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How is that off topic? It might be the most popular topic on this board. 🤷♂️Lighting it up in Syracuse game.
He also dropped the ball at the buzzer so couldn’t get the final shot off.Kopp finished with 28. He was really good tonight.
They lost.Kopp finished with 28. He was really good tonight.
Humbly, that's just a really dumb take that I know you can't mean. Neither Boo nor Kopp "lost the game" on that one play. I know this is obvious, but the games are lost in hundreds of small plays by players all across the roster throughout the game. Both those guys are part of that, but neither team is in position to even attempt to win without them.Kopp did almost the identical thing that Boo did as the clock ran out. Dropped the inbounds pass that lost the game.
I don’t mean they lost the game, but they had the chance with the ball in their hand and turned the ball over.Humbly, that's just a really dumb take that I know you can't mean. Neither Boo nor Kopp "lost the game" on that one play. I know this is obvious, but the games are lost in hundreds of small plays by players all across the roster throughout the game. Both those guys are part of that, but neither team is in position to even attempt to win without them.
He must still have some purple blood in him. Of course Pardon may have something to say about this.Kopp did almost the identical thing that Boo did as the clock ran out. Dropped the inbounds pass that lost the game.
According to coral "good riddance". Then again, this board throws all players under the bus as "issues" when they run far away from here.I started the thread because I was watching the Indiana game last night and saw how much he was playing and how quietly he was making a big contribution. I have never been a fan as I perceived he frequently played with an attitude while at NU. I rarely follow an individual player but paid attention and saw how smartly the coach used Kopp's talents in a secondary role. Not a knock on Collins. Indiana has the better talents that I think force Kopp to accept his role.
Well they won. Wonder if Miller is sulking...Completely different today. 0 points on 0-5 shooting with 4 to go against UNL
Woodson’s hand is definitely known to be steadier than Collins’….
More facts, I see…
So you are assuming that everything I post is meant to insult Chris Collins?Taken as one post in isolation, I can agree. Taken as another post among the (so) many you have posted that are critical of Collins (based on stats taken at absolute face value and assuming full credibility), I don’t think it’s a generic statement, and it certainly is not a wild conclusion on my part.
You are the first "actuary" I've ever heard of who disputes the clear value of "+/-" numbers.My point (again) is that you put too much faith in just the numbers. If I did that in my job (as an actuary), I’d be out on the street.
Bullshit. The discussion was about Kopp going 0-Fer but still winning. Then you interject a Coaching comment. Like you always do. Apparently, your dislike for CCC is so strong you don’t even realize you are doing it. At least man up and admit you don’t think CCC is a good Coach or basically don’t like anything at all that he does. Once you come clean, you won’t need to drag every thread down your path that leads to the exact end game. Absolutely ridiculous you don’t even understand what you do in almost every comment.Where did I say anything about either coach?
My statement is that sometimes players know they played poorly and are worried that they may lose playing time, even if their team won the game.
Ideally you don't want your players doing that - good coaches make it clear to their players that winning is more important than how each individual plays - that they have the player's back.
You read a generic statement and associated it negatively with Collins. Not my problem.
Dinsdale!In what world is presenting statistics that others don't have access to considered "passive aggressive?"
Regarding Collins, I have stated many times, with absolute clarity, that I think Chris Collins is a subpar strategist and "in-game" coach. I don't think he is good at it. I don't think he is average at it. I think he is below average at best.
But you have lost all objectivity. I make a comment about Miller Kopp and a general comment about how a coach can help a guy who has had a bad game and you freak out, just like Gordie, thinking I am ripping Collins. This is more a reflection of your inner voices than anything I said.
It is bizarre, really really bizarre.
Dude, I blocked that guy ages ago. You should consider it.You seem to read generic statements and make wild assumptions, then comment on those wild assumptions.
I haven't blocked anyone.Dude, I blocked that guy ages ago. You should consider it.
Tamar Bates is going to be a stud. He's long and athletic yet highly skilled for a first year perimeter player. Has the highest ceiling on IU's team (even over TJD), IMO.syracuse played only zone. Since Kopp is mainly a spot up shooter that worked to his advantage. He struggles more on man to man.
Tamar Bates, who used to play with Ty Berry, had a nice game. Shame we didn't get him ...
Apples to oranges.My point (again) is that you put too much faith in just the numbers. If I did that in my job (as an actuary), I’d be out on the street.
The "numbers" you put out gives no indication of who they are playing and matching up against or other details. By themselves they can be interesting but not of much useSo you are assuming that everything I post is meant to insult Chris Collins?
Interesting! Ultra-defensive of a person you presumably don't know.
As for the statistics, I understand that you put more faith in biased human assessments than you do in the actual measurable results... baseball used to be that way too, until the guys with the numerical assessments just kept beating the tar out of the guys who relied on opinion and reputation.
Pretty much that is what you have shownSo you are assuming that everything I post is meant to insult Chris Collins?
Interesting! Ultra-defensive of a person you presumably don't know.
As for the statistics, I understand that you put more faith in biased human assessments than you do in the actual measurable results... baseball used to be that way too, until the guys with the numerical assessments just kept beating the tar out of the guys who relied on opinion and reputation.
Right - I can't go thru the entire NCAA's boxscores play-by-play and rate every player in college basketball. Thats what would be required. A phenomenal amount of work.The "numbers" you put out gives no indication of who they are playing and matching up against or other details. By themselves they can be interesting but not of much use
PWB keep up the good work. I don't always agree with your conclusions but your numbers give really good food for thought.Right - I can't go thru the entire NCAA's boxscores play-by-play and rate every player in college basketball. Thats what would be required. A phenomenal amount of work.
What the "+/-" captures is ALL of the intangibles, regardless of whether they can be easily identified.
Good players help their team score and help prevent the opponent from scoring.
You should compare the +/- to the alternatives
1. Everybody watching the game and expressing their opinion.
2. Looking at the box scores and trying to imagine who made us win or lose, based on a handful of measured categories.