Man, it did not take long to get the usual suspects right back into butt munch mode.
Wow
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What I find amusing is that many of the same people who will not hear a bad word spoken about NU athletes will immediately turn on any current or former athlete who dares to utter a critical word about the program. Imagine if someone had said Nate Williams sounded like a dick or said they were really starting to hate him because of something he'd done on the field! Oh, the meltdown that would have ensued.
Why are you pretty sure it extends into the Lockerroom?
I think this team is extremely focused with great leadership and i dont think this team is even thinking about michiganor how they played.
Imo i think the players are probably keeping their heads up, pumped and excited about Iowa.
This thread is totally ridiculous. People are getting upset at Williams for being upset while they themselves are also upset. People on this board criticize McCall every single time we lose. People on this board called for McCall's job last off season. Then when someone who actually knows what they are watching says that McCall did a bad job, you call him a dick for doing so! Taking a problem with his tone is one thing if he's seems to have a vendetta against a specific person, but the value in reading an analysis from someone like williams is that he has some credibility in diagnosing the actual problem. If McCall is the problem in his opinion, how does he write a credible and valuable analysis without saying that McCall is the problem. If he compares him to a high school coach, its probably because Williams believe his tendencies resemble one. If you have a problem with people writing things that are inspired by their passion, this is DEFINITELY the wrong place to come.
If your criteria for good coaching is for all of our players to develop into studs like Persa, then you won't like Harbaugh, Saban, or Meyer either. Something IS definitely wrong with Thorson's speed option play, but I/we don't know where to place blame for this: McCall, Thorson, or recruiting. If we're gonna run a speed option as a key part of our offense, then recruit kids who can execute the option reasonably well and who like to run the option.
What frustrates me about McCall isn't the player development so much as the general lack of scoring. Here are our national ranks in scoring offense during his tenure:
2008: 74
2009: 71
2010: 64
2011: 51
2012: 42
2013: 84
2014: 100
2015 (so far): 109
In eight years, we've only averaged 30+ points once, in 2012. Dan Persa was one of the best QBs we've ever had and we couldn't crack the top 50 in scoring with him?
2008: 74
2009: 71
2010: 64
2011: 51
2012: 42
2013: 84
2014: 100
2015 (so far): 109
In eight years, we've only averaged 30+ points once, in 2012. Dan Persa was one of the best QBs we've ever had and we couldn't crack the top 50 in scoring with him?
I don't know how to readily look up these numbers, but how does it look in the Big Ten? I'm not really interested in comparing to all those leagues that basically have no defense.
Well, 13 and 14 look pretty bad, but it's hard to say that the ranking was terrible before then.
YPG numbers look better, but yards without scoring are somewhat irrelevant. McCall's offense does place a premium on ball control/time control than absolutely maxing out scoring. I don't whether I like it or not, if I'm honest. Don't quite think it's appropriate to call him a high school level coach, but that makes me sensitive so it is what it is.
I don't who to blame for why Thorson doesn't run the speed option well, but I do know who to blame for calling the speed option.
Not terrible, no, but it's just amazing to me that -- for example -- in 2009 we had a QB that would be taken in the 4th round in the NFL Draft and who was the only QB drafted out of the Big Ten that year... and we finished 7th out of 11 teams in scoring? I know the QB position isn't everything, obviously, but 71st nationally?
Welcome to Iowa FB when you want to start comparing draft results to on-field results.
We us thorson as a single threat. Almost never bootleg or do much of anything with him except in the redzone. We know when his number is called that he is fairly good running the ball if he doesnt have an option. His red zone running has been extremely positive.
Yes, and if the QB can't run it properly don't call it effing 10 times in a row expecting different results. That's something even a HS coach wouldn't do.
Actually, if you watch the Stanford game, he was executing the option correctly. So don't know how his odd regression to not executing it properly is 100% on the ooaches. Probably something that can easily be fixed, though.
