Assuming Fitz attorney will want him to say those comments under oath. Conversely the plaintiffs will certainly cross examine him.
Will Mike Hankwitz get deposed
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Yes but his comments make Schill, Gragg, and the victims look bad. I think Hank made a huge mistake with that interview.
How is it a mistake if that is how he feels about it?
Because you don’t bite the hand that feeds you. Michael Schill is not an enemy he needs in his retirement.
I think you are giving Schill way to much credit, what's another lawsuit against NU......
I highly doubt a guy like Hank fears or cares about what Schill thinks. He won’t be at NU much longer.
I think we'd just be happy with Schill put the best interests of the university first—like, using that legal acumen to read the report about that "small entity" he calls the football program.
What leverage does Schill have over Hank? Cancel his alumni magazine subscription?
Not that I think Hank is beholden to Schill in any way, but that's the wrong reason to lie about what you truly believe.
Alas, that is the mechanism that cows people in the age of cancel culture. People are scared to say what they believe out of fear of their livelihood.
I see Schill has started another burner account. Cappy, time to ban this one also.
Why does every fan who is Anti Fitz get sent away? Pat Fitzgerald deserved to be fired and is to be blamed for this series of events. Michael Schill and Derrick Gragg just got here. They are facing ridicule because they are the outsiders and Fitz is the ultimate insider.
They are facing ridicule because of the incompetent way they handled the decision making process and how ineptly they communicated (or didn't communicate) during a crisis management situation for the University. They utterly failed in their leadership roles. One day this will end up being a Kellogg business case study in utter and complete management failure.
Not to mention that Pat Fitzgerald did not deserve to be fired for what transpired. I think that will become apparent to most if these lawsuits ever go to trial. The football program and the Athletic Department are significantly worse off with Fitz gone and I am not sure they will ever be able to recover.
Absurd. These victims may have had an axe to grind with Fitz, but they weren’t making it up. You are highly gullible if you believe Fitz didn’t know about the hazing.
Let me know when you have as much success in your career as Dr Schill has had in his. The man is absolutely brilliant and any academic institution is incredibly lucky to have him. Thankfully the Board of Trustees believe in this man.
No, I don't think Schill can just pull the plug if a retired ex-employee does not do his bidding. That sounds illegal.
I never said they were making it up. What's apparent to me is that a small handful of players over a 20 year period when hundreds of players matriculated through NU's football program are now expressing concerns with how they were treated by other players in locker room hazing rituals that over the years went overboard particularly considering some of the changes in societal norms that have occurred over that 20 year period. What's also apparent to me is the catalyst for these complaints is a player that had an axe to grind against Fitz over playing time and I don't find it coincidental that the complaint was filed days after that player was passed over for the starting QB job by a 1st year walk on QB. What's also apparent to me is that some other accusers who subsequently emerged went years without expressing any concerns and in some instances continued to publicly praise their experiences at NU and with Coach Fitz. Lastly, what's also apparent to me is that Fitz continues to be revered by 95% + of the players that went through the program and that no one has provided one shred of evidence that Fitz knew of this conduct or condoned it. That to me and most other NU supporters is not conduct that justifies firing of a man who has done so much for NU, the players and staff that matriculated through NU's football program over an almost 20 year career as NU's head coach. Fitz deserved to be held accountable for what happened on his watch but he also deserved a chance to fix it.
Talk about coercion. Sounds like Schill through his burner account or henchmen is trying to intimidate Hank into silence.
They are facing ridicule because their job performances during this crisis is borderline incompetent
LOL! Deserve the chance to fix it? Did you read DailyNorthwestern article highlighting the accusations? What Fitz is accused of is borderline criminal.
GTFO Troll.
What's apparent to me is many of your claims are not supported by objective facts. At least one law firm has stated more than a week ago that they have been in contact with about 50 victims. Many were probably football players. There are additional lawsuits with more victim plaintiffs. Clearly not a small handful. There will be many more coming forward in the future. We are still in the early days of the legal proceedings. There will also be a larger number of players who will be doing their best to avoid any involvement because they were victims who later became perpetrators. You will probably never know for certain the true extent of the abuses that occurred over the past decade plus. None of us may ever know.
You and the other members of the Fitzgerald choir have made a sport of raising questions of motive as a device for calling into question the veracity of victim claims. But no choir members have questioned Fitzgerald's motives for denying knowledge of the hazing that occurred for years under his watch. From my own experience in taking depositions I can state that the two most reliable motivating factors for people to be untruthful in civil proceedings are money and reputation. Fitzgerald has both motivations in spades. Playing time or a $40 million dollar payout on a contract? Hmm...
I also don't find your assertions of his level of support from his players supported by facts. Did you survey every player that has passed through the program during his tenure? Has anyone else done such a survey? Your 95%+ claim is nothing more than anecdotal. Similarly your claim that most NU supporters do not think the conduct so far revealed justifies his firing is also only anecdotal. I think that a majority of NU supporters of the university do believe that his firing was justified by the facts so far made public. My opinion here also is anecdotal being based on articles written by some alums, statements about how the BoT voted, and the faculty letter.
Fitzgerald failed over a period of more than a decade to correct serious problems in his program. He knew or should have known about the hazing. I am not saying that he knew all the details of the more depraved conduct. But it is long past time for anyone posting on this board to state that he knew nothing. Even his most ardent supporters have conceded that hazing was and is still very widespread among college football programs. It was also common knowledge at least as far back as the 80s that a majority of high school athletes experienced hazing. And yet some deniers would push on with the truly incredible claim that Fitzgerald had no idea that hazing could be occurring in his program.
My hope is that the several lawsuits go forward to trial and judgment. I am encouraged by early statements from two firms that there will be no settlements. I hope that NU supporters who love the university agree that we need an extremely thorough investigation of the facts including the eventual identification of all perpetrators.
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LOL , you speak about “facts”, and you follow that with a phrase that contains “many were probably”. Let’s.get real, you don’t know squat other than Carl Richardson’s biased account which The Daily basically printed unedited with zero verification. What I do know is that for every Carl Richardson, there are at least 25 NU players who stand behind FItz. That ratio tells me something.
I was wondering if you were that Manhattacat (sic), and now you've confirmed it. Thank you. I wonder where you've been all this time.
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Like I said, a small amount of players who felt mistreated by some teammates vs. an overwhelming amount of players over a 20 year period who cherished their time at NU and revere Fitz. Perception is in the eye of the beholder.
So he should sacrifice his integrity, lie about a good friend, and be less than honest because of a possible loss of a monetary pension ? gotcha
some people aren’t for sale
I think he’s lying for Fitz. I’d like to see him say these things in a deposition. See if Hank is willing to perjure himself.
Let's put Richardson up on the stand and see what he'll say under oath.
You don’t think Schill already thought of that? Schill knows who credible and who isn’t. The man is brilliant.
Oh, so just come out and say it. you think Hank is lying. Very odd way of saying that. it sounded a lot more like you think Hank should lie and stab Fitz in the back to safeguard a monetary gain/pension.
Hank is not the kind of guy to lie. Like most of us, if deposed we would just tell the truth.
I think his testimony could put the student newspaper in some serious legal jeopardy. look forward to it.
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because I find it hard to believe the coaches didn’t know what was going on.
Of course the majority of former players probably cherish their time at NU and revere Fitz, but maybe a lot of them also participated in or thru inaction silently condoned the hazing / initiation. Peer pressure makes people do crazy stuff and pass on what was done to them.
I sure revered Fitz enough to listen to him at an alumni event and get his autograph on my rose bowl hat and get a photo. But now his obliviousness and inaction on something as hot button as hazing have me questioning how all this went on so long if Fitz was really practicing what he preached and was an effective football CEO.
I sure revered Fitz enough to listen to him at an alumni event and get his autograph on my rose bowl hat and get a photo. But now his obliviousness and inaction on something as hot button as hazing have me questioning how all this went on so long if Fitz was really practicing what he preached and was an effective football CEO.
Come on, this is rodiculous. Even the accusers acknowledge the offending players numbered only a few. There are 100+ players on an NU football roster. The vast majority of players at NU over Fitz’s 20 years neither participated in this behavior nor felt victimized by this behavior.
Are you comfortable with the idea that the vast majority knew about/witnessed the behavior and said nothing?
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