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Big update: Northwestern’s lawyers have FINALLY subpoenaed me in the hazing lawsuit. My lawyers and I are pumped up to speak the Truth

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The hazing in Evanston was not limited to the football program. Fitz deserved to be fired with cause. Sexual predation has been prevalent at NU for decades: the football program’s abuse was both a symptom and a cause.

What would surprise most posters? While the people on this message board persist in demonizing the Truth.. NUFB players of all types are on my side.

Including some Rose bowl 1995 alumni!

Fitz’s shitty lawyers had better brace themselves.
I have been highly suspicious of the “hazing” claims purely because of the lack of publicly available evidence and the inconsistencies in behavior by NU in response to “hazing.”

I am not “demonizing the truth” but attempting to discern it. If your efforts can contribute to our understanding what has actually transpired, I wholeheartedly support them.

Let’s see the evidence!
 
Fitz was the heart of recruiting and in his second year on staff (first as LB coach) in 2002.

He was in the locker room at various points, was a big talker, and saw the head shavings. He didn’t care. He just wanted to get the best recruits he could, a la Barnett.
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Well, when it comes to NU and the alleged behavior in the football program...

NU led with... "It was really, really bad" and they claimed they had no other moral choice but to fire Fitzgerald, who may not have known, but "should have."
And then they followed with "It really wasn't that bad" and no alleged perpetrator was punished or even named.

People, judges and juries can see the contradiction without trying - and it looks entirely like NU was trying to weasel out of a contract.
yeah, this is what I have been saying. “This is a huge scandal and Fitz must be fired immediately.” Then followed up with absolutely nothing. If it was so bad, then how is it addressed by only firing the HC?
 
I have been highly suspicious of the “hazing” claims purely because of the lack of publicly available evidence and the inconsistencies in behavior by NU in response to “hazing.”

I am not “demonizing the truth” but attempting to discern it. If your efforts can contribute to our understanding what has actually transpired, I wholeheartedly support them.

Let’s see the evidence!
That is fair.

There was an article - I think from The Atlantic” - from when the news broke. It was pretty comprehensive and accurate- my old teammates Rico “Lamitte” Tarver and others were interviewed.

Northwestern’s culture is not the same as what it was during older generations. Money and false prestige ruined it - which is fine - but the culture of sexual predation, including that creepy professor story from a few years ago, lives on.

I plan to help Northwestern nip it in the bud once and for all. The football program will be fine.

They won’t beat OSU anytime soon… but NUFB is fine under Braun & crew.
 
What specifically are you even claiming? Unlike other allegations, everything here is so vague.
I have outlined a lot of what happened on here and on the Rock. A quick recap of some:
  • A cross was shaved in my head during the stupid headshaving ridicule. At the time I was somewhere between an agnostic and an atheist (I’m good with my Christian faith now), but it was a humiliating experience. All of the coaches were aware
  • The sexualized hazing (AKA “carwashing”) was definitely a thing that made me hate NU for a while and quit football after the season. My parents and high school coach were shocked and disappointed because I likely would have earned a scholarship as a PWO. I wish I had gone to Bucknell or another school in retrospect
  • At one point, the lead hazer of my class (RIP) brought a hose into the shower and sprayed the freshman after practice. It was much worse than it sounds. I still lock my bathroom door when I shower now and I’m an independent father & businessman in my 40s
  • Other stuff happened in the showers; I squared up at one point, to fight off the main dude
  • Fights happened all the time. Once I got “Scout Team Player of the Week”, the hazing stopped - the coaches wanted to keep me. It was a miserable experience
  • Fitz, Walker, all the coaches knew - the AD ignored it. But there were quite a few ugly stories
  • I quit the football team the same day as my friend “Canadian Clifton” Dawson. He transferred to Harvard and became their leading rusher; lots of freshmen quit back then. Walker hated the hazing but didn’t know what to do (RIP)
  • One player who got kicked off the team savagely beat up his girlfriend- another athlete in 2006 or so. The player, a white linebacker under Fitz, got away scotfree and was up to other really bad (illegal stuff)
More to come.

Fitz should have admitted guilt, acted like a man, and gone away quietly.

I look forward to my day in court and can prove my allegations. I have some evidence and lots of folks to back up my claims from well before the news broke.

NUFB is fine now. Northwestern is still a mess due to a Lack Of Leadership and shame.
 
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yeah, this is what I have been saying. “This is a huge scandal and Fitz must be fired immediately.” Then followed up with absolutely nothing. If it was so bad, then how is it addressed by only firing the HC?
Northwestern was playing CYA and had to fire him. He ignored a culture of sexualized abuse. He had to go.

For the record: I’ve forgiven the hazers. 90% of the guys I played with were incredible guys and many are still friends. And the younger guys are great too.

I’m furious with Fitzgerald, Phillips, Schill, and the so called Board of Trustees.

Especially since Fitz allegedly was able to stop the hazing in 2008 for a bit or so. God only knows why or how it came back.
 
Jeff’s testimony will never see the light of day in court. BTW, Ricky Henderson is still alive right? If he wasn’t, I would think he was reincarnated in Jeff.
I love Rickey! But I have been sharing what happened here and with others because most football programs don’t do that stuff.

I am sharing it here because our fans need to be educated. The Big Ten Conference needs to address its schools like NU that foster or enable sexualized hazing & predation.

I will be at peace once I give my disposition.

It is cathartic for one’s soul to speak The Truth…
 
Well, when it comes to NU and the alleged behavior in the football program...

NU led with... "It was really, really bad" and they claimed they had no other moral choice but to fire Fitzgerald, who may not have known, but "should have."
And then they followed with "It really wasn't that bad" and no alleged perpetrator was punished or even named.

People, judges and juries can see the contradiction without trying - and it looks entirely like NU was trying to weasel out of a contract.
In the past, not so sure. Fraternities? "All in the name of brotherhood."
 
I have outlined a lot of what happened on here and on the Rock. A quick recap of some:
  • A cross was shaved in my head during the stupid headshaving ridicule. At the time I was somewhere between an agnostic and an atheist (I’m good with my Christian faith now), but it was a humiliating experience. All of the coaches were aware
  • The sexualized hazing (AKA “carwashing”) was definitely a thing that made me hate NU for a while and quit football after the season. My parents and high school coach were shocked and disappointed because I likely would have earned a scholarship as a PWO. I wish I had gone to Bucknell or another school in retrospect
  • At one point, the lead hazer of my class (RIP) brought a hose into the shower and sprayed the freshman after practice. It was much worse than it sounds. I still lock my bathroom door when I shower now and I’m an independent father & businessman in my 40s
  • Other stuff happened in the showers; I squared up at one point, to fight off the main dude
  • Fights happened all the time. Once I got “Scout Team Player of the Week”, the hazing stopped - the coaches wanted to keep me. It was a miserable experience
  • Fitz, Walker, all the coaches knew - the AD ignored it. But there were quite a few ugly stories
  • I quit the football team the same day as my friend “Canadian Clifton” Dawson. He transferred to Harvard and became their leading rusher; lots of freshmen quit back then. Walker hated the hazing but didn’t know what to do (RIP)
  • One player who got kicked off the team savagely beat up his girlfriend- another athlete in 2006 or so. The player, a white linebacker under Fitz, got away scotfree and was up to other really bad (illegal stuff)
More to come.

Fitz should have admitted guilt, acted like a man, and gone away quietly.

I look forward to my day in court and can prove my allegations. I have some evidence and lots of folks to back up my claims from well before the news broke.

NUFB is fine now. Northwestern is still a mess due to a Lack Of Leadership and shame.
Wow, all that happened and yet you continuously posted on this site about what a big fan of NU football you were and how you would try to get to games and GO CATS!! and I love our team etc etc etc.

And then the allegations came out and suddenly you can’t stand the program, the University is evil etc etc etc.
 
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I have outlined a lot of what happened on here and on the Rock. A quick recap of some:
  • A cross was shaved in my head during the stupid headshaving ridicule. At the time I was somewhere between an agnostic and an atheist (I’m good with my Christian faith now), but it was a humiliating experience. All of the coaches were aware
  • The sexualized hazing (AKA “carwashing”) was definitely a thing that made me hate NU for a while and quit football after the season. My parents and high school coach were shocked and disappointed because I likely would have earned a scholarship as a PWO. I wish I had gone to Bucknell or another school in retrospect
  • At one point, the lead hazer of my class (RIP) brought a hose into the shower and sprayed the freshman after practice. It was much worse than it sounds. I still lock my bathroom door when I shower now and I’m an independent father & businessman in my 40s
  • Other stuff happened in the showers; I squared up at one point, to fight off the main dude
  • Fights happened all the time. Once I got “Scout Team Player of the Week”, the hazing stopped - the coaches wanted to keep me. It was a miserable experience
  • Fitz, Walker, all the coaches knew - the AD ignored it. But there were quite a few ugly stories
  • I quit the football team the same day as my friend “Canadian Clifton” Dawson. He transferred to Harvard and became their leading rusher; lots of freshmen quit back then. Walker hated the hazing but didn’t know what to do (RIP)
  • One player who got kicked off the team savagely beat up his girlfriend- another athlete in 2006 or so. The player, a white linebacker under Fitz, got away scotfree and was up to other really bad (illegal stuff)
More to come.

Fitz should have admitted guilt, acted like a man, and gone away quietly.

I look forward to my day in court and can prove my allegations. I have some evidence and lots of folks to back up my claims from well before the news broke.

NUFB is fine now. Northwestern is still a mess due to a Lack Of Leadership and shame.
Did they shave the cross specifically because you weren’t a Christian? Did you have a choice on whether you wanted your head shaved?

What happened in the showers that caused you to square up?

Who on the staff was aware that this happened to you? Did you tell anyone at the time that can corroborate now?
 
Wow, all that happened and yet you continuously posted on this site about what a big fan of NU football you were and how you would try to get to games and GO CATS!! and I love our team etc etc etc.

And then the allegations came out and suddenly you can’t stand the program, the University is evil etc etc etc.
I thought the hazing ended when Fitz took over - and it allegedly did for a bit (2008). Now? 🤮
 
For years, NU boasted a clean football program. Huh.
It was always 90-95% clean. But the 5-10% (hazing and Fitz’s bullying) was ugly. I’m confident that Braun has cleaned it up. But Schill & the BoT need to fix the entire campus.

Northwestern as a culture seems to enable sexual predation. Vanderbilt does too from what little I know of them.

Again: Fitz’s lawsuit is lingering. The players like me have nothing to hide.
 
It was always 90-95% clean. But the 5-10% (hazing and Fitz’s bullying) was ugly. I’m confident that Braun has cleaned it up. But Schill & the BoT need to fix the entire campus.

Northwestern as a culture seems to enable sexual predation. Vanderbilt does too from what little I know of them.

Again: Fitz’s lawsuit is lingering. The players like me have nothing to hide.
That's a damning statement, I wonder what others have experienced.
 
Did they shave the cross specifically because you weren’t a Christian? Did you have a choice on whether you wanted your head shaved?

What happened in the showers that caused you to square up?

Who on the staff was aware that this happened to you? Did you tell anyone at the time that can corroborate now?
In retrospect, I was too outspoken in general as a freshman and a bit of a know it all (the years have humbled me). The cross was an odd choice- and something I noted as just one example of how degrading it could be. By and large the guys on the team were great dudes. I was raised Catholic, didn’t like it, and am a nondenominational Christian (I may convert to Presbyterianism).

There was no choice given - except I remember Loren Howard got the option of a “clean” head shaving because he was a starter, a huge recruit… and a nasty fighter (he had a nice long head of hair before). It was basically like an assembly line of humiliation. I feel worse for my black teammates who had their heads shaved after growing long dreadlocks.

Pat Durr hated the practice. He was a captain and a leader. He took pity and quickly shaved the humiliating haircuts (everyone got an ugly one except for LoHo).

I was grabbed at one point aside from the carwashing and prepared to fight. The shower stuff stopped after that (except for the occasional hosing).

Every coach knew about the haircuts - they saw my cross. We were given ugly trucker hats to wear around Kenosha until Pat Durr thankfully gave us clean cuts.

When I quit the team, I regret not telling Patton the hazing - particularly the shower stuff - led to it. Patton was a good coach and father; I don’t think he knew how weird it got in the showers but Walker was definitely aware of the carwashing (and disgusted by it).

The carwashing stuff didn’t happen at Miami (Ohio) and North Carolina. Walker was in a tough spot. And the program was splintered because of Rashidi Wheeler’s tragic death (RIP). His locker was a shrine that could not be touched in the locker room.

The team needed offensive linemen and talent. Coach Patton and Walk didn’t want to lose the players - but their only option was kicking a bunch of older players off the team, including starters (which would never happen in the Big Ten).

In retrospect? If I had gotten counseling and told Patton & Walker that I was quitting because of the hazing… I wonder if things would have been different. Probably not. Lots of guys quit and the team & recruiting struggled.

I thought until the news broke that this was all normal. It wasn’t (my close friends who played college football at other programs where shocked and appalled). Now, NU needs to fix it. My asks of them are not to make me money. I want them to fix the culture entirely.
 
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That's a damning statement, I wonder what others have experienced.
Other programs were hard hit by hazing too. Some were not.

The baseball team seemed normal; I didn’t know @lunker35, but most of the guys there, on the basketball and wrestling squads seemed “normal”.

The swimmers? No comment…
 
Wow, all that happened and yet you continuously posted on this site about what a big fan of NU football you were and how you would try to get to games and GO CATS!! and I love our team etc etc etc.

And then the allegations came out and suddenly you can’t stand the program, the University is evil etc etc etc.
This dude is an absolute freak show and just loves the attention. People need to stop engaging with this head case. He obviously needs professional help but is instead posting his bullshit drivel on a message board. Ban this idiot once and for all, @lou v. I thought you were supposed to be a moderator?
 
I have outlined a lot of what happened on here and on the Rock. A quick recap of some:
  • A cross was shaved in my head during the stupid headshaving ridicule. At the time I was somewhere between an agnostic and an atheist (I’m good with my Christian faith now), but it was a humiliating experience. All of the coaches were aware
  • The sexualized hazing (AKA “carwashing”) was definitely a thing that made me hate NU for a while and quit football after the season. My parents and high school coach were shocked and disappointed because I likely would have earned a scholarship as a PWO. I wish I had gone to Bucknell or another school in retrospect
  • At one point, the lead hazer of my class (RIP) brought a hose into the shower and sprayed the freshman after practice. It was much worse than it sounds. I still lock my bathroom door when I shower now and I’m an independent father & businessman in my 40s
  • Other stuff happened in the showers; I squared up at one point, to fight off the main dude
  • Fights happened all the time. Once I got “Scout Team Player of the Week”, the hazing stopped - the coaches wanted to keep me. It was a miserable experience
  • Fitz, Walker, all the coaches knew - the AD ignored it. But there were quite a few ugly stories
  • I quit the football team the same day as my friend “Canadian Clifton” Dawson. He transferred to Harvard and became their leading rusher; lots of freshmen quit back then. Walker hated the hazing but didn’t know what to do (RIP)
  • One player who got kicked off the team savagely beat up his girlfriend- another athlete in 2006 or so. The player, a white linebacker under Fitz, got away scotfree and was up to other really bad (illegal stuff)
More to come.

Fitz should have admitted guilt, acted like a man, and gone away quietly.

I look forward to my day in court and can prove my allegations. I have some evidence and lots of folks to back up my claims from well before the news broke.

NUFB is fine now. Northwestern is still a mess due to a Lack Of Leadership and shame.
I who the linebacker might be. I wonder if he was a guy out of Florida. If so, this was back in the day when I was back on campus at Northwestern pursuing his second-degree and hanging out with a few other players. And they say that he was involved in a lot of illegal stuff. This is understatement.
 
I who the linebacker might be. I wonder if he was a guy out of Florida. If so, this was back in the day when I was back on campus at Northwestern pursuing his second-degree and hanging out with a few other players. And they say that he was involved in a lot of illegal stuff. This is understatement.
If it is during that period, it would explain why a potential NFL level offensive lineman never actually matured. He hung around the same crowd and seemed to have a variety of mental issues. We often thought he was simply soft, but perhaps was born to it.
 
Northwestern was playing CYA and had to fire him. He ignored a culture of sexualized abuse. He had to go.

For the record: I’ve forgiven the hazers. 90% of the guys I played with were incredible guys and many are still friends. And the younger guys are great too.

I’m furious with Fitzgerald, Phillips, Schill, and the so called Board of Trustees.

Especially since Fitz allegedly was able to stop the hazing in 2008 for a bit or so. God only knows why or how it came back.
For those questioning the validity of this thread, it raises a new interesting legal perspective. Fitz is defending himself by claiming a lack of knowledge. If the history of this hazing goes back to his playing days and or his days as an assistant coach and show that he was aware of the hazing at that time then it would make it much less credible for him to claim a lack of knowledge when he took the position of head coach.
 
For those questioning the validity of this thread, it raises a new interesting legal perspective. Fitz is defending himself by claiming a lack of knowledge. If the history of this hazing goes back to his playing days and or his days as an assistant coach and show that he was aware of the hazing at that time then it would make it much less credible for him to claim a lack of knowledge when he took the position of head coach.
And, irrespective of whether you believe his claims, a former player and frequent poster on this board is giving a deposition related to a major lawsuit against our former coach and program.

That’s newsworthy, let alone thread-worthy
 
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