Badger fans, I apologize
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I generally throw bottles of wee at opposing teams...that is my tradition.
Fitz seemed to think that was the rule though. Said he would have challenged it if the refs hadn't of called it back.
Then why do we do the same exact thing ALL THE TIME? Someone needs to explain this to me. If I'm wrong I will apologize for my apology.
We have never done that signal and then tried to return the ball, what games are you watching????
Perhaps you aren't old enough to remember an excruciatingly hometown ref jobbing of NU in Hawaii in 2004.
My understanding is that signal is a sign to his own teammates to "get away" so that the bouncing ball doesn't hit them in the back causing a fumble. I didn't believe it had anything whatsoever to do with a fair catch.
I guess you know more than the officials, the coaches, and the TV announcers. Wow. I'm impressed.
You might have missed this explanation:
There is nothing wrong with that signal but the illegal part is doing that invalid signal and the returning the ball. Of course players do that signal all the time but have you ever see one do it then try to return the punt? That's the illegal part
Google search ...
A catch after an invalid signal is not a fair catch, and the ball is dead where caught or recovered. If the signal follows a catch or recovery, the ball is dead when the signal is first given (A.R. 6-5-1-I).
ETA: yea what mike periara says above is what I am saying.
Just entered? Thought he was a charter member...
It is, but you're also not allowed to make arm waving motions other than for a fair catch. Normally it doesn't matter, but normally a return man doesn't wave his arms, pick up the ball, and start running.
Yes, this year a Penn State punt returner clearly raised his arm to signal a fair catch and the NU gunners pulled up, but the returner advanced the ball.
Notice that it was not a penalty. They weren't saying he made a fair catch signal and then started running with it. Instead, he made a signal that you are not allowed to make if you are then to return the ball.
Exactly right...Long was in position to drill the returner and clearly pulled up...it's as clear as day. I give the refs credit for making the right call in a hostile environment.
I would say that differently. We weren't hurt by the refs. They called pretty much a good game. Unbelievable ending.
Bingo, and it totally confused our players. DocCatsFan must be drunk or blind, I have no idea what he is talking about.
Normally the wave off signal is a sign that EVERYONE on the return team is to get away from the ball, including the returner. It's followed by the kicking team watching it roll as far as possible before touching it.
I think we're all thrown off a bit because we never see it as it played out. But it was the correct call.
I think we're all thrown off a bit because we never see it as it played out. But it was the correct call.
The Wisc punt returner moved towards the ball, fielded it and advanced the ball. The penalty would not have been called if he either moved away from the ball or just covered it. Later in the game he did the same motion but moved away from the ball. No penalty.
BTW did you note the illegal motion on Wisc near the end of the game. You cannot move towards the LOS and take a snap without being set. Not called on them.
Looked at both plays and I understand why the calls were made. Generally those calls would not be made but the calls were technically correct.
On the punt return, Erickson's actions (waving) were looked at as trying to call a fair catch and being a little deceptive. Not the usual call but technically correct. The call in the end zone is that with a catch in the end zone, the person must totally complete the process (in this case, all the way to the ground) . He did not. Again technically correct. Generally not something that would overturn a call.
Wisconsin has a beef (or two) but again, the refs were technically correct on both calls.
10 second run off because the clock was not stopped and the game would have been over.
By the way, I completely agree with people regarding the last plays of the game. Clearly there was illegal procedure on WI.
We all wished it had been easier---but apologizing to the opponents fans is ridiculous. In my opinion. By the way, I think the call on the TD pass has been confirmed as correct. Didn't it happen to us earlier in the year with a C. Jones TD catch? I enjoy your posts and input; but, this isn't your finest hour.
-21 yards rushings, giving up six sacks, five turnovers. Hell, Wisconsin should have apologized if they'd WON that game.
Will you stop Doc, please. Our defense abused them all game long. Our offense stunk up the joint but we didn't turn the ball over! We won the game fair and square, what the heck are you apologizing to their fans for?
I think someone is looking for the worst post of the year. A win is a win and a loss is a loss. NU earned this victory and owe no one an apology.
What a disgraceful post. Our kids fight like hell on the road to win somewhere they haven't since 2000 and your first impulse is to apologize to the OTHER TEAM'S FANS for a CORRECT CALL by the refs??? That's honestly disgraceful to our kids.
Your understanding is wrong, according to Mike Pereira who I'm going to consider a better rules source than you are.
