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From a Trib article:

Former Florida QB signee Jaden Rashada sues coach Billy Napier and others over failed $14 million NIL deal
 
EASports College Football ‘26 or ‘27 is going to be lit!

“Press ❌ to accept the proposed settlement. Press ⭕️ to proceed to trial.”

“Use the up and down arrows to choose a defense strategy. When ready, press ❌ to begin jury selection.”

Nonstop fun!
 
EASports College Football ‘26 or ‘27 is going to be lit!

“Press ❌ to accept the proposed settlement. Press ⭕️ to proceed to trial.”

“Use the up and down arrows to choose a defense strategy. When ready, press ❌ to begin jury selection.”

Nonstop fun!
Cattul,

You forgot the change of e-mail option: the kid in question made an oral commitment to U Miami, signed a letter of intent with U Florida, was released from that and played at ASU, now is at U Georgia.
 

I hope we never, ever find ourselves in this place. I'd honestly rather be 2-10 most years or drop to sub-P4 than become a program made up entirely of mercenaries kids playing for the highest bidder.
Fortunately, for smarter athletes, attending NU is a kind of NIL deal.
 
THis sounds an awful lot like a kid and dad who have no idea what they're talking about, screwed up the whole thing repeatedly, and don't have a great leg to stand on.
 
Fortunately, for smarter athletes, attending NU is a kind of NIL deal.
Yes, I am cautiously optimistic that a completely different kind of approach to recruiting at NU - where we value player development and continuity - will yield very good returns as it historically has over typical higher-profile "hat dance" kids who wind up bouncing around four times in four years to never find what they're looking for, while those programs experience high turnover and unmet potential.

Our stated NIL strategy - to retain rather than recruit - will also hopefully help protect us from poaching and kids looking for greener pastures after a good season.
 
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And, of course, Miami of Florida was originally involved with this guy. John Ruiz who probably bought the basketball player away from NU. This NIL thing is completely off the rails.
Probably will get worse before it gets better
 
Rashada is back in the portal after serving as Georgia’s third stringer this year.

He transferred when ASU brought in someone to compete with him (Sam Leavitt, MSU, same class) and now is transferring because he’s behind Stockton at Georgia.

It’s a shame that so many kids don’t want to compete for a role. He could’ve spent a year handing to Skattebo, getting better as the year went on, and playing in the CFP. (Leavitt was…fine this year. Rashada could’ve competed and won, unless he was ‘asked to leave’ for being me-first.)

Oh well.

He’s gotten lots of bad advice. I still hope he wins his lawsuit.
 
Rashada is back in the portal after serving as Georgia’s third stringer this year.

He transferred when ASU brought in someone to compete with him (Sam Leavitt, MSU, same class) and now is transferring because he’s behind Stockton at Georgia.

It’s a shame that so many kids don’t want to compete for a role. He could’ve spent a year handing to Skattebo, getting better as the year went on, and playing in the CFP. (Leavitt was…fine this year. Rashada could’ve competed and won, unless he was ‘asked to leave’ for being me-first.)

Oh well.

He’s gotten lots of bad advice. I still hope he wins his lawsuit.
Only one QB plays. That one guy gets all the snaps, fame, attention, glory, and fortune.

The other guy gets nothing.

The starting job is everything.
 
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Rashada is back in the portal after serving as Georgia’s third stringer this year.

He transferred when ASU brought in someone to compete with him (Sam Leavitt, MSU, same class) and now is transferring because he’s behind Stockton at Georgia.

It’s a shame that so many kids don’t want to compete for a role. He could’ve spent a year handing to Skattebo, getting better as the year went on, and playing in the CFP. (Leavitt was…fine this year. Rashada could’ve competed and won, unless he was ‘asked to leave’ for being me-first.)

Oh well.

He’s gotten lots of bad advice. I still hope he wins his lawsuit.

Leavett was fantastic - at least every time I saw him play.
 
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Only one QB plays. That one guy gets all the snaps, fame, attention, glory, and fortune.

The other guy gets nothing.

The starting job is everything.
Right. Except there’s nothing that says the MSU transfer who hardly played as a freshman was better than the returning ASU freshman who hardly played as a freshman. Similar recruiting rankings. Dillingham was the head coach who signed Rashada.

Unless Dillingham said ‘the job’s not yours’, why not compete at ASU?

It’s pretty wild. Bad advice all over the place. Maybe the NCAA will be forced to offer unlimited eligibility as long as you’re ’making progress toward a degree’.

Rashada might be a 28-year-old redshirt freshman just trying to crack the lineup at Baylor in 8 years. Stack that paper.
 
So the target has changed....used to be " yeah I was on the football team at Milford High and got a scholarship at State U...had a great time, meet some great friends, got a diploma, worked my butt off in two a days....in 98 we beat Better State U...great experience, great memories"....wear your jersey around the neighborhood.... Now it is I need a path to the pros..one way or the other.
 
Times change when players with a few years in the pros make a minimum of say $5-10 mil per annum. That's life altering money.
 
So the target has changed....used to be " yeah I was on the football team at Milford High and got a scholarship at State U...had a great time, meet some great friends, got a diploma, worked my butt off in two a days....in 98 we beat Better State U...great experience, great memories"....wear your jersey around the neighborhood.... Now it is I need a path to the pros..one way or the other.
Just saw the Dylan Movie, these time They are changing, but this change happened at least 30 years ago.
 
I have an idea. NIL money should be placed in more of a trust/deferred compensation and/or vesting situation that incentivizes athletes to stay. Also because how can you expect an 18-19 year old to understand and know how to handle that kind of money and contract. These kids are already getting a full ride inclusive of living expenses and health coverage. They could get the new revenue sharing money as a stipend for those who need more travel money for themselves or families, those small % who have kids or want to help other family. But the rest of the large NIL sums should be handled differently.
 
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I have an idea. NIL money should be placed in more of a trust/deferred compensation and/or vesting situation that incentivizes athletes to stay. Also because how can you expect an 18-19 year old to understand and know how to handle that kind of money and contract. These kids are already getting a full ride inclusive of living expenses and health coverage. They could get the new revenue sharing money as a stipend for those who need more travel money for themselves or families, those small % who have kids or want to help other family. But the rest of the large NIL sums should be handled differently.
All sorts of models that lots of people would’ve loved.

But the NCAA insisted on the nobody gets paid never and no you cannot have bagels with cream cheese as a snack that’s gotta be a meal and here we are.

Imagine the outrage a decade ago if we’d heard a $5k monthly stipend for players. What’s better? Oral contracts with no enforcement mechanism and no official tie to the school.

Somebody is going to figure out multi year deals soon, but I doubt you’ll ever see a promising football player graduate from the MAC or Sunbelt again. Oh well.
 
All sorts of models that lots of people would’ve loved.

But the NCAA insisted on the nobody gets paid never and no you cannot have bagels with cream cheese as a snack that’s gotta be a meal and here we are.

Imagine the outrage a decade ago if we’d heard a $5k monthly stipend for players. What’s better? Oral contracts with no enforcement mechanism and no official tie to the school.

Somebody is going to figure out multi year deals soon, but I doubt you’ll ever see a promising football player graduate from the MAC or Sunbelt again. Oh well.
Agree it’s such a dramatic shift that the NCAA just seemingly washed it s hands of regulating. You get Harbaugh suspended for buying a kid a cheeseburger, that was just a few years back.
 
I have an idea. NIL money should be placed in more of a trust/deferred compensation and/or vesting situation that incentivizes athletes to stay. Also because how can you expect an 18-19 year old to understand and know how to handle that kind of money and contract. These kids are already getting a full ride inclusive of living expenses and health coverage. They could get the new revenue sharing money as a stipend for those who need more travel money for themselves or families, those small % who have kids or want to help other family. But the rest of the large NIL sums should be handled differently.
This is where the NCAA dropped the ball. Something like this could well have worked before all the horses left the barn. (I suggested something similar when NIL was looming but of course NCAA wasn't mining the Rivals Boards then and your idea will also likely be left wafting in the wind. :)
 
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Rashada is back in the portal after serving as Georgia’s third stringer this year.

He transferred when ASU brought in someone to compete with him (Sam Leavitt, MSU, same class) and now is transferring because he’s behind Stockton at Georgia.

It’s a shame that so many kids don’t want to compete for a role. He could’ve spent a year handing to Skattebo, getting better as the year went on, and playing in the CFP. (Leavitt was…fine this year. Rashada could’ve competed and won, unless he was ‘asked to leave’ for being me-first.)

Oh well.

He’s gotten lots of bad advice. I still hope he wins his lawsuit.
They might be OK with competing but so many "competitions" winners are already pre selected, Not much point if you only gotta year
 
This is where the NCAA dropped the ball. Something like this could well have worked before all the horses left the barn. (I suggested something similar when NIL was looming but of course NCAA wasn't mining the Rivals Boards then and your idea will also likely be left wafting in the wind. :)

I go back and forth on this. Yes, I 100% agree that the NCAA overplayed its hand and left ZERO goodwill to negotiate where the sport could go from ZERO compensation. But I also think, even if the NCAA had negotiated in extremely good faith and willfully opened the doors to paying players, we always would've had lawyers and legislators arguing the legality of limiting an individual player's right to do (and earn) infinitely.

The same is true for @FanatiCat 's suggestion that the money be put into a trust - probably a good idea, but you'd always have a player or a player's greedy parent/lawyer/agent challenging the legality of regulating how a (theoretically) sane, competent adult's earnings should not be restricted for any reason.

Honestly, I think the best back-door solution to nonstop transferring is placing academic restrictions on process. If you want to limit a player's ability to transfer every time he's not named the starter, then you can do it through the admissions office and audit every kid's ability to earn his degree with so many disparate credits that lead to nowhere. The main issue here is this must be decided and agreed upon by member schools with an independent clearinghouse (which, honestly, the NCAA could probably establish and operate), so when Ohio State sees a great QB they want going on his fourth time transferring, they can't just waive him through to benefit their own agenda - in this case, the kid in question might be stuck somewhere until he reaches a point where he's made enough academic progress to be viable for a degree elsewhere, or complete his degree and then transfer as a grad. Imagine that - put the "college" back into college football.
 
Yes, I am cautiously optimistic that a completely different kind of approach to recruiting at NU - where we value player development and continuity - will yield very good returns as it historically has over typical higher-profile "hat dance" kids who wind up bouncing around four times in four years to never find what they're looking for, while those programs experience high turnover and unmet potential.

Our stated NIL strategy - to retain rather than recruit - will also hopefully help protect us from poaching and kids looking for greener pastures after a good season.
Only if we can keep them in the fold. If they keep leaving with one or two years of eligibility remaining it does not work so well, Especially since they often are more developmental projects that take an extra year or so of development to be effective
 
Right. Except there’s nothing that says the MSU transfer who hardly played as a freshman was better than the returning ASU freshman who hardly played as a freshman. Similar recruiting rankings. Dillingham was the head coach who signed Rashada.

Unless Dillingham said ‘the job’s not yours’, why not compete at ASU?

It’s pretty wild. Bad advice all over the place. Maybe the NCAA will be forced to offer unlimited eligibility as long as you’re ’making progress toward a degree’.

Rashada might be a 28-year-old redshirt freshman just trying to crack the lineup at Baylor in 8 years. Stack that paper.
If he can get paid everywhere it can be a nice living
 
So the target has changed....used to be " yeah I was on the football team at Milford High and got a scholarship at State U...had a great time, meet some great friends, got a diploma, worked my butt off in two a days....in 98 we beat Better State U...great experience, great memories"....wear your jersey around the neighborhood.... Now it is I need a path to the pros..one way or the other.
Getting to the pros pays a LOT more than it did back them.
 
Absolutely. So go out and, y'know, EARN IT.
QB is unique in that only one plays. The problem is that generally it isn't a fair competition so if the kid sees the path is blocked in any way, he needs to move to somewhere it isn't. Does not have the time to wait around because there is someone is always a bigger better deal coming in. Just look at all the NU QBs that come in never really got the chance to play
 
QB is unique in that only one plays. The problem is that generally it isn't a fair competition so if the kid sees the path is blocked in any way, he needs to move to somewhere it isn't. Does not have the time to wait around because there is someone is always a bigger better deal coming in. Just look at all the NU QBs that come in never really got the chance to play
What makes it an unfair competition? Just because you lost out on the competition doesn’t make it unfair.
 
Only if we can keep them in the fold. If they keep leaving with one or two years of eligibility remaining it does not work so well, Especially since they often are more developmental projects that take an extra year or so of development to be effective
It's funny, I made that comment what now seems like a million years ago. A factor that I had not considered - grad transfers.

Even when we are operating at a relatively high level - like if we could consistently achieve 8-9 win seasons, I think we will always be in danger of losing top-shelf talent who want to spend their last year of eligibility (after graduation) testing the market for their worth and maybe chasing a playoff bid. That will permanently be a problem for us in this new frontier, and there will always be playoff-caliber programs ready to take them from us.
 
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