University of Alabama = UA and Auburn University = AU. I don't know of another example of acronym dyslexia other than Nebraska.
It's actually an old Big 8 thing. OU - University of Oklahoma. KU - University of Kansas. CU - University of Colorado. Doesn't make it right, though, and Nebraska needs to change to reflect the new reality.
Weird. A dyslexic conference. Oddly, it annoys me less now that I understand that it came from somewhere and is not just a random thing.It's actually an old Big 8 thing. OU - University of Oklahoma. KU - University of Kansas. CU - University of Colorado. Doesn't make it right, though, and Nebraska needs to change to reflect the new reality.
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