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Good choice. All 3 Finalists were deserving.
Good choice. All
Good choice. All 3 Finalists were deserving.
It's amazing to think that OU had a back-up QB to a Heisman winner who would win a Heisman the following year. Might be the only time in history that the back-up was in fact better than the starter.
Have there ever been different back-to-back Heisman winners at the same school at the same position?
He’s already agreed to a nearly $5 million bonus with the Oakland A’s, which allowed him to play football this year and become a full-time professional baseball player in the spring.There's a good chance he won't play football next year, but baseball. Crazy talent.
You are out by a year. Manziel left Texas A&M following the 2013 season, in 2014 Kenny "Trill" Hill started for the Aggies. In 2015, freshman Murray was back up to Kyle Allen until late October. Both Allen and Murray left A&M that December. Murray was effectively traded to Oklahoma for Hotshot Trevor Knight.Murray replaced another Heisman winner his freshman year at Texas A&M.
It really was a shame he didnt play more than he did. Very fun player to watch.
He’s already agreed to a nearly $5 million bonus with the Oakland A’s, which allowed him to play football this year and become a full-time professional baseball player in the spring.
You could argue his financial upside is higher in football, but his chances of walking when he’s 40 are far higher with baseball.
Insanely talented. Better off in baseball. At 5’10” he’s really not suited for the League.There's a good chance he won't play football next year, but baseball. Crazy talent.
There’s no guarantee that he’ll ever make the $5M he’s already banked as an NFL player. (I’m assuming he’s not a first round pick due to his size.)Don't think that's necessarily true. If he makes it even to the end of his arbitration years, much less into free agency, the money in baseball gets huge. No salary cap and cash is guaranteed.
There’s no guarantee that he’ll ever make the $5M he’s already banked as an NFL player. (I’m assuming he’s not a first round pick due to his size.)
As a top ten pick - even one who’s not actually played much baseball since high school - he’s got a very good chance of making the bigs. And as a ninth overall pick , he’s got a very good chance of
NFL QB upside is huge. But MLB all star upside is huger. (Josh Donaldson just signed for $20 million, and he is totally not at all healthy. That’s basically Kirk Cousins money.)
NFL - with a terrible players union and no career longevity - is definitely a worse choice than MLB for someone with such an option.
Yeah, shame on a 14 year old kid for making dumb tweets......Now the question is, are they going to let him keep it?
I'm not saying they should take it away. I'm just wondering if the Woke crowd is going to get their way or not.Yeah, shame on a 14 year old kid for making dumb tweets......
I would agree.Well, yeah, it all comes down to whether he can hack it at the top level of whichever sport. But if I had the choice, putting everything together, baseball is the easy decision from both a health and a financial standpoint. Murray says he wants to play both, so we'll see how that goes.
With him solidly projected as a first-round pick in a weak year for QBs, Kyler Murray has declared himself eligible for the NFL draft.
For comparison, Lamar Jackson got $9 million in guarantees as the last pick of the first round, including a $5 million bonus, which makes this likely to be a smarter short-term play.
If Murray becomes a star, he’s in line for huge money starting in ~2022. If not, he’ll still have banked ~$9+ million by then.
I know nothing about the draft, but I’m guessing #15 to Washington.
You can walk after a career in BB. Less likely after a career in FB. If he liked both, BB would be the better choiceThere’s no guarantee that he’ll ever make the $5M he’s already banked as an NFL player. (I’m assuming he’s not a first round pick due to his size.)
As a top ten pick - even one who’s not actually played much baseball since high school - he’s got a very good chance of making the bigs. And as a ninth overall pick , he’s got a very good chance of
NFL QB upside is huge. But MLB all star upside is huger. (Josh Donaldson just signed for $20 million, and he is totally not at all healthy. That’s basically Kirk Cousins money.)
NFL - with a terrible players union and no career longevity - is definitely a worse choice than MLB for someone with such an option.
I doubt you would ever have the choiceNothing but best wishes for Kyler Murray but, now that I’ve been around the block more than a few times, I would not trade a Northwestern (or comparable) education for a Heisman Trophy.
With him solidly projected as a first-round pick in a weak year for QBs, Kyler Murray has declared himself eligible for the NFL draft.
For comparison, Lamar Jackson got $9 million in guarantees as the last pick of the first round, including a $5 million bonus, which makes this likely to be a smarter short-term play.
If Murray becomes a star, he’s in line for huge money starting in ~2022. If not, he’ll still have banked ~$9+ million by then.
I know nothing about the draft, but I’m guessing #15 to Washington.
The only thing that will keep him out of the first round is his height, or lack thereof. At best he is 5'10" and that is a big (pun intended) issue in the NFL.Does sound like he wants to see if he ends up a first round pick but curious if all the distraction about him potentially bailing for baseball in a few years is going to have the unintended consequence of GMs skipping over him to actually keep him out of the first round?
Assuming he slips to a lower round can he just say ,”Thanks, but no thanks” and then go play baseball?
He must have a really good job, because that Heisman can pay residual income for a lifetime.I doubt you would ever have the choice
Easy choice Baseball.You can walk after a career in BB. Less likely after a career in FB. If he liked both, BB would be the better choice
He can give the NFL a shot, and if it doesn't work out still play baseball. Tebow-style.Easy choice Baseball.
That brings back memories of a friend of mine at the time, Rick Reichardt, who coincidentally played football with Matt Rice's dad at Wisconsin on their 1963 Rose Bowl team, and was THE first baseball "bonus baby" when he signed with the California Angels in 1964 for $200,000.He’s already agreed to a nearly $5 million bonus with the Oakland A’s, which allowed him to play football this year and become a full-time professional baseball player in the spring.
You could argue his financial upside is higher in football, but his chances of walking when he’s 40 are far higher with baseball.
Easy choice Baseball.
^ Wasn't comparing KM to Mahomes; just showing the kind of $$ that players (well, QBs) can make in the NFL.
RGIII's teammate, Lamar Jackson is the better comp to RGIII.
Murray is more like (style of play) Russell Wilson or his predecessor at OU, Mayfield.
Now, there is no guarantee that Murray will end up having a career like RW, but he projects more as a franchise QB than a multiple MLB All-star.
Mahomes is simply blazing the trail for other (franchise) QBs to follow.
QBs like Ryan ($30 mil/yr avg.), Cousins ($28 mil/yr), Garappolo ($27.5 mil/yr), Stafford ($27 mil), Carr ($25 mil/ yr) - all kept breaking records for QB pay, which was surpassed by Rodgers ($33.5 mil.yr).
As the NFL salary cap keeps going up, top franchise QBs (and even not so top - what have Cousins, Garaopplo, Stafford, Carr won?) are going to command a certain % of a team's cap.
RW will be due for a big pay raise in 2020 (only making about $22 mil/yr under his current contract).
No question he's in it for the money.No question that if he's in it for the money, he plays football.
If he could be an all star caliber player in MLB (not far fetched if he is the 10th pick in the entire draft) he would make more during his career in baseball. He probably be able to walk and think some at age 55 too.No question that if he's in it for the money, he plays football.
If he could be an all star caliber player in MLB (not far fetched if he is the 10th pick in the entire draft) he would make more during his career in baseball. He probably be able to walk and think some at age 55 too.
It’s a moot issue since he is going to the NFL. As I stated earlier, the fact that he is a QB is the thing that makes this debatable. QB’s get paid and Murray will likely get $15-20M fully guaranteed 4 year contract. That is if he goes mid first round. Move him into the top 5 and he’ll get $10M more. It will be the last fully guaranteed deal he’ll get.Uh no. As the 10th pick of the draft, his odds of being an all-star are far lower than him getting paid in the NFL.