If I had a nickel for every loss that Collins said "we had open looks but didn't knock them down" I'd have 85 cents.
What can Collins learn from Loyola?
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If I had a nickel for every loss that Collins said "we had open looks but didn't knock them down" I'd have 85 cents.
Lots of good points here. I also felt that the Ramblers were in better "shape" than NU. They played pretty tough down the stretch, while we seemed to falter in the final minutes----especially towards the end of the season. I am not sure that they were a lot deeper than
we were.
Man, how did Collins get so stupid this year? I don't recall any of these helpful comments last year when he was a media and Board darling.....
Here's one from January 5, 2017, Fitzphile.
Now, can you show me where anyone said CC was stupid?
Why would anyone risk the wrath of certain board members by criticizing CC. He has been good for NU but is still maturing as a coach
Maybe a more appropriate question is what can Porter Moser and Loyola learn from Chris Collins and NU's struggles the year following their tournament run?
There are many parallels between last year's Northwestern team and this year's Loyola team:
-- Unofficial mascot that the media focuses on(Charlie's mom vs Sister Jean)
-- Historic tournament drought ended
-- Exceeding expections
-- Key players from tournament run returning the following year
Hopefully, Loyola doesn't suffer the same letdown that NU had this year.
There are many parallels between last year's Northwestern team and this year's Loyola team:
-- Unofficial mascot that the media focuses on(Charlie's mom vs Sister Jean)
-- Historic tournament drought ended
-- Exceeding expections
-- Key players from tournament run returning the following year
Hopefully, Loyola doesn't suffer the same letdown that NU had this year.
Nice thought, but we actually were 283rd in the country in 2-pt FG% (47.1%). Poor shooting percentages all around--except at the free throw line, where we shot almost 75% and were 56th in the country.
Pardon is my favorite Cat, but you just didn’t compare him to Hakeem did you?
How did that Krutwig get so few offers from top programs? I realize he doesn’t look the part and can’t jump over a piece of paper, but we sure could use his “old man” game down low. We have one guy that can do anything inside. One! Krutwig was scoring on the B1G champion on the biggest stage.
The way Krutwig played made me think how disappointing Benson's play was this year. Collins needs him to take a big step forward next year. Sometimes it takes big men longer to develop. Hopefully that's the case with Benson.
Agree. Krutwig had one go-to move, where he patiently backed into the lane and shot a baby hook. Benson just looks too frantic on offense. Coach James needs to spend mucho time with Barret on offense.
NU needs to get better post guys than projects in the Benson/Kyle Rowley mold. Pardon is a gem and one of the most underrated players in the country, but as we've seen, you can't count on finding a sleeper like him in each class. Can't have any more post guys who don't measure up athletically and still lack the skill refinement to play significant roles in their first two seasons.
No I didn't mean it like that. I just had to use the best example of what multiple post moves can do for a player.
They had depth and we were down to about 7-8 players max down the stretch. Injuries can make a big difference
Most Bigs are projects. Often because of difficultly of dealing with growth spurts that lead to their heights The ones that are ready to play as Frosh are much rarer
What makes his move effective is that he can do it with either hand although he obviously favors the left. He also has great footwork and is very patient with it — keeps going if his initial pivot is checked. The guy has obviously had very good coaching. It's unusual to see a first-year college big man that accomplished in the low post. We had a great big man at my local alma mater the past couple of seasons, but it took him a while in college to polish his moves.
Bullfeathers. There are plenty of big guys who make significant contributions their first couple of seasons.
The bottom line is that recruiting has to be better in this area. Since Esch, I count one good back-to-the-basket pivot in Pardon and one decent one in Olah. That has to change.
Mo Wagner averaged 2.9 pts/game in 30 games as a Freshman......how'd he turn out?
This is your argument: "Oh yeah? What about this guy over here?" That's called "anecdotal evidence." Do most players who contribute 2/3 ppg as underclassmen blossom into stars? Of course not.
Why is what I'm posting even controversial? Who are the NU pivots I'm leaving out over the past 20 years?
Every now and then a guy rated in that 150-300 range turns out to be a real sleeper. Most of the time, though, they play like how they're rated: well below the best players at the position, in part because they either lack athleticism or because they need more skill development.
It's harder and harder to find sleeper recruits just by virtue of technology, compared to the past. I can pull up minutes of current recruits playing summer and high school basketball. If you're good, it's harder to slip through the cracks.
Yep, more anecdotal evidence.
Where are all the examples of NU pivots developing into those types of players over the past decades.
Recruiting needs to improve dramatically. Bottom line.
Purdue was among others recruiting Benson. He just has been slow to develop. I always site the case of Bill Woislaw at Nothwestern in the early 60s. Did virtually nothing until his senior year when he made a quantum leap and became one of the better big men in the BIG.
That can be highly misleading. Was he a priority recruit? Did Purdue and the other high-major programs bring him in for official visits?
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