Intense certainly, but something is amiss in Minnesota. Fleck is a terrible role model as a coach. So much anger is not good for the players, the fans or anybody. I live in Minnesota and am disgusted by his demeanor. Winning is not the only thing, if it takes this much psychopathy to do it. I'll take Northwestern's coaches any day over this insane perverted behavior, win or lose.
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Listen, I too hate PJ Fleck, but this is a totally wild take
Hey what happened to the guy who used to coach at Northwestern? The one before the current coach… Why did he leave? It wasn’t anything insane or perverted that happened on his watch, was it?
Then why do you hate him? There must be a reason. What I stated is the most plausible reason I can think of, that he is too toxic to be mentoring young men. Not anything close to the coaches I had when I was these player's age. What the hell has happened to us?
Yeah, times were such, and maybe now , but ihat doesn't need to be. Anger and hatred need not supplant decency. Cormac McCarthy describes a fascinating, insidious world, but do we really want that to be our reality?
It is? Be sweet when you are young, not when your are old--that's when you become a curmudgeon.
trust me, I'm there.
Problem for him is, as I see it, he won't make a good NFL coach because the pros won't tolerate his behavior towards them. Probably the best example is Nick Saban. He had to return to college where he could treat players like PJ does because they had no choice, but that has changed too. I suspect there will be some players going into the portal because they have that choice now. Where they get a degree from is irrelevant to many players these days. I like the NU philosophy. Very few players make it in the NFL.
I have the same question. What did I miss, what did he do? Did he say something post game or somethig? What am I missing here?
His team beat the number 11 team (per AP) the country all I can say is good for him unless something happened that I missed. Why the anger?
He’s an obnoxious and annoying flim flam man, more a bundle of catchphrases than a human or coach
He had a right to be angry, but not so flagrantly so. That's not a coach, that is a bully.
PJ went nuts at the end of the game when his team tried on qb sneaks on two downs to score a TD. On the first try, it was questionable whether they did not make it. He went nuts. On review, they ruled against him. On the 2nd try, he clearly made it, but they ruled that he was short. PJ went ballistic. He was right. Review changed the call to a TD, The refs were afraid to make a call. I do not like PJ, but on both calls, every coach would and should have gone nuts. He acted correctly.
The rules were ignored on that TD sneak.
Yes it was pretty obvious that the QB scored a touchdown, based on where his helmet went (into the endzone by a couple feet)
However, the refs ruled him short because they couldn't see thru the 22 players piled up near the ball.
"There must be indisputable video evidence for an on-field call to be changed by the Instant Replay Official."
Replay had no such evidence. No camera could see the ball relative to the goal line. The replay officials merely ASSUMED the ball had crossed the goalline and reversed the call.
Thats not what the rules say. Call should have stood.
Don’t really agree. They combined multiple camera angles. You couldn’t see the ball but you could see his arms and you could see where his waist and legs were. Given that his arms were still tight to him, it was impossible for the ball to be lower than in his gut, he was bent at a 90% angle, and his entire body to the waist and the front of his legs got in the end zone.
You might not think winning is the only thing but if Fleck doesn't win, he will be gone so to him it is much more so
If it was at NU, then they weren't winning. If the choice is between nice and losing or angry and winning, most would take the latter
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