I brought it up because you singled me out as speculating a source of the Barry schollie was Lump. I mentioned Tap as an option too. At the time, none of us knew the JV schollie had become available due to some interesting gamesmanship. I'm not anti Phillips, though I would like to see him use a stronger hand with Fitz on asst coaches. I very much like CCC. I do not think any part of the JV matter has been handled well. Those are and have been my positions.
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I brought it up because you singled me out as speculating a source of the Barry schollie was Lump. I mentioned Tap as an option too. At the time, none of us knew the JV schollie had become available due to some interesting gamesmanship. I'm not anti Phillips, though I would like to see him use a stronger hand with Fitz on asst coaches. I very much like CCC. I do not think any part of the JV matter has been handled well. Those are and have been my positions.
So I understand, your starters were: Mac, lump, Falzon and pardon. Presumably either Law or Lindsey. So I guess there were many of us that did not foresee this season correctly. I think mine were: Mac, Lindsey, law, Falzon, pardon. Lump out. I still think mine would have been correct but for the injury. I also think RI would have redshirted (people mocked me) if Falzon held his own and Lump could play meaningful minutes.
But like I have said, I was wrong in my assessment of Lump and Tap's ceiling, happy that Law seemingly has no injury rust and soaking in the final maturity of my mancrush for Lindsey as he has really leaped forward and seems to have more room to grow.
You have a propensity for redirecting arguments into spider holes that have nothing to do with the current debated.
But, to address your latest spider hole, the minutes available due to the loss of Olah and Demps, and to a much lesser degree JVZ leaves more than enough feedstock to run all sorts of variations on the scenario I outlined in November.
But thanks for playing.
Bobby has returned to post during a winning streak, that is a surprise. One thing about a lawsuit is that the plaintiff needs to prove damages. Since Vassar is still getting a scholarship to attend NU for free that lawsuit has no merit and will be dismissed. As for the count where he sues challenging the NCAA transfer rule of having to sit out for one season that will be summarily dismissed. Good luck with that. The private asssociation known as the NCAA is not changing their rules for JV. Now NU has at least 2 remaining open scholarships where Collins can sign either a late developing high senior, a highly valued transfer who has multiplie years of eligibility left or a 5th year senior. There are many options available to CC and his staff for the 12th and 13th scholarship. But keeping on bringing up JV and other irrelevant topics like your incessant harping about who is the backup PG which has really hurt this team.
Well, you have pardon taking all of olah minutes and JvZ wasn't playing by the end. So that is about 35 minutes you are distributing among: brown, Lindsey, law, lump and tap. When I get a chance at a computer, I will try to tally the minute count from your vague post but I suspect it exceeds 200. Simple fact - normal BB game has 200 player minutes. Pretty easy to be a big fan of every player and forecast 30 minutes each when you are not bound by the rules of reality...
Huh? I have really hurt the team? You are nuts. And a terrible arm chair lawyer. And I have not stopped posting anywhere, anytime - win or lose. But I'm surprised that you are not touting about the big BTN award that your boy Springer won.
Btw, Brown has been better than I expected, but far from your prognostication. And not exactly the backup PG. we have also seen Lindsey and Ash run that spot. Many of the Brown minutes have come with Mac on the floor. But don't let reality get in your way.
Oh, my gf calls me Bobby. Many girls have. Are you revealing something about you beyond your crush for me? Ok, FA - go ahead and delete. Served its purpose
Let's see now...Xyklon Bob wants 1) the BTN WR COY fired in the worst way, and 2) our best defender and rebounder, the "heart and soul" of the basketball team, pushed out of the program.
Here's hoping your posts in 2017 are more cogent and in step with reality than the "misfires" and mayhem you've posted this past year.
I didn't see this.....
Receivers: Dennis Springer, Northwestern. This group overachieved in helping pump life into what was a pedestrian Wildcat offense in 2015, when NU was last in the Big Ten in passing offense (138.5 ypg). This season, Northwestern is No. 4 in the Big Ten in passing (247.7 ypg). Kudos to Austin Carr, a Biletnikoff finalist who leads the league with 84 catches for 1,196 yards with 12 TDs. Flynn Nagel chipped in with 37 receptions for 421 yards and two TDs, while superback Garrett Dickerson had 29 catches for 272 yards and four TDs working with breakout QB Clayton Thorson. -
http://btn.com/2016/12/19/btn-coms-2016-all-big-ten-assistant-coach-team/
1. Yes, I sure do. And you enjoy the lack of development from the WR position outside one player since that coach started, and
2. Where do you get this stuff? Make it up as you go along? Ok, glades, tell us your starting five back in August included Lump, that you saw him more than 20 mpg and predicted all of this. It really is a damn shame that you bravely choose to participate in prediction threads.
Here's to hoping your develop a new schtick in 2017. Inciting, making stuff up, just being disruptive is rather old...
Btw, Lump is the heart and soul? That's pretty insulting to any number of guys out there that seem to have taken some ownership of this team. Too bad you don't value them much.
Can you guess who coached Dickerson? Hint: not the COY for WRs. Love dem genius' over at the BTN. Hey, glades, who is your favorite BTN analyst?
I didn't send them Christmas cards either! How horribly insulting of me.
Chris Collins has repeatedly said Lumpkin is the "heart and soul" of this team in interviews and articles. I guess that's another thing you're unaware of.
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I can understand. She has some talent.You didn't ask me, but my favorite is by far Jenny Dell.....
Oh, you get your sources from coach speak. Hey, since you believe everything and all, come over to Ft Myers and I will buy your drinks all night long
Oh, you get your sources from coach speak. Hey, since you believe everything and all, come over to Ft Myers and I will buy your drinks all night long
Well, when Chris Collins says this repeatedly in interviews and I see it reported in several other articles, I tend to believe it. Who told you Lumpkin was being pushed out of the lineup? Or did you come up with that gem all on your own? Did you dismiss Coach Collin's comments about Lumpkin as "coach speak"?
Merry Christmas to you too Glades. And to the rest of you miscreets around here.
Gladeskat is right. Every commentator who has covered Lumpkin has described how important he is to the team and bring its toughness and yes, Collins is effusive in his praise of Lumpkin and whenever he is on the bench and the team struggles he puts him asap. Joey Meyer also is very high on Lumpkin.
As for the comments on Vasser. You show you are clueless. The suit has no legs or merit. JV is getting a scholarship for 4 years which is worth around $300 K for around 30 minutes of playing time in his freshman year. His damages are non-existent. He complained of having to work for a limited number of hours per week as a janitor to keep his scholarship when he was not playing. Very rough and unfair consequence. It is a non-story. Any other Big 10 school, he would have been long gone. Cream would have escorted him off the campus after he said he wanted to transfer.
As for Isiah Brown, I told you he would be instant offense off the bench and run the second team. He is the first guard off NU's bench and Ash has been a non-factor. So my analysis of Brown has been spot on and your comments on Ash show you have not been watching the game closely or maybe it shows your understanding of the game is very limited.
As for the comments on Vasser. You show you are clueless. The suit has no legs or merit. JV is getting a scholarship for 4 years which is worth around $300 K for around 30 minutes of playing time in his freshman year. His damages are non-existent. He complained of having to work for a limited number of hours per week as a janitor to keep his scholarship when he was not playing. Very rough and unfair consequence. It is a non-story. Any other Big 10 school, he would have been long gone. Cream would have escorted him off the campus after he said he wanted to transfer.
As for Isiah Brown, I told you he would be instant offense off the bench and run the second team. He is the first guard off NU's bench and Ash has been a non-factor. So my analysis of Brown has been spot on and your comments on Ash show you have not been watching the game closely or maybe it shows your understanding of the game is very limited.
The glades stuff on Lump is coach speak and for mindless warts like you.
Like many of our disagreements, this one will be decided elsewhere and publicly. I would file a number of motions to dismiss but let's see how that plays out,counselor.
Brown is hitting 30% in OOC play. While he has been better than i hoped, he is not forcing himself into the starting rotation. With only 3 guards, one who has not panned out, and Law, brown has to play. But he usually plays with mac. Law and lindsey manage the BH more often than brown with Mac out. What games are you watching?
Ash is a very solid player and may end up getting as much or more time than Brown. We need Brown as Bmac is underperforming. Ash is a better defensive player,and spreads the ball around better than both those guys.BMac needs to calm down and pass more. If Mac gets his game in order,he gets 2nd or 3rd team All BT. Lindsay ,Pardon, and Law are both 1st or 2nd team All BT!
BMac is not an elite, All Big 10 guard. Just isn't.
Law is finding himself this season but also isn't All Big 10.
Lindsey may be the second best player after Sanjay.
Here one from over 2 years ago, so Collins has been saying it for awhile now. Google "Sanjay Lumpkin heart and soul", and you will find a number of other articles:
http://www.startribune.com/reusse-special-game-for-lumpkin-and-the-wildcats-at-the-barn/243130931/
Pah! Just coachspeak! Even though he only seems to say it about Lumpkin. Means nothing!
Unless it supports your opinion...then you're all for it.
Sure. That's it. +1M And you are the gold standard of objectivity. Where's doc?
Ignored my second sentence, I see. There have been a number of articles written in the last two years.
Don't bother replying. If you find something in print it is coach speak. If not then "see, he's not the heart and soul". Naming him a Captain for 2 consecutive years is probably also coach speak.
Then why not post one. I think we have long established that unless you can cite your own authority, the gimmick of sending others to chase wild goose is never going to happen. If I want to cite check others, I'll go back to law review. At least those kids will provide a direct citation.
Well, by my count, of the 8 posts opining roles for this season, one suggested the heart and soul starts and many opined a far diminished role including super poster Walker. As usual, neither glades nor va brought anything to the table, sat back and got their sniper posts ready. So I am in some pretty fine company publicly. And the rest of you quiet stalkers reluctantly would agree if forced, you also did not expect the heart and soul to start or log heavy minutes until Falzon and RI went down.
I rest my case. Merry Christmas. Glades - good time for a deflection Walker - good time to disappear again for awhile
I rest my case. Merry Christmas. Glades - good time for a deflection Walker - good time to disappear again for awhile
Premature Bob at it again.
1) http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/story/in-fifth-year-grandfather-sanjay-lumpkin-anchors-w/
Read Collins' quote before the year. It is clear that Collins loves his play as the glue guy and leader of the team. Glue guy means that he is willing to do the little things that it takes to win games that might not always show up in the stat sheet such as setting screens, diving on the floor and most importantly guarding the other team's best player (which will be key when NU plays Jok - Iowa, Malcolm Hill - Illinois, Zak Irvin - UM, OG and Blackmon - IU, Amir Coffey - Minny and Shep Garner - PSU) and holding that player below their ppg average. For Lumpkin, he has filled in the voids very well in the absence of Flazon and Pardon and taken advantage of the opportunity of increased mpg (28.2 mpg).
The undisputed fact is that he has been named captain of the team for the past two seasons. That is a good indication of his importance on and off the floor. With Falzon's absence, Lumpkins' minutes have increased to 28.2 mpg and with Pardon's absence his rpg have increased to 7.5 mpg. My projections before the year were assuming that Falzon and Pardon were healthy which they have not been, so those projections are moot or meaningless. Hopefully, you can understand this post.
2) Since you are still confused about minutes and who is the backup ball handler on the team, let's try facts once again.
McIntosh averages 33.3 mpg and Lindsey averages 30.5 mpg. That means that 6.7 mpg need to be filled by someone else at PG and 9.5 mpg need to be filled in by someone else. Who has filled in the role as the primary backup PG and SG? I know, you have not figured that out yet. But let me help you since you need help in almost all of your opinions. It is Isiah Brown, who is averaging 16.9 mpg so that means he is playing both the backup PG and backup SG. Ash is a bit player, who has not played in 5 games due to DNP-CD (that means did not play - coaches' decision). He fills in for a minute at the end of the first half and a minute, here in there, in the second half.
1) http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/story/in-fifth-year-grandfather-sanjay-lumpkin-anchors-w/
Read Collins' quote before the year. It is clear that Collins loves his play as the glue guy and leader of the team. Glue guy means that he is willing to do the little things that it takes to win games that might not always show up in the stat sheet such as setting screens, diving on the floor and most importantly guarding the other team's best player (which will be key when NU plays Jok - Iowa, Malcolm Hill - Illinois, Zak Irvin - UM, OG and Blackmon - IU, Amir Coffey - Minny and Shep Garner - PSU) and holding that player below their ppg average. For Lumpkin, he has filled in the voids very well in the absence of Flazon and Pardon and taken advantage of the opportunity of increased mpg (28.2 mpg).
The undisputed fact is that he has been named captain of the team for the past two seasons. That is a good indication of his importance on and off the floor. With Falzon's absence, Lumpkins' minutes have increased to 28.2 mpg and with Pardon's absence his rpg have increased to 7.5 mpg. My projections before the year were assuming that Falzon and Pardon were healthy which they have not been, so those projections are moot or meaningless. Hopefully, you can understand this post.
2) Since you are still confused about minutes and who is the backup ball handler on the team, let's try facts once again.
McIntosh averages 33.3 mpg and Lindsey averages 30.5 mpg. That means that 6.7 mpg need to be filled by someone else at PG and 9.5 mpg need to be filled in by someone else. Who has filled in the role as the primary backup PG and SG? I know, you have not figured that out yet. But let me help you since you need help in almost all of your opinions. It is Isiah Brown, who is averaging 16.9 mpg so that means he is playing both the backup PG and backup SG. Ash is a bit player, who has not played in 5 games due to DNP-CD (that means did not play - coaches' decision). He fills in for a minute at the end of the first half and a minute, here in there, in the second half.
Two references from last season:
https://dailynorthwestern.com/2016/...ern-finds-defensive-leader-in-sanjay-lumpkin/
http://www.nusports.com/news/2015/12/4/MBB_1204153220.aspx?path=mbball
"But it did reap the admiration of Collins, who often referred to his forward as his team's glue guy, as his team's heart-and-soul."
https://dailynorthwestern.com/2016/...ern-finds-defensive-leader-in-sanjay-lumpkin/
http://www.nusports.com/news/2015/12/4/MBB_1204153220.aspx?path=mbball
"But it did reap the admiration of Collins, who often referred to his forward as his team's glue guy, as his team's heart-and-soul."
Hey walks, mr. 'Had Lumpkin out of the starter spot before all the injuries', watch the games. Stats are for losers. There have been more minutes with law and Lindsey handling the ball in macs absence than brown. By far. Not even close. Not saying that it won't change, but if you watch the games you might learn something.
As for your preseason projections, are you agreeing that despite all CCCs public adoration for the heart and soul, you still had him on the bench and playing less than 20? But CCC loved him then too - even before everybody got hurt. What are you saying - that like me, you expected the PT would go to Falzon and RI, and like me, now that they are hurt, you are not surprised to see Lump starting and playing heavy minutes. And, like me, you are pleasantly surprised to see his better than expected performance? Or should we pretend all your early posts never happened...cannot stand by your own words, huh? Guess you are not like me after all. Cheers
For the board, you did all catch walk's assumption that Lindsey's 30 minutes occured during Macs 33 and therefore logically support walkers contention. I hope this cute little bit was not lost on y'all. He has to be very, very young. Poor kid, won't ever get into NU.
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Too early. You probably left the NU ND game before the final whistle. Now, the fat lady has sung. Merry Christmas va, hope you decide to find something meaningful to share with the class next year - but not holding my breath.
