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Portal and probably NIL. Permanent damage to college football

If you don't see the problem we are going to have in attracting the kind of players in the future that we been able to attract in the recent past, then you have your head buried in the sand. Or perhaps buried in a pile of NIL money.

And just in case you didn't notice our best defensive player just entered the transfer portal. What makes you think we are going to be able attract anymore like him in the future as NIL and direct salaries become a major factor in high school kids' decisions?
The guys we’ve been attracting will continue to seek out schools like NU. We’ll struggle to uptier recruiting but it won’t deteriorate. If you haven’t figured it out by now, the kids we attract Come here for the top tier education and won’t forgo the long term benefits of that degree for a few thousand dollars a year of NIL money from an inferior academic alternative.

Love your endless positive attitude and optimism by the way!
 
They can certainly get a good degree elsewhere. They are not proscribed from a major in engineering. If they want to go pre-med, they can. I'd take the million dollar NIL and still major in what I want.
You don’t think that NIL money will come with strings attached? Prioritizing football at the expense of a balanced focus on academic responsibilities will be even more prevelant at institutions that will try to use NIL as an advantage in recruiting. I have little doubt of that.
 
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The guys we’ve been attracting will continue to seek out schools like NU. We’ll struggle to uptier recruiting but it won’t deteriorate. If you haven’t figured it out by now, the kids we attract Come here for the top tier education and won’t forgo the long term benefits of that degree for a few thousand dollars a year of NIL money from an inferior academic alternative.

Love your endless positive attitude and optimism by the way!
What I don't understand is your positive attitude for NIL and how exactly it is going to work for the benefit of NU.

Maybe you can explain why it is going to be so great for us.
 
If the world economy takes a dump in the near future, people will have to make a readjusting of their priorities and you will see lower attendance across the board with regards to sports entertainment. CFB is corrupted as the $$$$$ is just too much to ignore as corporate America has cornered the market on every aspect of American life. CFB is just way too predictable and with that, any entertainment value is lessened. I am boycotting the title game for sure.
88 wrote: "...corporate America has cornered the market on every aspect of American life." This is boring if not stultifying. Every strip mall in America now has the same 25 shops and restaurants. There's a Walmart in every nook and cranny. Soon, every football team in the CFB will be basically the same team, just in different colors. The NFL may be about to pull a real coup on this one.
 
What I don't understand is your positive attitude for NIL and how exactly it is going to work for the benefit of NU.

Maybe you can explain why it is going to be so great for us.
Where did I say it would benefit NU? I think it will have a neutral effect on NU.
 
Don’t you think NU and a few select others will be able to continue positioning themselves as the anomaly, the P5 program where kids who still truly want to hedge their bets can still get an education. If the rest of the P5 football world truly moves even more towards a quasi professional/business type mode of operations, the opportunity for those athletes who also want to get some semblance of an education at those other institutions will be even more limited than it is now. As they benefit from NIL, the pressure and expectation for those kids to prioritize football at the expense of academics will be even more heightened than it is now. For most kids that will be just fine, but for the kids out there who are smart enough to realize that sports are finite and there are no guarantees, an institution like NU should be able to stand out and experience success by continuing to operate as it is.
Problem is that a vast majority of the big end 4 and 5 ⭐ recruits are from the hood or the Deep South and are focused on the $$$$$ via the NFL. The players that care about education or hedging their bets are the players already committing to NU and like programs. Problem is they can hedge their bets at a very good state university that has a great football program and get paid if the alumni boosters raise a ton of $$$$ for them. Fitz needs to adapt to the new realities of the CFB circa 2022. The allure of a degree is low on the top recruit agenda already, the NIL just makes it that much lower. Ryan and the alumni need to put their money where their mouth is if NU is going to compete with the big boys. An upgraded stadium isn't going to get the job done. The new practice facility hasn't helped recruiting thus far either. NU is going to have to get a bit dirty to fulfill any promises Fitz made after the 2018 Holiday Bowl. Thinking you are going to bring in top recruits based on academic reputation at this point is just unrealistic, as that is the status quo thinking at NU, which in terms of CFB, was rendered moot by the late 70's/ early 80's and was the norm starting in the late 90's.
 
Where did I say it would benefit NU? I think it will have a neutral effect on NU.
I don't see how it can possibly be neutral to us, since it is very likely we are going to lose key recruits to other schools because of it. Recruits who without NIL would choose NU.

It is a huge game changer and the high profile schools will cash in on it to the determent of all the rest.
 
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It’s a tough debate for me because I 100% stand behind players to opt-out of bowl games, transfer, get NIL money etc. It is completely their right and often in their best interests. But at the same time, it absolutely makes for a worse overall product as well. It’s hard to argue that it’s making college football as a whole more enjoyable to watch and consume.
 
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It’s a tough debate for me because I 100% stand behind players to opt-out of bowl games, transfer, get NIL money etc. It is completely their right and often in their best interests. But at the same time, it absolutely makes for a worse overall product as well. It’s hard to argue that it’s making college football as a whole more enjoyable to watch and consume.
One inevitable next step will be appearance fees for bowl games.

The Rose Bowl Game sponsored by (I forget) featuring NFL Prospect Chris Olave
 
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i get it but if that’s the mindset, I don’t get why the bowl game is any different than regular season games. If the view is that it is unreasonable for a player to put his NFL future on the line, why play any college games once your draft status as a player has been established? That could be after the 3rd game of the year, the 5th game of the year or heck for some elite players it could be before the season has even started. Are we headed for a scenario where elite 3rd year prospects with certain NFL first round pick grades just drop out of school after their sophomore year to workout and get ready for when they are eligible for the NFL Draft? That would be sad and if I were an NFL guy would me question that players competitiveness and live for the game.
 
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i get it but if that’s the mindset, I don’t get why the bowl game is any different than regular season games. If the view is that it is unreasonable for a player to put his NFL future on the line, why play any college games once your draft status as a player has been established. That could be after the 3rd game of the year, the 5th game of the year or heck it for some elite players it could be before the season has even started.
I can’t answer this because I haven’t been in this position. If I were to guess, I would suspect it is because 1) they can now clearly see the finish line and 2) they can potentially train for the combine which can improve their draft status more than 1 game out of 12 they play during the season.
 
i get it but if that’s the mindset, I don’t get why the bowl game is any different than regular season games. If the view is that it is unreasonable for a player to put his NFL future on the line, why play any college games once your draft status as a player has been established? That could be after the 3rd game of the year, the 5th game of the year or heck for some elite players it could be before the season has even started. Are we headed for a scenario where elite 3rd year prospects with certain NFL first round pick grades just drop out of school after their sophomore year to workout and get ready for when they are eligible for the NFL Draft? That would be sad and if I were an NFL guy would me question that players competitiveness and live for the game.
We saw that with Slater
 
What does that have anything to do with what we are talking about? NU is not that kind of program now nor do I foresee it becoming that kind of program anytime soon.
Which kind of program is that?
 
If you don't see the problem we are going to have in attracting the kind of players in the future that we been able to attract in the recent past, then you have your head buried in the sand. Or perhaps buried in a pile of NIL money.

And just in case you didn't notice our best defensive player just entered the transfer portal. What makes you think we are going to be able attract anymore like him in the future as NIL and direct salaries become a major factor in high school kids' decisions?
Attact him yes as I don't think he was as highly rated. Keeping him is another story
 
We saw that with Slater

Slater wanted to play and was set to play one last season with his teammates. He loves the game. The only reason he sat out is because of the Big Ten's initial uncertainty around playing at all.
 
Texas A&M set to sign one of the highest rated classes in history. Rumors of $20-$30 million paid out to the incoming class.

Totally expected.

NCAA facilities are absurd. Donors would much rather pay the players than build them a 10,000 square foot training room.

I imagine all these contracts also have performance clauses — if you’re not on the depth chart, we’re not paying you.

Aside: Are all schools offering four year scholarships? Are all B1G schools still? That could change soon.
 
Texas A&M set to sign one of the highest rated classes in history. Rumors of $20-$30 million paid out to the incoming class.

Paid out by who? This seems to be the bonanza that boosters from southern schools have been drooling over, forever. This could benefit NU (cynically), in that the academically qualified who are also great athletes, if they can get enough cash via NIL, are freed up to go wherever they want, so why not the best academic school (just in case the NFL doesn't work out)? Athletes should be compensated for their skill, and not be servants to universities who profit from their skill without compensation proportionally to their contribution. However, if NIL results in a coalescence of power at the top or a freebe benefit to the NFL, then this is a VERY bad idea.
 
Totally expected.

NCAA facilities are absurd. Donors would much rather pay the players than build them a 10,000 square foot training room.

I imagine all these contracts also have performance clauses — if you’re not on the depth chart, we’re not paying you.

Aside: Are all schools offering four year scholarships? Are all B1G schools still? That could change soon.
They aren’t allowed to have performance clauses
 
Texas A&M set to sign one of the highest rated classes in history. Rumors of $20-$30 million paid out to the incoming class.

For the next half decade or so, the winners won’t be determined by big schools, small schools, NU style schools, or non NU style schools. It will be determined by the organized, aggressive, and innovative schools. The schools whose donors embrace the new reality. I 100% guarantee some tiny schools will rise up to unexpected prominence out of this like SMU before them.

There’s no reason we can’t be one of them.

Also, this new system is an extremely tragic waste of the more sensible, balanced system of direct payments that Mark Emmert and everybody else with their heads in the sand blocked for years. If you were in any position to have move towards paying players for the last ten years and helped block it, this reality is on you.
 
For the next half decade or so, the winners won’t be determined by big schools, small schools, NU style schools, or non NU style schools. It will be determined by the organized, aggressive, and innovative schools. The schools whose donors embrace the new reality. I 100% guarantee some tiny schools will rise up to unexpected prominence out of this like SMU before them.

There’s no reason we can’t be one of them.

Also, this new system is an extremely tragic waste of the more sensible, balanced system of direct payments that Mark Emmert and everybody else with their heads in the sand blocked for years. If you were in any position to have move towards paying players for the last ten years and helped block it, this reality is on you.
Created this monster!
 
So, let's just quit pretending that this is college football anymore.

Let's call it what it really is.

A semi-pro league whose team organizers happen to be universities rather than some other entities.
 
So, let's just quit pretending that this is college football anymore.

Let's call it what it really is.

A semi-pro league whose team organizers happen to be universities rather than some other entities.
OSU, Clemson, and a few others should meld with the SEC, which will be known as the SPFL (a Subsidiary of the NFL) and everyone else can still be College Football. The SPFL will have it's own championship, and everyone else will have the the Real College Football Championship. Vanderbilt will join the B1G East, as the counterpart to NU in the West, and the Ivy League will become competitive at the national level, once again. Screw ND, they can just hang out there to drool about not being in the SPFL.
 
So, if that is true, then why bother even making enrollment in a school as a necessity to play on a team.

Why not just hire players as needed whether they are students or not?
That's interesting. "Openings for Athletic Faculty at Northwestern University. High School degree required ."
 
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