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[ThatkidfromHolland]

You say this based on absolutely nothing.
Mainly its a reaction to my season-long statements that Windham needs to play.

I have reliable, valid stats that say you are totally wrong.
Evan Miyakawa has stats that say the exact same thing.

You cult guys are nuts. You let arguments with me determine your opinions.
And then when you are proven wrong, you re-write history - with crazy sh*t like "Windham's defense was awful."

I’m assuming I’m one of the “cult guys” here because, at the start of this year, I didn’t think KJ was even an average defender at that point in time. Your stats don’t measure defense and, in fact, they tend to penalize good defensive players, as I’ve explained in multiple posts before, and I won’t derail this thread further by getting into it again. However, I will say that my disagreements with you haven’t changed my opinion.

I don’t think you give Leach enough credit for figuring out his game. The guy was playing at a very high level before his injury. In my opinion, he was always at least decent in the half-court, and when his three-point shot was falling, he became very, very good. He figured out the press later in the season and became more comfortable with his shot, which led to his game really taking off. He absolutely deserved the minutes over KJ at that time.

KJ simply developed faster than I expected, which I’m really happy about. I was very high on his potential out the gate, he just wasn’t defensively there yet, which is normal for a freshman. He’s also not a good defender yet, but I fully expect to become a very good one in the future. He’s a different player than he was even a month ago.

 

[CoralSpringsCat]

Well at least another dozen posters have or had the same opinion, so we must all be idiotic ( I think that is the term you used). What you keep referring to as valid stats are you own creation of player valuation that you keep promoting in post game +/- parody that serves to in your mind put your basketball acumen above most everyone else’s. It’s insulting and frankly, you don’t have to be Coach Lowrey to see KJ struggled to adapt on the defensive side. Pretty much like every newcomer not named Chase Audige. Our own Coaches said as much earlier in the year. I realize you think some of those Coaches are idiots too, but they have been successful because they actually understand the game.

What kills me about your posts, is you present them as fact because you create some algorithm that you “think” makes you correct. I have no idea why CCC hasn’t hired you yet with this ground breaking analysis. You are a box score analyst, you either don't know what you are looking at when watching a game or you refuse to acknowledge that your viewpoints aren’t infallible. You don’t even realize that when you accuse me and others of making “sh*t” up, you do the same thing. It’s opinions PWB, mine just happens to be the polar opposite of yours on most everything! You don’t need to bring me or others up in every thread to prolong this bull sh*t and I’ll keep you out of my posts.

PWB it is probably best we don’t respond to each other posts. Give everyone else a break on this board. We’ll see.

BSA = Box Score Analyst

 

[IGNORE2]

My white steed is a marine themed snowboard and my pasture is freshly powdered Heavenly mountain.

 

[IGNORE2]

Well at least another dozen posters have or had the same opinion, so we must all be idiotic ( I think that is the term you used). What you keep referring to as valid stats are you own creation of player valuation that you keep promoting in post game +/- parody that serves to in your mind put your basketball acumen above most everyone else’s. It’s insulting and frankly, you don’t have to be Coach Lowrey to see KJ struggled to adapt on the defensive side. Pretty much like every newcomer not named Chase Audige. Our own Coaches said as much earlier in the year. I realize you think some of those Coaches are idiots too, but they have been successful because they actually understand the game.

What kills me about your posts, is you present them as fact because you create some algorithm that you “think” makes you correct. I have no idea why CCC hasn’t hired you yet with this ground breaking analysis. You are a box score analyst, you either don't know what you are looking at when watching a game or you refuse to acknowledge that your viewpoints aren’t infallible. You don’t even realize that when you accuse me and others of making “sh*t” up, you do the same thing. It’s opinions PWB, mine just happens to be the polar opposite of yours on most everything! You don’t need to bring me or others up in every thread to prolong this bull sh*t and I’ll keep you out of my posts.

PWB it is probably best we don’t respond to each other posts. Give everyone else a break on this board. We’ll see.

A dozen or so? Mmhmm. I think this is the creating narrative to fit your opinion and adding a mysterious army of phantom support. Show me a dozen posters saying KJ defense was awful. You won’t even get CGC since he believes every person associated with NU athletics shits rainbows.

You may be right but your hyperbole and exaggeration place your credibility in the same bucket with SD.

 

[IGNORE2]

Well at least another dozen posters have or had the same opinion, so we must all be idiotic ( I think that is the term you used). What you keep referring to as valid stats are you own creation of player valuation that you keep promoting in post game +/- parody that serves to in your mind put your basketball acumen above most everyone else’s. It’s insulting and frankly, you don’t have to be Coach Lowrey to see KJ struggled to adapt on the defensive side. Pretty much like every newcomer not named Chase Audige. Our own Coaches said as much earlier in the year. I realize you think some of those Coaches are idiots too, but they have been successful because they actually understand the game.

What kills me about your posts, is you present them as fact because you create some algorithm that you “think” makes you correct. I have no idea why CCC hasn’t hired you yet with this ground breaking analysis. You are a box score analyst, you either don't know what you are looking at when watching a game or you refuse to acknowledge that your viewpoints aren’t infallible. You don’t even realize that when you accuse me and others of making “sh*t” up, you do the same thing. It’s opinions PWB, mine just happens to be the polar opposite of yours on most everything! You don’t need to bring me or others up in every thread to prolong this bull sh*t and I’ll keep you out of my posts.

PWB it is probably best we don’t respond to each other posts. Give everyone else a break on this board. We’ll see.

The other question is whether you were this hard on gcg - the self professed college football expert that couldn’t keep a job in NUFB yet spoke with a god like accent.

 

[No Chores]

Bigs traditionally take longer to develop so hard to count on that, They are perfect candidates for RS s as Frosh, giving them the time to gain the strength they need for the position and develop coordination and footwork. He has upside but we need someone for next year. He may be fine the year after but it would be scary to have him as the guy they are counting on to anchor the middle next year

Cannot agree with this. There are freshman bigs starting all over the country, and we don't have anyone on the current roster who can fill that role. Plus, it's tough to imagine picking up someone in the portal who can be an effective starting center. So I think we'll all have to wait and see what happens in the off-season.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

The other question is whether you were this hard on gcg - the self professed college football expert that couldn’t keep a job in NUFB yet spoke with a god like accent.

Funny you say that Bob, I have had plenty of disagreements with GCG. You bailed on the Rock, so you are maybe deferring to years ago, don’t know. I don’t believe he has called my thoughts idiotic, dumb or cast me as part of a Cult, Clique or Klan. You managed to nose your way into this in your typical Linderman approach, but I proposed a truce. Not sure you would like that because you wouldn’t have much to talk about if you weren’t defending the folks that me and some of your other board favorites disagree with, We’ll see.

Go Cats!

 

[DaCat]

Cannot agree with this. There are freshman bigs starting all over the country, and we don't have anyone on the current roster who can fill that role. Plus, it's tough to imagine picking up someone in the portal who can be an effective starting center. So I think we'll all have to wait and see what happens in the off-season.

I’m suspecting Bennerman will be closer to a freshman Nance rather than a freshman Pardon. However I would love to be proven wrong.

 

[No Chores]

I’m suspecting Bennerman will be closer to a freshman Nance rather than a freshman Pardon. However I would love to be proven wrong.

You might well be right but the problem, as I see it, is that Hunger is not the answer, and I'm not confident we can grab someone out of the portal who can be a legit Big Ten starting center

 

[PurpleWhiteBoy]

It amazes me that people look at my +/- numbers (and analysis) and somehow claim that they don't measure defense.
Or that somehow I am making things up.

What those stats do is enable me to see who has played well and who hasn't.
It enables me to have some insight into intangible aspects of the game.

In an unbiased, objective manner. With a margin of error, of course.

I've explained the method and asked for feedback. It is about as good as it can be, given the data limitations.
And it is pretty good.

 

[PurpleWhiteBoy]

I’m assuming I’m one of the “cult guys” here

Honestly, you were the 3rd cult guy, but then I realized that it would be unfair to call you that, because you can be open-minded, usually when interacting with people other than myself.

 

[Purple Pile Driver]

Honestly, you were the 3rd cult guy, but then I realized that it would be unfair to call you that, because you can be open-minded, usually when interacting with people other than myself.

I guess you aren’t interested in a truce and insist on keep taking your shots. Your daughter must have given you some horrible inside info on CCC. Maybe share that and I can exorcise myself from the Cult.

 

[DaCat]

You might well be right but the problem, as I see it, is that Hunger is not the answer, and I'm not confident we can grab someone out of the portal who can be a legit Big Ten starting center

A portal big is a "must have" for Collins, and I hope he can get one. If Bennerman bulks up another 20 pounds and is ready to bang with the big boys, even better.

 

[No Chores]

A portal big is a "must have" for Collins, and I hope he can get one. If Bennerman bulks up another 20 pounds and is ready to bang with the big boys, even better.

I agree, but I'm dubious about the ability to land a starting center in the portal. We shall see.